[Spoilers] XY Capture/Evolution/Release Thread

[Rayheart]

Skrelp's episode went under the radar, chances of them giving it a second chance outside of trainer ownership isn't very high.

Ash's old Pokemon coming back have the lowest chance of happening while the main story progresses. In the after story filler is the best chance for Ash to use older Pokemon.

Charizard has been coming and going in many seasons. I cant see anything wrong with old pokemon coming back since some of them has Mega evolutions which came with the new X and Y.

 

[Xander Olivieri]

Charizard has been coming and going in many seasons. I cant see anything wrong with old pokemon coming back since some of them has Mega evolutions which came with the new X and Y.

Charizard left in Johto officially. He didn't return until the Battle Frontier which was a Filler arc between Hoenn and Sinnoh. The Main stories are while Ash collects his badges and enters the tournament at the end. Everything between each set is a filler. After Charizard left in Johto it wasn't part of the main story for any other main series. It only came back after the story for that region had finished and the fillers started.

Ash isn't likely to see any of his old Pokemon until the post story filler to bridge the gap between main generation regions.

 

[Rayheart]

Charizard left in Johto officially. He didn't return until the Battle Frontier which was a Filler arc between Hoenn and Sinnoh. The Main stories are while Ash collects his badges and enters the tournament at the end. Everything between each set is a filler. After Charizard left in Johto it wasn't part of the main story for any other main series. It only came back after the story for that region had finished and the fillers started.

Ash isn't likely to see any of his old Pokemon until the post story filler to bridge the gap between main generation regions.

Well, we will see anyway. We know he swaps his new pokes to old pokes in the leagues tho.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

It is possible that he may use older pokemon during the league and evolve one or two.

The writers do have a habit of giving Ash a pokemon that can counter the Gym Leaders pokemon event if Pikachu finishes it up. There is a Fairy type and a Psychic type gym, so it would be ideal to give him something to counter both of those pokemon. The perfect candidate for that is Honedge. Because it is a Ghost/Steel type. That would also give him another counter for the Ice gym.

 

[Xander Olivieri]

Well, we will see anyway. We know he swaps his new pokes to old pokes in the leagues tho.

The only one I didn't watch in its entirety was Sinnoh so I assume that's the only one this has ever happened in. Otherwise I don't know what main story tournament this has ever been done in. Ash has only ever called in Pokemon that he didn't freshly catch in that arc's story tournament in filler tournaments.

It is possible that he may use older pokemon during the league and evolve one or two.

The writers do have a habit of giving Ash a pokemon that can counter the Gym Leaders pokemon event if Pikachu finishes it up. There is a Fairy type and a Psychic type gym, so it would be ideal to give him something to counter both of those pokemon. The perfect candidate for that is Honedge. Because it is a Ghost/Steel type. That would also give him another counter for the Ice gym.

Ash doesn't always have a type counter for every gym he goes against. He didn't have any Dark types to face off against Fantina. Instead he invented a new attack just to beat her. They don't have to give Ash anything for the Fairy Gym seeing as he only has one Pokemon weak to her, not that that would mean he wouldn't use the weak Pokemon as the main attacker.

Same with the Psychic Gym. He could just over power them with sheer force or crazy tactics.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

I never said he had one every time, and Fontina was the prime example of that. It was just a thought. Not to mention contests were still in play and he was inspired by Dawn. And if I am not mistaken, wasn't her gym judged partly as a contest as well? Anyways, that is off topic.

And yes, it was Sinnoh he changed his pokemon in, Cyndaquil even evolved right before he used him. I think the only time he used his team that was fully caught in Sinnoh was for the battle against Paul.

 

[Rayheart]

The only one I didn't watch in its entirety was Sinnoh so I assume that's the only one this has ever happened in. Otherwise I don't know what main story tournament this has ever been done in. Ash has only ever called in Pokemon that he didn't freshly catch in that arc's story tournament in filler tournaments.



Ash doesn't always have a type counter for every gym he goes against. He didn't have any Dark types to face off against Fantina. Instead he invented a new attack just to beat her. They don't have to give Ash anything for the Fairy Gym seeing as he only has one Pokemon weak to her, not that that would mean he wouldn't use the weak Pokemon as the main attacker.

Same with the Psychic Gym. He could just over power them with sheer force or crazy tactics.

Looks like you didnt watch them at all ... Because he got his old pokes back in Johto,Hoenn,Sinnoh,Unova, he didnt use them all in only Filler Episodes..

Sorry for the double i thought i was editing ...

 

[Lizardo]

The only one I didn't watch in its entirety was Sinnoh so I assume that's the only one this has ever happened in. Otherwise I don't know what main story tournament this has ever been done in. Ash has only ever called in Pokemon that he didn't freshly catch in that arc's story tournament in filler tournaments.

Satoshi also called back older Pokémon like Lizardon in the Jouto League.

Whether or not Satoshi will bring back older Pokémon in a League largely seems to depend on when it takes place. If there's a filler arc after the main journey through the region (Houen, Isshu), Satoshi brings back his older Pokémon there. If not (Jouto, Sinnoh) then we see him call them back during the League itself. So if the Kalos League takes place at the end of XY and not during the middle of it, he'll probably use his reserve Pokémon there as well.

 

[alisaie]

Johto and Sinnoh were also the "even/longer" series. So if the trend continues it might be the same deal and it will be at the end. Of course, every time we try to pin point a pattern they like to break them so in the end we'll just see when the time comes. However, just because old Pokemon come back doesn't mean a mega-evolution because he would have to get the keystone and the megastone. Not saying it's impossible because someone like Professor Sycamore can give him one or something it's not something we can easily speculate will happen until later.

 

[Famon]

Well , Its official that Fletchinder will not evolve any further .
If Ash catchs a Skkido then it will not evolve ether for Remo & Alexa's Gogoat .
Plus Catching Skkido mean no more Meowstic for Ash because I don't think Ash will get 3 gym-leader Pokemon .
So it all come down to the fifth and final Pokemon Ash catchs in Kalo ! It might be an Aegislesh or Tyrunt , Who know !

 

[Jonkane]

Well , Its official that Fletchinder will not evolve any further .

How did you find that out?

Also while everyone is stating that Ash will get a Mega Charizard what about his Heracross and Sceptile and with OR/AS it would be a good time to show off the new mega starters.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

How did you find that out?

Also while everyone is stating that Ash will get a Mega Charizard what about his Heracross and Sceptile and with OR/AS it would be a good time to show off the new mega starters.

I can see Mega Sceptile, but I just don't think Ash has that strong of a bond with Heracross, I mean he has a strong bond, but not as strong as Charizard, Pikachu, and Sceptile. To me those are his top three pokemon he currently has that he has the strongest bond with.


Also, I know some people say he can't catch a pokemon and just simply let it mega evolve. However, in Sinnoh, Brock caught Croagunk and he had the strongest bond possible. Even stronger than Pikachu and Ash. It is possible that Ash might catch one in a similar matter, but I don't know. It would be hard to beat the bond he has with the three I mentioned above.


As for the Flechider thing, Famon pointed out a while ago that any time a pokemon beats its evolution, it will never evolve past that stage. And although he is right to my knowledge, we can't count it out that it will not evolve, because Talonflame was pretty tired. And to be honest, I like Flechider over Talonflame anyways in the anime design.

We also can't count out that he may not only catch 5 new pokemon. The past to generations he has caught more that 5, not including Pikachu. Unova he caught 9 and Sinnoh he caught 6 and evolved 1 older pokemon. Hoenn is the only region he has caught only 5 I believe, but this season is playing out a lot like Hoenn. And even in Hoenn, if you count Aipom, that is 6 there as well.

 

[Videreludus]

Buizel , Sceptile & Froakie isn't comic relief ether , They are also serious Pokemon.
They all fight with honor !
However If I have descried Snivy , Then she would be a cool Tsundere Onee-same type.
And If You see Meowstic (F) in a Poke-amie then it will surely remind you off Snivy .
Also , Totodile is a more like a Chidi T-rex .
Also , Goodra remind me off ''Barney the Dinosaur'' !

Totodile is more like a chibi Crokodile it actually doesn't look like a T-rex at all to me.

Snivy was to be the tough one in Ash's Unova team. The one with the most honor, Just like Sceptile, Buizel and Charizard. Ash has Hawlucha for that, no need for a second one.

Also Froakie is more clumsy than the other two, so it isn't so comparable.

Well , Its official that Fletchinder will not evolve any further .
If Ash catchs a Skkido then it will not evolve ether for Remo & Alexa's Gogoat .
Plus Catching Skkido mean no more Meowstic for Ash because I don't think Ash will get 3 gym-leader Pokemon .
So it all come down to the fifth and final Pokemon Ash catchs in Kalo ! It might be an Aegislesh or Tyrunt , Who know !

You can't say that it is offical that Fletchinder will not evolve just because it defeated it's evolution.

Just because the sun until today always rised, you still can't be 100% sure that it will rise tomorrow.

 

[Famon]

Currently Ash should have this type of Pokemon-

--Kuudere Meowstic : A meowstic that tries to be emotionless But sometime has a Outburst of Emotion.

--Naughty Gourgeist : A Mischievous Pokemon that love to have fun. It played various prank on Ash & co until Ash realize that it just want to play with them So he play with it .
Later , It joined Ash's Team and still do naughty thing for fun.

--Taking Aegislesh : A Pokemon that Curious about Human and telepathically talk to Ash.
It started to follow Ash after being attracted to his inmate Leadership quality.
It Personality is same as Whisper (Youkai Watch) or Ruby (Fate/Kaleid liner Prisma).
It has a Love & Hate relationship Ash due to its ability to talk.
Ash , Pikachu & Aegislesh create their own personal world where they discuss about others.

The Anime need this type of Pokemon to attract Kids , Not some cute mascot like Oshowott.

Totodile is more like a chibi Crokodile it actually doesn't look like a T-rex at all to me.

Crokodile are quadruped , Totodile is bipedal .
However the bottom line is , Totodile , Charmender , Treeko , Gible etc based on a Bipedal lizard close to resembling a T-rex or Gobzila.

Snivy was to be the tough one in Ash's Unova team. The one with the most honor, Just like Sceptile, Buizel and Charizard. Ash has Hawlucha for that, no need for a second one.

Also Froakie is more clumsy than the other two, so it isn't so comparable.

With Froakie , Ash didn't even need to catch Hawlucha ! It feel like Ash caught 2 pokemon based on same stereotype .
FYI : Froakie is one fight seriously and Honorably. Hawlucha just loves to show off its moves which mean attacking a Machamp off guard for no good reason.
Froakie is Clumsy ? For what ? For Smiling more ?
Even Charizard , Snivy & Buizel started to smile and Friendly , That doesn't make Froakie Friendly .

You can't say that it is offical that Fletchinder will not evolve just because it defeated it's evolution.

Just because the sun until today always rised, you still can't be 100% sure that it will rise tomorrow.

Oh please , Writer made Ash inferior to a complete Rookie just because he's the first Rival Ash met during Unova So he had a PLOT AMOUR .
They could change the rule by making Trip lose to Ash early and bring a new main rival instate But they didn't.
A Pokemon beating its Evolution is like the Writer publicly announcing that this Pokemon already better then its evolution so it won't need to evolve any further.

 

[alisaie]

Crokodile are quadruped , Totodile is bipedal .
However the bottom line is , Totodile , Charmender , Treeko , Gible etc based on a Bipedal lizard close to resembling a T-rex or Gobzila.

By that logic Krookodile also isn't a Crocodile and well... ahahaha..... But no Totodile is clearly a small Crocodile. Reptiles and Dinosaurs have similarities, yes, but it doesn't deter the Pokemon from being based on the reptiles they are based on.

Also some Dinosaurs are recently being discovered to have feathers s o ahem.

That said I also believe you contridicted yourself? You say that hawlucha was pointless because it's the same but then you go and say he's different? At least that is the feeling I'm getting from that.

I'm one of those people who also won't mind if Fletchinder nevers evolves because I really like its design more than Talonflame. And hey they may just break the whole deal with Pokemon not evolving if they beat it's evolution because they've broken some other trends (or whatever) already.

Lastly they did make Trip lose to Ash earlier for a different rival named Cameron okay bye

Still personally rooting for Bergmite and then maybe Skiddo or something for his last two Kalos Pokemon (if he only goes for two more) ho hum.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

Skiddo is marketable because it is a small goat, and usually kids seem to like the goats in petting zoos ect. This is why I think Ash will catch it and it will probabaly be an abandoned one. Although I hope it evolves if he does catch it, I do not think it will do to whats her name having Gogoat along with a Gym Leader.

Meowstic is an ok pokemon. It is starting to become one of my more favorite pokemon and I do agree, it is marketable. But Ash has never caught a cat, I just do not think he will catch one, although I wouldn't mind.

I love the idea of Ageislash, but I don't think there would be a telepathical connection. I think it would just conflict with the idea of only 1 pokemon and legendaries talking and that is Meowth. I think this is the main reason Ralts was not caught, by Max, although he was still 'too young'.

 

[jfuze174]

I still think Froakie will evolve. I also kinda think it will start acting like Charmeleon and Charizard, just not as long as it did.

At the start, Froakie did not want to listen to Ash 100%. This emotion could intensify when it turns into Frogadier. And then completely go insane at Greninja because it is part dark.

As for Ash not evolving Froakie, I think he will. Because it is his only starter. When Hoenn and Sinnoh both have him evolving his starters completely. With Froakie being his only starter, he will be like Treecko. He also act similar to Treecko, and they are having a lot more fillers to expand on his pokemon. To me, Kalos is a combination between Hoenn and Sinnoh.

That would be awesome it not listening to ash because its turning into a dark type and ash needs to earn its respect

 

[Famon]

I wish Ash to have a ''Love & Hate'' Relationship with a Pokemon .
Basically a Pokemon who contently argue with Ash over small matter! Example-

-Stealing Ash's piece cake before he finish them.

-Waking Ash up by attacking him.

-Sometime refuse to obey him without being disobedient like Charizard

-Often pointing out Ash's flaw & Mistake.

-Getting angry at Ash for eating his pudding

-Often has fistfight with Ash ! Like this--

Basically stuff we do with our close friend.

 

[OliveCopper]

As opposed to giving a full team prediciton, I am gonna create a small prediction of what will happen.

For a start, Fletchling will never evolve at all. Therefore, Ash will have to catch a Fire-type to make up for this. However, no Fire-type Pokemon in the Kalos Region that Ash already has fits him pretty well... (Most possible catch is Litleo, despite the aforementioned comment...)

And it would make no sense for Froakie to not evolve. I mean, it's the only Kalos Starter Ash has (Chespin is Clemont's Pokémon). Froakie should break the curse that Kingler has defied. It should evolve into a Frogadier before the 18th movie, and into a Greninja after that, but before the 19th movie. (Same applies for Clemont's Chespin (evolve into Quilladin before movie 18, and Chesnaught before movie 19), as well as, the other starter Pokémon owned by another companion.)

And to cap off Fletchling never evolving, here's a rundown on the bird Pokemon.

-Pidgeotto was caught in EP003, no other Pidgeotto appeared earlier.
-It evolved into Pidgeot in EP081, no other Pidgeot appeared earlier.
-Noctowl was caught in EP154, no other Noctowl appeared earlier.
-Taillow was cauht in AG004, no other Taillow appeared earlier.
-It evolved into Swellow in AG080, no other Swellow appeared earlier.
-Starly evolved into Staravia in DP013, though a Staravia did make a cameo appearance in DP001, DP013 was the first real appearance of a Staravia.
-It evolves into Staraptor in DP118, other Staraptor appeared in Episodes like DP066 and DP101.
-Pidove evolved into Tranquill in BW022, another Tranquill appeared before then in BW010.
-It evolved into Unfezant in BW068, though another Unfezant did appear in BW067, that's just 1 episode before Tranquill's evolution into Unfezant.
-Fletchinder debuted in XY020, and Talonflame debuted 15-16 episodes later, both under the ownership of another Trainer.

 

[Perriechu]

I wish Ash to have a ''Love & Hate'' Relationship with a Pokemon .
Basically a Pokemon who contently argue with Ash over small matter! Example-

-Stealing Ash's piece cake before he finish them.

-Waking Ash up by attacking him.

-Sometime refuse to obey him without being disobedient like Charizard

-Often pointing out Ash's flaw & Mistake.

-Getting angry at Ash for eating his pudding

-Often has fistfight with Ash ! Like this--

Basically stuff we do with our close friend.

So basically you want another Pikachu?

For a start, Fletchling will never evolve at all.

...Did you miss the last few episodes or?

(((or have i completely missed s/t)))