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[Road]

1)Attack 70
Def 85
Sp Atk 115
Sp Def 81
Speed 116
Characteristic (often scatters things)
2}been years but i wanna say Gts

I need the HP too lol, that is also a stat. >w> Also what version are you viewing this on? "Often scatters things" is the format for older generations.

 

[Schultzkid92]

I need the HP too lol, that is also a stat. >w> Also what version are you viewing this on?

Lol Sorry i forgot that But it was transferred from Platinum to black 2 Hp 114

 

[Road]

Lol Sorry i forgot that But it was transferred from Platinum to black 2 Hp 114

Ah okay, that explains the formatting of the characteristic. Better to calculate it in the older calculator as well.

IVs are random (not even a 31 anywhere) so it's fine! Note that if it doesn't say "fateful encounter" in the summary then some trade sites won't accept it, but it's fine here.

 

[ChaserSun2717]

What are their IVs?

edited my post

 

[Schultzkid92]

Ah okay, that explains the formatting of the characteristic. Better to calculate it in the older calculator as well.

IVs are random (not even a 31 anywhere) so it's fine! Note that if it doesn't say "fateful encounter" in the summary then some trade sites won't accept it, but it's fine here.

doesn't say fateful encounter just Apparently arrived at Lv 40
(i just tried transporting it to the pokebank but it wouldn't accept it) out of the 9 Boxes of Pokemon he the only one who did not work

 

[Road]

doesn't say fateful encounter just Apparently arrived at Lv 40
(i just tried transporting it to the pokebank but it wouldn't accept it) out of the 6 Boxes of Pokemon he the only one who did not work

Hmm, it might be because it lacks the tag, but I have some that lack it and it made it through just fine so I'm not sure. Those without the tag were caught in DP, but the Member Card was never distributed to those games so the only way to get Darkrai is by glitching to the island. (We allow it as well as Shaymin because they're naturally in the game.)

Double-check to make sure it doesn't have any HMs or illegal moves. That's about all I can think of. @@ It might also just be a weird exception to the one Pokemon; Bank does that sometimes. If that's the case there's not much for it. :/

 

[Schultzkid92]

Hmm, it might be because it lacks the tag, but I have some that lack it and it made it through just fine so I'm not sure. Those without the tag were caught in DP, but the Member Card was never distributed to those games so the only way to get Darkrai is by glitching to the island. (We allow it as well as Shaymin because they're naturally in the game.)

Double-check to make sure it doesn't have any HMs or illegal moves. That's about all I can think of. @@ It might also just be a weird exception to the one Pokemon; Bank does that sometimes. If that's the case there's not much for it. :/

im no professional but i don't think Shadow Ball Hypnosis Dream Eater and nightmare are Illegal they all sound like legit moves he should know / can know Could it be the Pp count be cheated i know their pp up but isnt their a limit to each move? their all 24 while hypnosis is 32pp

 

[Haileo]

Darkrai
Nickname None
Shiny No
Ball: Master Ball
Lv 40
Ot Sayuri
ID 11536
Nature Timid
Ability Bad Dream
Game of Origin: Sinnoh (Say's Apparently Arrived at Lv40)

On a hack list I have, I see:

OT Sayuri/ID 11536/SID 15275 [Note: Shiny Pokemon only]

I have had a hacked 11536 Sayuri Shiny Staryu in the past. So yes, this Darkrai is hacked.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see this Darkrai wasn't shiny. Then I guess it's legit. Or semi-legit, whatever you want to call it as. The ID and OT combo comes from their Diamond game, and Darkrai wasn't released on Diamond.

 

[MetaWolfie]

just to make sure so I thought these guys need to be checked:

Moltres [Shiny] (JPN) // lv. 91 // Quick Ball
OT: ?-???
ID no: 33144
HP: 309
Atk: 219
Def: 227
Sp. Atk: 257
Sp. Def: 182
Speed: 204
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Heat Wave, U-Turn, Flame Charge, Sky Drop
Nature: Relaxed
"Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region."
Characteristic: Loves to eat.
note: also has Sinnoh Champion Ribbon when first time receiving this guy.
Also he only has two maxed evs on HP and Def.

Feraligatr // Lv. 31 // Normal Ball
OT: SquillZ
ID no.: 25292
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Crunch, Water Gun, Ice Punch, Dragon Dance
HP: 104
Atk: 81
Def: 76
Sp. Atk: 57
Sp. Def: 66
Speed: 70
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to trash about
notes: he came from an egg so I'm suspecting his parents are hacked pokemon bc all of his EVs are all maxed

that's all I thought needs to be checked. I might post more when needed ^^ also noteI that this is in Gen 6 (X)

 

[Road]

I need a hack check on 2 pokemon received in wondertrade/link trade

Magnemite
Nickname:: None
Shiny: Yes
Ball: Master Ball
Lvl: 10
OT: Brett (was received from OT in trade)
ID: 09104
Nature: Impish
Ability: Magnet Pull
Game of Origin: Unova (B,W/B2,W2)

Vaporeon
Nickname: Galaxy
Shiny: Yes
Ball: Timer Ball
lvl: 48
OT: JennyCc1258
ID: 936909
Nature: Naughty
Ability: Water Absorb
Game of Origin: Sun/Moon Route 4

ev trained:: Yes



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Chaser, I was sent to check these for you but those attachments don't work (which I guess was the IVs?) so I'll need them again. Not sure what Soaps said before but Magnemite might be okay, even if the IVs are high it's from 5th Gen where RNG was super easy, and the OT is familiar to me somehow. Vaporeon is more concerning.

im no professional but i don't think Shadow Ball Hypnosis Dream Eater and nightmare are Illegal they all sound like legit moves he should know / can know Could it be the Pp count be cheated i know their pp up but isnt their a limit to each move? their all 24 while hypnosis is 32pp

On a hack list I have, I see:

OT Sayuri/ID 11536/SID 15275 [Note: Shiny Pokemon only]

I have had a hacked 11536 Sayuri Shiny Staryu in the past. So yes, this Darkrai is hacked.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see this Darkrai wasn't shiny. Then I guess it's legit. Or semi-legit, whatever you want to call it as. The ID and OT combo comes from their Diamond game, and Darkrai wasn't released on Diamond.

Shadow Ball and Hypnosis would have had to be taught to it via TM (Dream Eater is a move later in the level up and Shadow Ball is TM only). It miiiight be caught moves but I can' find any data on what moves it has when it's caught, for some reason. @@ MAYBE try deleting those moves / MTing previous moves just to see if that's tripping it up for some reason. If it still doesn't go through, it might be an actual hack.
Also thanks for the info Hail! Seems like it may still be a hack since it won't go through Bank, so it's appreciated.

just to make sure so I thought these guys need to be checked:

Moltres [Shiny] (JPN) // lv. 91 // Quick Ball
OT: ?-???
ID no: 33144
HP: 309
Atk: 219
Def: 227
Sp. Atk: 257
Sp. Def: 182
Speed: 204
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Heat Wave, U-Turn, Flame Charge, Sky Drop
Nature: Relaxed
"Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region."
Characteristic: Loves to eat.
note: also has Sinnoh Champion Ribbon when first time receiving this guy.
Also he only has two maxed evs on HP and Def.

Feraligatr // Lv. 31 // Normal Ball
OT: SquillZ
ID no.: 25292
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Crunch, Water Gun, Ice Punch, Dragon Dance
HP: 104
Atk: 81
Def: 76
Sp. Atk: 57
Sp. Def: 66
Speed: 70
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to trash about
notes: he came from an egg so I'm suspecting his parents are hacked pokemon bc all of his EVs are all maxed

that's all I thought needs to be checked. I might post more when needed ^^ also noteI that this is in Gen 6 (X)

Thinking you mean IVs, not EVs.
Moltres looks fine, came from Platinum so could have been RNGed to be Shiny, but the IVs aren't amazing so I see no issue.
Fraligatr seems fine on the surface. 6IV is not actually impossible (Soaps could comment more on this) and since it's not Shiny it's not as suspicious. As it is, that OT and ID popped up in Google search (ironically on stuff from other hack checking threads across the net) and while all the other stuff was Shiny, they agreed it was all hacked, so I would think this might be the same. Wouldn't trade it around just to be safe.

Also, gonna page Soapyyy to add this OT to the blacklist just to be safe.

 

[Spyro]

Road, you're my hero <3

 

[MetaWolfie]

ahh thanks for checking up mine ! and yeah I meant IVs (gosh im being confused at that time :'D )

im glad that the moltres I have is legit, but the feraligatr I got makes me a bit suspicious about it, and even more is that the fact I got him as a totodile in WT when i'm giving away some pokemon I recently hatched

 

[Road]

ahh thanks for checking up mine ! and yeah I meant IVs (gosh im being confused at that time :'D )

im glad that the moltres I have is legit, but the feraligatr I got makes me a bit suspicious about it, and even more is that the fact I got him as a totodile in WT when i'm giving away some pokemon I recently hatched

Ehh, again, under normal circumstances I would say someone was just being generous and sent it out.Like I said it's not impossible. As it is, that OT is known to have hacked Pokemon, which is why I'm making the call of no-good. It could actually STILL be okay -- maybe the person bred it normally, or was even trying to MM a Shiny but this wasn't one so they sent it away -- but better safe than sorry.

 

[ChaserSun2717]

Chaser, I was sent to check these for you but those attachments don't work (which I guess was the IVs?) so I'll need them again. Not sure what Soaps said before but Magnemite might be okay, even if the IVs are high it's from 5th Gen where RNG was super easy, and the OT is familiar to me somehow. Vaporeon is more concerning.

 

[Road]

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Yeah those look fine. Magnemite was likely RNGed in the wild. The 4IV on Vaporeon matches what's possible for SOS calling.

 

[ChaserSun2717]

Yeah those look fine. Magnemite was likely RNGed in the wild. The 4IV on Vaporeon matches what's possible for SOS calling.

yay!

 

[Road]

Hiya everyone! I'm here with two big announcements!

QR Code Report (Moncolle GET and Ga Ole)
Yes friends, after 5849350 years, I have finally made my QR code report! / screams and throws confetti

The full report can be found in this doc here. It has explanations of what the figures are, what I've scanned, how I organized it, as well as conclusions and all that good stuff. I've provided either step-by-step pictures of the scans or videos (for Moncolle GET Charizard as well as Snorlax). I also wrote out the results for each one.

tl;dr version (AKA the Conclusions, to be added to Hack Check Guide):

1. Scanning a QR code from Moncolle GET figures or Ga Ole Disks DOES NOT bring up any sort of prompt to catch the Pokemon in the wild. Only Pokemon already available in the wild can be caught.
2. The benefits of scanning a QR code from these are:
- Receiving 20 points towards Island Scan. (The standard codes generated by the game via the Pokedex only give 10 points per scan.)
- Registering the Pokemon as ?seen? in your Dex if not already done, therefore letting you check the location to catch it. (This applies to ANY Pokemon available in the wild, whether through normal encounter or through SOS Calling.)
3. There are no added effects to the QR codes on Special Moncolle GET figures.

I'm still collecting the figures and disks, so I will continue to add scans as I do them, but this already has a lot of information, as well as the most important stuff for the Alola Starters and Charizard.

3rd Gen Events and the "Fateful Encounter" Flag
We had a discussion about this some time ago, but after a ton more discussion, HaxAras and I have FINALLY come to a conclusion:

Event Pokemon from 3rd Generation that have the "Fateful Encounter" flag are hacked.
Exceptions: Mew / Deoxys / Lugia / Ho-Oh, Pokemon from XD, later FRLG Events

HaxAras talked a lot with his buds that are part of the Gen III Events preservation project, and one of them did a test by checking a batch of 10ANNIV Pokemon from a ROM dump. He stated that NONE of them had this flag, and therefore any that do are hacks. (Messages here.) Furthermore, another user talked about the "Obedience Flag" in Gen III, introduced in FRLGE and XD, which when sent to higher gens appears as a "Fateful Encounter" flag. He explains it and mentions what they are supposed to be on.
Which FRLG Events have the flag is still unclear. According Haileo, PCNY Wish eggs fall under this category, but we're not sure about what else.

HaxAras believes that a looooong time ago, some hackers made a ton of 10th and other Events with the FE flag because they didn't know any better, and those got into circulation.


That's all! Hope this is helpful for some people. If you have any questions on the QR codes let me know. I think the Gen III events issue is pretty much finished, though if anyone knows what later events should have the flag that would be cool to add! Thank ye!

 

[sater10]

1. Scanning a QR code from Moncolle GET figures or Ga Ole Disks DOES NOT bring up any sort of prompt to catch the Pokemon in the wild. Only Pokemon already available in the wild can be caught.

i knew it. it's a little bit annoying when you tell them the truth but they still insist to believe their pokemon isn't hack.

 

[Road]

i knew it. it's a little bit annoying when you tell them the truth but they still insist to believe their pokemon isn't hack.

Ehh, the person who asked here was pretty nice about it. I didn't do this to be like "SEE YOU WERE WRONG HAHA", I did it to give us hard evidence. It's a tricky thing since these QR codes aren't available outside Japan, nor can a non-Japanese system use them, so it's better to be safe than sorry.

Also I really just wanna keep hacks outta circulation. I've been dealing with them for 10 years and I'm so, SO tired of them. Anything I can do to convince people not to trade them (at least under the guise that they're hacked) is good by me.

 

[sater10]

Ehh, the person who asked here was pretty nice about it. I didn't do this to be like "SEE YOU WERE WRONG HAHA", I did it to give us hard evidence. It's a tricky thing since these QR codes aren't available outside Japan, nor can a non-Japanese system use them, so it's better to be safe than sorry.

Also I really just wanna keep hacks outta circulation. I've been dealing with them for 10 years and I'm so, SO tired of them. Anything I can do to convince people not to trade them (at least under the guise that they're hacked) is good by me.

yeah, i was mentioning someone outside this community whom trading his Beast Ball Litten and claim it as "Event" Pokemon from Moncolle. anyway, your link seems neat and i like how you present it. nice job and thanks for your hard work providing the information.