you do realise that i have other things to do and i can only spend about 5 mins on here to see if anyone has vm or pm'd me, the only reason i joined this group was because i was asked by a friend if i could help out on some subjects and if anyone WANTS help they can take 10 mins of their time to ask me directly and i have my own groups to manage as well, i understand that you want this group to work but people have to do it on their own not have you learing over them going "update update update"