NarutoActor

When it comes to something like what is a healthy environment for a child to grow up in I think being a doctor of psychiatry does actually mean a bit more than Average Joe's opinion. Show me an article from a medical journal or something with the weight of the medical establishment.

That article I linked to came from a medical journal (American Academy of Pediatrics) and had at least a dozen names with MDs after them, meaning a bunch of professionals were involved in writing it. If you want the statistics there are a bunch of links at the end.

It's just that I find research which contradicts what you're showing me and it's from around the same time period. This is just one example, from 2002, which is a bit long and says, among many other things, that "No data have pointed to any risk to children as a result of growing up in a family with 1 or more gay parents."

That first one was just one person's opinion, and it didn't even give a name, so it hardly counts as proof of anything.

The second one is by someone who isn't a psychiatrist or another kind of doctor, the article is 8 years old, and the studies it references are all over 10 years old. Isn't there something a little more recent?

So is it just that paragraph?

oh oh y did u say capiticalistic is less then 3 in ur thngy i dont get it?

err yea, but the thread is for teh "battle script engine" which, i don't think supports that stuff.

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its a staff member's **** up ahahaha

Eh, nothing much. School is full of revising, due to upcoming exams. You?

Ah, long time, no talk. Remember me?

A little Pidgey told me you like talking politics. Where do you stand on the Health Care Bill/Law?

A week? Okay

There are no "normal" parents. Don't say that straight parents are normal and gay parents aren't.

Statistics actually show that children with gay parents do just as well as children with straight parents. I don't know where you got your statistics from, but your "3x better" is so ludicrously high (not to mention vague) that is has to be made up.

So you think that pretty much every single gay person in the world is lying when they say they didn't choose to be gay? That's even more unbelievable than your statistics.

And you're okay with it otherwise? What's harmful about adopting anyway?

No, that's why I said genetic makeup and/or environment. I'm not a geneticist. People still don't choose their sexual orientation. I'm sure you accept that straight people don't.

I don't believe in destiny. I was simplifying. When I say "born gay" I mean "with the genetic makeup that will result in a person becoming gay/bisexual/etc. when they hit puberty and/or prenatal or early childhood environmental influence that ends with the same result". Either case people don't choose it. Besides, it's not harmful like being a drunk is.

I guess you won't believe that there is room for anything but literal interpretations of your particular version of the bible. That's a pity. Your capacity for belief is otherwise astounding. If only you could believe people when they tell you they didn't choose to be gay.

I can't imagine Jesus of all people would care if a guy had long hair.

I'm gonna go back to what I said about mistranslations. A cursory glance at a few websites says that if those passages were meant to say 'homosexual' then they would have used the specific word for it, which they didn't. They used an ambiguous term that some English translations word as 'homosexual' and others as 'effeminate'.

These are Paul's and other people's words - not God's, not Jesus'. Show me where Jesus says it's wrong to be gay.

I think you meant a different passage. 1 Corinthians 11:15 says: "but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering."

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=215759

I'm supposed to show you this and stuff :(