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should hacked legal pokemon be allowed

toofruty

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    In my years of playing pokemon competitly ive never been able to seen the difference between a perfect ev and iv gengar breed and raised vs a perfect iv and ev gengar from pokedit. I would assume that the ev distrubution would be a little of but thats it? When i mean hacked pokemon i mean perfectly legal pokemon brought from a external device.
     

    HatedHero

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    I think as long as they are only hacked in terms of perfect IVs and maybe shinyness just to make yourself *** it shouldn't be a problem because you don't have an advantage against honest players. But you save a lot of time other players spend with breeding etc. so maybe many of them are offended by this :0
     

    L0RD G3NGAR

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    • Yeah, and they are if they are hacked right. As long as the Evs are not above 510 and the Ivs are not more than 31 in each stat, then there is absolutely nothing wrong. It just suck for the people who actually work hard (Like me lol).
     

    Sceptile14

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    I see absolutely nothing wrong with doing legal hacks. As long as you make it with legal ivs and evs it shouldn't be a problem. I do it because I've got no time to breed the Pokemon myself. All it does is speed up the process. You will still come out with the same result as you would with pokegen if you breed correctly, so why does it matter? I don't know why so many people don't think it should be allowed...
     
    Nah

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    Sceptile14 said:
    I see absolutely nothing wrong with doing legal hacks. As long as you make it with legal ivs and evs it shouldn't be a problem. I do it because I've got no time to breed the Pokemon myself. All it does is speed up the process. You will still come out with the same result as you would with pokegen if you breed correctly, so why does it matter? I don't know why so many people don't think it should be allowed...
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    My thoughts exactly (stupid25characterslimit).
     

    iTeruri

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    • I think the biggest problem is with things like Wish Chansey, wich are really hard to get legit (it was only given out in New York, I believe 8 years ago.) Hacking to get a legal Wish Chansey is still cheating, because you gain advantage over those without a legit Chansey.

    Also, I think hacking Pokémon that can't be bred should be considered cheating, such as legendaries. I still think RNG abuse is cheating, just like any other exploit in games.

    Cheating is fine when it's not used to gain advantage over other players, though. Cloning a Pokémon is technically cheating, but you won't gain any advantage in a battle by using a cloned Pokémon, so it's fine.
     
    Sabrewulf238

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    I don't mind personally as long as they don't give an unfair advantage in battle......as long as they're viable I wouldn't see much point in getting upset over it.

    Although I suppose it would be a bit annoying if the hacks were of something difficult to obtain, like an event move pokemon.....
     
    SaniOKh

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    • I don't know. On one hand, it would be hypocritical of me to talk down to hackers, considering the Pokémon I expect to move through to Gen 6 (AR-produced event exclusives, mostly to get their Pokédex entries) . On the other hand, it does suck for people who try to breed their Pokémon legitimately, because unless they spend ungodly amounts of time breeding for perfect IVs, some precise natures etc (I never battle online, so I'm not a specialist) , they'll be sure to be outclassed.

    Proceed with caution, I guess, and think about not ruining the experience for those who play 100% legitimately, because since they are the ones playing as Nintendo intended, they should get a good experience. As long as people do that, I don't mind.
     
    Shaussman

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    • Hacking in legitimate Pokemon is entirely fine. All you're doing is saving time that would otherwise be spent running in circles waiting for the RNG to bless you, not gaining any sort of advantage.
     
    Kikaito plush

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    • I don't think they should be allowed because it's unfair to battle pokemon with unfair stats and abilties that are not legit on that pokemon.
     
    BrandoSheriff

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    • I honestly don't mind as long as the stats and moveset are legit. I used to do this back in Gen 5, but have quit since then because of my moral complex. xD

    It just speeds up the process to get the Pokemon you want ready for battling. No nature breeding, egg move chain breeding, or IV breeding, just a few clicks here and there and you've got your Pokemon. The only Pokemon I mind being generated are legendaries with perfect stats and natures because of how ridiculously tough that is to do. I was lucky enough to catch Mewtwo in Y with Modest nature and perfect Sp.Atk and Speed IVs. That's fine with me. xD
     

    xrawrr

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    I think it kinda ruins the fun of trying to get that rare pokemon you've been trying for ages to get or that shiny when all you have to do is press a few buttons and there it is :(, also trading is pretty pointless with this feature also.
     

    NEOCHU

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    Codes to gain in-game event Pokemon are fine by me. I've missed tons of event Pokemon usually because I miss the event window due to having little time to play.

    Anything else shouldn't be allowed, even the IV modifiers. Unless of course you have no intention of playing online & competitively.

    GF have made EV's considerably easier to manage this gen so I don't see the need to mod those besides laziness. I never normally breed for IV's because for the most part I avoid online play unless battling a friend. Decided to give it a shot this gen though. I've used EV and IV modifiers before in previous gens, but I (until X&Y) have never played online and I wouldn't with a team I had modified and didn't 'earn' as such.

    If modifying a pokemon's IV's to get 31 across the board is acceptable, then GF may as well just set all wild pokemon to start with the highest IV's possible and hell why not make all the starting moves the top egg moves while they're at it! Wait! lets reduce shiny rates to 1 in 10 too!!

    I was lucky enough to receive a 4IV Modest Feebas with 3 egg moves over wonder-trade yesterday, only thing it needs is Special Attack. So I've been breeding it today in an attempt to get 5 perfect IV's. Every 'Outstanding' Feebas I've had so far has been missing Defence or Special attack. After just one day of breeding feebas after feebas, I can understand how irritating it must be for the people able or willing to invest the time to get these perfect IV's and egg moves, just to have people copy a code into an action replay and do all the work in a matter of seconds.

    I genuinely wish there were an easier or at least less random way of getting top IV's but using codes to modify them isn't it. RNG's suck, I've had my fair share of being screwed over by RNGs in many a game. Rolling 1/100 or even worse 99/100 in an MMO just to have another player roll 100/100 XD. It's infuriating at times, but does that make hacking or illegally modifying a game a reasonable alternative?

    On a side note, not sure anything can/should be considered 'legitimate' if it's hacked in...just my view.
     

    xrawrr

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    NEOCHU said:
    Codes to gain in-game event Pokemon are fine by me. I've missed tons of event Pokemon usually because I miss the event window due to having little time to play.

    Anything else shouldn't be allowed, even the IV modifiers. Unless of course you have no intention of playing online & competitively.

    GF have made EV's considerably easier to manage this gen so I don't see the need to mod those besides laziness. I never normally breed for IV's because for the most part I avoid online play unless battling a friend. Decided to give it a shot this gen though. I've used EV and IV modifiers before in previous gens, but I (until X&Y) have never played online and I wouldn't with a team I had modified and didn't 'earn' as such.

    If modifying a pokemon's IV's to get 31 across the board is acceptable, then GF may as well just set all wild pokemon to start with the highest IV's possible and hell why not make all the starting moves the top egg moves while they're at it! Wait! lets reduce shiny rates to 1 in 10 too!!

    I was lucky enough to receive a 4IV Modest Feebas with 3 egg moves over wonder-trade yesterday, only thing it needs is Special Attack. So I've been breeding it today in an attempt to get 5 perfect IV's. Every 'Outstanding' Feebas I've had so far has been missing Defence or Special attack. After just one day of breeding feebas after feebas, I can understand how irritating it must be for the people able or willing to invest the time to get these perfect IV's and egg moves, just to have people copy a code into an action replay and do all the work in a matter of seconds.

    I genuinely wish there were an easier or at least less random way of getting top IV's but using codes to modify them isn't it. RNG's suck, I've had my fair share of being screwed over by RNGs in many a game. Rolling 1/100 or even worse 99/100 in an MMO just to have another player roll 100/100 XD. It's infuriating at times, but does that make hacking or illegally modifying a game a reasonable alternative?

    On a side note, not sure anything can/should be considered 'legitimate' if it's hacked in...just my view.
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    I agree with this post completely! Although breeding is time consuming, the accomplished feeling at the end makes it worth it. Where as being able to get any pokemon you want when ever you want what is the point of the game? I for one will continue breeding for my perfect iv Pokémon even though it will be useless for trading. Hoping they don't allow any "hacked" Pokémon through the poke bank into x or y legit pokemon or not,the one pokemon game I enjoy doing post game stuff on is about to be ruined :(.
     
    JP

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    Talli said:
    I don't think they should be allowed because it's unfair to battle pokemon with unfair stats and abilties that are not legit on that pokemon.
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    That wouldn't make it a hacked "legal" Pokemon though, which is what this specific topic is about. ;)

    As long as it's all "legal" looking, I don't have much of a problem. Obviously it isn't fair to those who work hard and spend a ton of hours getting that 'mon just right, but not everyone is willing to spend the time to achieve the results. It's a tad disappointing, but it is what it is.

    I've done it myself quite a few times out of pure laziness. Get perfect IV's, or even egg moves that I didn't realize were egg moves until I checked online (stupid me.)

    I don't support hacking the hell out of the Pokemon though. Giving them moves that they could never learn, or giving them more than 510 EV's. Keep those to yourself and for your own personal enjoyment, but don't go using them in a competitive manner. Just not right in my book.
     

    DoomKnight

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    People should really shut up when it comes to hacked (legal) pokemon, I would rather save time and give my pokemon Maxed IVs rather than breeding which takes quite a while, it really saves time. It's like people complaining about something that really benefits them, it won't hurt you nor will the world end if you go and use Pokegen.
     
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