Pokemon Tier Discussion/Resource

Heh, like I said mullac, I saw it happen.

well if a tangrowth saw that it was about to die to a stupid little arbok why wouldn't it switch Ooka whoever you "Saw" battling is a noob.....

They aren't a noob ._.

If you're against a Physical Sweeper, of course you would switch in a physical wall....

oh sorry I was thinking of sludge bomb not gunk shot....and how would an arbok do that?
its attack sucks...

How often is the list updated on the first page?

It just gets updated whenever I feel like it xD

k i'm making a UU team and didn't want to add something that just got boosted up or anything

I was planning on updating it today.

Right I just checked, all pokemon I use fall under UU except kingdra who is Bl so I'm in good waters atm

Your team isn't a UU Team if it has even one BL pokemon in it.

BL IS LOWER OU.

The only difference is that BL are weaker and/or aren't used as much as OU pokemon. Their banning from the UU tier remains the same.

Also what happened to NU? It does have a metagame you know :/

Anti-Pop said:

Your team isn't a UU Team if it has even one BL pokemon in it.

BL IS LOWER OU.

The only difference is that BL are weaker and/or aren't used as much as OU pokemon. Their banning from the UU tier remains the same.

Also what happened to NU? It does have a metagame you know :/

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Well, like I said, I was copying Smogon straight from the site, and if you haven't noticed, they got rid of NU, since people started using Beedrill in UU and actually killing stuff with it. Even though it's more of a BPer. Although Tropius isn't worth anything, but according to them, NU no longer exists.

Ah thanks for the update on the list, don't gotta look at smogon for Tiers now. ^_~

Alright, so now for the discussion.

What are people's view on moving Dugtrio to BL. I personally haven't seen any in a few weeks, and I've battled at least 50 people during that time. I know it's the best Cleanup pokemon in this gen, but ever since Infernape I just haven't been seeing it much.

yah i haven't seen one in a while as well. richard was the last one actually and that was a long while ago XD

that still doesn't change the fact that arena trap is a very useful ability.

Well yeah, but like C_O has stated tons of times, it's not how good a pokemon is that determines if it's OU or BL, but only how much people use it. (not saying that I don't like Revenge killing Infernapes with one xD)

well true, but beyond that, it may be as simple as how much the game has changed. he's not all that needed when garchomp can pull off a swords dance and take out half a team. and aside from that, you don't see much vulnerable sweepers in battle as much. it's a whole lot of tanks and walls. once again, thank garchomp for that.

that shark is such a punk.

So then what's your view on the moving of Dugtrio?

i really don't care XD. but for the sake of discussion, i think he fits. he can actually pull off multiple kills in BL. even then, he's never too broken when you have kingdra owning the tier.

You can interpret the difference between OU/BL in several ways. Really it doesn't matter since they're both the same tier really.

And honestly I don't care what Smogon says, there IS a NU tier and you should really put one on here. If you have to, use Smogon's ADV pagwe to determine the tiers.

Because seriously leaving out a full tier is nonsense. Again I don't care what Smogon says (after all, they're the morons that say Wobbuffet is OU :/)

BTW Ooka this is off-topic but were you by any chance on Netbattle today? Soembody battled me and went "yeah I knew that team looked familiar" and I'm like O_O

Back to tier listings, if there's a tier to get rid of, it's BL. It's honestly a really useless tier. We need NU or this tier list isn't really as good because I used to play NU a lot. I honestly have no clue about this gen's tier thing but I'd like to know. So I say bring back NU! Bring down Smogon!

EDIT: Dugtrio is OU. I've seen plenty on Shoddy :(

Alright, so then decide what we want. I say:

Tropius (Definatly)
Wormadam (All but Ground)

So yeah, those are just a couple, so I guess you guys can list some.