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Counter that Pokémon! SM v.2

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    Chansey @ Eviolite
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
    Bold Nature
    -Seismic Toss
    -Heal Bell
    -Soft-boiled
    -Toxic

    was the only thing I could think of
     
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    Gengar @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Cursed Body
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Taunt
    - Sludge Wave
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast
     
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    Meloetta @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Hyper Voice
    - Psyshock
    - Focus Blast
    - Shadow Ball
     

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    Sableye @ Sablenite
    Ability: Prankster
    EVs: 248 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Protect
    - Knock Off
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Recover
    :^)
     
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  • Clefable @ Life Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Calm Mind
    - Moonblast
    - Stored Power
    - Soft-Boiled

    clef def beats sab and stored power threatens stall, which sab is often on. evs are probably unoptimized.
     
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    Klinklang @ Leftovers
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Shift Gear
    - Gear Grind
    - Return
    - Substitute
     

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  • Calling Infernape out as a Counter.

    As Infernape switches in, Honedge uses Swords Dance.

    Infernape then uses Flare Blitz, which does a maximum of 90.4% to Eviolite Honedge. Honedge responds with +2 Sacred Sword that does 69.6% minumum.

    Honedge can then get the KO with priority +2 Shadow Sneak, which does 46.4% to Infernape (69.6 + 46. 4 = 116%).

    So, countering Honedge (though I guess this counters Infernape too)

    Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off
    - Stone Edge

    Hippowdown can 3HKO and recover any health lost. Honedge can barely muster a 5HKO against Hippowdown (same with Doublade who I think was the original intention of Aaron).


    Changing to include a Doublade just in case...

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 SpD
    Relaxed Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Scald
    - Roar

    Swampert 2HKO's with Earth Power. Doublade/Honedge can only 3HKO at +2 (not possible if Swampert switches in and EP's twice).

    Swampert also beats Infernape. It 2HKO's and while Infernape can 3HKO, it can only do so with Close Combat, leading to defence drops that then change Swampert's attacks into a OHKO.
     
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    Budew @ Eviolite
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 36 HP / 236 Def / 36 SpA / 196 SpD
    Bold Nature
    -Synthesis
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Giga Drain
    -Hidden Power Ground

    0 SpA Swampert Earth Power vs. 36 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Budew: 60-72 (26 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    36 SpA Budew Giga Drain vs. 240 HP / 16 SpD Swampert: 216-256 (53.8 - 63.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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  • Volcarona @ Firium Z
    Ability: Flame Body
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Quiver Dance
    - Fire Blast
    - Giga Drain
    - Hidden Power Ground
     

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    Moltres @ Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Fire Blast
    - Hurricane
    - Roost
     
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    Heatran @ Grassium Z
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Magma Storm
    - Earth Power
    - Solar Beam
    - Ancient Power
     

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    Goodra @ Choice Band
    Ability: Sap Sipper
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Tail
    - Fire Punch
     
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    Togekiss @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Air Slash
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Fire Blast
    - Aura Sphere
     

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    Nihilego @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Power Gem
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power Ice
    - Thunderbolt
     
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    Swampert @ Swampertite
    Ability: Damp
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Rain Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Punch
     
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    Abomasnow @ Abomasite
    Ability: Soundproof
    EVs: 8 HP / 68 Atk / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
    Mild Nature
    - Blizzard
    - Wood Hammer
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake
     

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    Rotom-Heat @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Overheat
    - Thunderbolt
    - Trick
     
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    Lanturn @ Leftovers
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 104 HP / 28 Def / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Substitute
    - Charge Beam
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
     
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