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Old December 20th, 2007 (8:07 PM). Edited April 25th, 2008 by Antwhan.
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    Taking pokemon out of the fuzzy and soft world and into a darker toned, war afflicted one...



    a Wast-ed Productions ltd. Game

    It's a hack of Fire Red


    Features

    An insane storyline set to be one of epic proportions
    - much darker, and very involved storyline, in comparison to the official games
    Brand new world to explore
    - Freeroaming areas that give rise to exploration like that found in The legend of Zelda
    Fancy new graphical work
    - Including but not limited to:
    - New spritework, new palletes, New tiles, new overworlds
    4th gen pokemon (eventually)
    new music (down the line)

    Plot Outline

    You start out on our world.The real world. No pokemon at all, infact they were never conceived at all. You were on your way back from a field trip to the zoo, when your bus broke down. Now you are hanging out in a field in the woods waiting of the repair truck to arrive. After some encouragement, you try to talk with this one girl (or boy eventually) and ask them out. Just as things start to get interesting, a storm appears. Everyone runs into this nearby cave, and everything goes dark. You wake up inside a cave alone, dazed, and with a massive headache.

    You walk outside to try and find the field and everyone else, only to be in some encampment. You wander around trying to get your bearings, till you meet one of your "friends." You try to find out what's going on here and it turns out that your in a completely different world, and are strangely enough the leader of a group of freedom fighters who are fighting in a seemingly endless battle with the totalitarian regime ruling the land...

    All this weirdness is coupled w/ the fact that there's these things called "pokemon" that everyone has and you've nvr seen before, even though you have your own already.
    (The fact tht you dont remember having pkmn b4 brings another interesting plot dynamic to the table.This alternate earth has alt versions of everyone from our earth, and during the course of the journey, you will meet up w/ old friends who may or may not recall your earth, and might even be your enemies here.)

    You have to unite the many different rebel groups together to try and stop the totalitarian forces from conquering more than just this earth, but our earth as well. Your only way home appears to be in the hands of the army.

    The fate of not only this world, but our world rest on your shoulders, can you handle it?

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    Here we have some shots of what looks like a field, I wonder who that girl is over there. hmm... *wink*



    I wonder what's inside this cave.



    Odd cave... Seems different somehow...



    This... isn't where i came in....



    I wonder what's down those stairs? Hmmm....



    So confusing.... this isn't where our bus stopped...

    So that's it.... The screens and all for now.


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    Current Team

    Myself: lead designer, map touchups/finalizing, concept and story
    Link119: co-mapper, secondary designer, approvals
    Teh Blaziken: Tertiary designer co-Mapper, sprite critiquer, Script inserter (my own copy of pokescript wont compile :/)
    Mistersmeargle: Hero Sprites

    Thanks go out to

    thethethethe, meggido, TB Pro! for scripting help
    Earthvisitor + Erimguard for getting me back into hacking.
    Heatran for his advice and help
    Wah+PHO for rombase/tiles
    Donpatch for tiles
    Other people that have assisted me in my progress.
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    Old December 20th, 2007 (8:51 PM). Edited December 20th, 2007 by CrazyLuigi.
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      ah dang, I had a plot similar to this one (In the band of rebels way) i wanted to use after I completed Threads of Reality :P
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      Old December 20th, 2007 (9:12 PM).
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        lol well sorry i beat ya to the punch here man, but you shoud work on deloping a single hack the best u can make it and not try to make a lot, Once you start it's the long haul if u think u can handle the journey....

        hacks take a long time to complete and perfect and just thinking up stories isnt going to get u places ^_^
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        Old December 23rd, 2007 (1:55 PM).
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          new map of the starting town

          made by my mapmaker, who is sadly nt prevalent in forums...
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          Old December 23rd, 2007 (1:58 PM).
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          Old December 23rd, 2007 (2:02 PM).
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            yeah... i as of now i'm doing touch ups of maps made by my friend....he's improving but not spectacular....
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            Old December 23rd, 2007 (3:07 PM).
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              yeah... i as of now i'm doing touch ups of maps made by my friend....he's improving but not spectacular....
              If you want a mapper you should ask around many people want to be mappers in a hack (only few are good) but you should try it...
              You should try in team discussions [non-inc.]reqruitment thingy...
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              Old December 23rd, 2007 (3:15 PM).
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                i was scanning over the non inc thread, but they're full of peopel who have no idea how to do anything....

                maybe someone else in team alpha is up for helping me...i wanna wrk w/ what i got 1st and get a alpha made b4 i go and try to get prolific people or anyone tied to it ..

                I'm gonna keep my friend as mapper for the time being since he's the only one of my irl friends who was up for actually wrking on a hack...even though he takes 4ever to map... I'm just 2 loyal to let him go....
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                Old February 7th, 2008 (7:56 AM).
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                  lol i could be a beta tester.. xD
                  i'm still new to hacking lol so i can't do anything yet except finding for bugs....
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                  Old February 7th, 2008 (3:23 PM).
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                    wow...someone found my hack, after i hvnt made any progress since....

                    well actually that's not completely true...nothing major has been done, still wrking on getting stuff together b4 i release anything worth seeing...

                    my mapper is lazy, and no spriters hve offered help, but i hvnt been looking either thouhg so...

                    i guess i'll take this chance to ask again for a spriter, or at least anyone who is good at resizing sprites for assistance on at least that aspect. more mappers or any other help aside from beta testers would be appricated....

                    some updates inbound w/in the nxt week or 2

                    on that note i take my leave..
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                    Old February 7th, 2008 (3:27 PM).
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                      Well that's no good!
                      lol!
                      I hope you get some progress completed!
                      Lookin' like a pretty good hack so far!
                      BOL!
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                      Old February 10th, 2008 (1:19 PM).
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                        well...my supposed team fell through and now i'm left with my lazy mapper...

                        i call shenanigans. OPEN CASTING CALL!

                        Sprite indexer for 4th generation Pokemon
                        General Spriter
                        a mapper that would actually work

                        any other help would be accepted, we dont rly need a scripter as of yet since i'm wrking on that, but if anyone else wants to offer services the help will be appricated.
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                        Old February 10th, 2008 (1:22 PM).
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                          I can map for you!
                          I'll join on one condition okay?
                          Please don't beg me to map for you when I don't do it.
                          I have a hack that I am working on so I'll map when I can.
                          I am a good a mapper just ask: Itman1234, Or Kebbles!

                          I will not be lazy tho I promise!
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                          Old February 10th, 2008 (2:13 PM).
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                            I acquiesce to your terms teh blaziken. And understand about your hack, I too am an assistant on one *cough*rocket's revenge*cough* and wont force you and such.

                            Maybe i shud explain my seeming hate for mappers. i dotn hate mappers, on the contrary i love them, one of the mre essential things in a hack. The one i have though has done a total of 3 maps over the course of 3 months, and mst hve been subpar. Shure he's a neophite but i cant cut him since he's the only irl friend i hve that wanted to wrk on a hack with me.

                            anyway that makes the staff 3!
                            Blaze, i could sned u ur assignments however u want, msn, pms, aim email...just tell me alright?

                            still looking for a spriter of any flavor.
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                            Old February 10th, 2008 (2:30 PM).
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                              I acquiesce to your terms teh blaziken. And understand about your hack, I too am an assistant on one *cough*rocket's revenge*cough* and wont force you and such.

                              Maybe i shud explain my seeming hate for mappers. i dotn hate mappers, on the contrary i love them, one of the mre essential things in a hack. The one i have though has done a total of 3 maps over the course of 3 months, and mst hve been subpar. Shure he's a neophite but i cant cut him since he's the only irl friend i hve that wanted to wrk on a hack with me.

                              anyway that makes the staff 3!
                              Blaze, i could sned u ur assignments however u want, msn, pms, aim email...just tell me alright?

                              still looking for a spriter of any flavor.
                              Thank you man!

                              Oh wow that's slow!

                              Well do you have an MSN Messenger account?
                              If not PM works fine for me!
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                              Old February 14th, 2008 (4:40 PM). Edited February 14th, 2008 by Antwhan.
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                                [email protected] is my msn s/n usually i use aim but i go on msn from tiem to tiem....
                                hit me up with yours

                                (edited w/ an update post ccccombo)

                                I call the thread to life again! if anyone wants to submit sprites for the project they are welcome to do so.

                                I'm looking for an unusual sprite set, that offers some challenge ( I think ) as far as oiginal ideas goes.

                                Army-styled units such as:
                                * Generic soldiers male and female
                                * higher ranked officer sprites of various ranks
                                * generals and assorted boss characters (inquire cause spoilers possible if u wish to mke sprites for these)

                                Hero/Heroine sprites
                                Looking for a hero rly but heroine will be added i guess once major stuff out of the way...

                                hat-less hero would be something i'm looking for...no other requirements (I'm open liek that) If you spriters need more to run with then i'll wrk on some other specs i guess.

                                If anyone is willing to or has indexed 4th gen pkmn i ask for your help as well.

                                let's see on progress...got some scripts wrking which is good. Mappers are a'mappin'.

                                I implore any spriter to give me sumthing to run with as army guys go...

                                thanx to mappers teh blaziken (who's maps hve looked good from his own hack) and link119 (who had better show me some more of the maps he's wrking on) for the help with my large idea...
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                                Old February 24th, 2008 (5:34 PM).
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                                  On Topic: I finished that map for you before you left for DC, but I never gat a chance to send it to you. Stupid AIM!
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                                  Old February 24th, 2008 (5:46 PM).
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                                    Old February 24th, 2008 (9:14 PM).
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                                      considering the spriter shortage that consistently plagues the pkmn hack realm, and i'm inability to sprite as i've said b4, i welcome mistersmeargle to the position of lead spriter. Welcome aboard.

                                      Update time (I guess?)

                                      Myself: lead designer, map touchups/finalizing, concept and story
                                      Link119: co-mapper, secondary designer, approvals
                                      Teh Blaziken: co-Mapper, sprite indexer
                                      Mistersmeargle: Lead Spriter
                                      • MS (if u dont mnd the shortening) pm, im msn me for info on an assignment i have for you.
                                      • also there will be color changes to certain pokemon to adjust their colors to suit the enviroment better,
                                        bright colored ones may be toned down to give a better feel to the grim atmosphere ( think naranja if you will)
                                        currently there's only scizor who has gone from bright red into a very evil & updated look more suiting for him. sprites will be demoed in screenies in due time. :)
                                      • the list of cuts from current pokemon gens has gone through finalizing, and 4th gen approvals are pending.
                                      • major maps hve been completed and after small touchups may be posted afterwards.
                                      • Thanx are due to blaziken for helping spur on major movement in my other mapper and my own scripting speed. He is a major asset to the team. (no pressure MS lol jk jk ;) )

                                      ALSO: I hope to include a new interesting concept in this game as far as gameplay goes, details are highly classified atm but all I am willing to devulge is that i need confirmation on weather or not i can hex more than 5 evos to a given pokemon, as that will influence this idea slightly in it's execution.
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                                      Old February 24th, 2008 (10:50 PM).
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                                        I don't usually help new hackers, but I'll map for u if u like.
                                        I created Mystical Glacier, check out the thread, and yeah just PM if you want me to...
                                        Best of luck.
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                                          considering the spriter shortage that consistently plagues the pkmn hack realm, and i'm inability to sprite as i've said b4, i welcome mistersmeargle to the position of lead spriter. Welcome aboard.

                                          Update time (I guess?)

                                          Myself: lead designer, map touchups/finalizing, concept and story
                                          Link119: co-mapper, secondary designer, approvals
                                          Teh Blaziken: co-Mapper, sprite indexer
                                          Mistersmeargle: Lead Spriter
                                          • MS (if u dont mnd the shortening) pm, im msn me for info on an assignment i have for you.
                                          • also there will be color changes to certain pokemon to adjust their colors to suit the enviroment better,
                                            bright colored ones may be toned down to give a better feel to the grim atmosphere ( think naranja if you will)
                                            currently there's only scizor who has gone from bright red into a very evil & updated look more suiting for him. sprites will be demoed in screenies in due time.
                                          • the list of cuts from current pokemon gens has gone through finalizing, and 4th gen approvals are pending.
                                          • major maps hve been completed and after small touchups may be posted afterwards.
                                          • Thanx are due to blaziken for helping spur on major movement in my other mapper and my own scripting speed. He is a major asset to the team. (no pressure MS lol jk jk )

                                          ALSO: I hope to include a new interesting concept in this game as far as gameplay goes, details are highly classified atm but all I am willing to devulge is that i need confirmation on weather or not i can hex more than 5 evos to a given pokemon, as that will influence this idea slightly in it's execution.
                                          Kk I have a few things to outline far ya'!
                                          • I would like to help with scripting if it is needed.
                                          • Don't forget to give me credit for the Scizor lol! Jk, Jk!
                                          • Thank you so much for all that thanks! it really means alot! More than you think!
                                          • BOL!
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                                          wow! Awesome story, it kinda sounds like a reverse Full Metal Alchemist story, I love it! I really do hope you can implement all the idea you have, 'cos they sound good too. :D
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                                          Old February 25th, 2008 (8:56 PM).
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                                            I don't usually help new hackers, but I'll map for u if u like.
                                            I created Mystical Glacier, check out the thread, and yeah just PM if you want me to...
                                            Best of luck.
                                            thanks, and your help is welcome :)

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                                            Kk I have a few things to outline far ya'!

                                            * I would like to help with scripting if it is needed.
                                            * Don't forget to give me credit for the Scizor lol! Jk, Jk!
                                            * Thank you so much for all that thanks! it really means alot! More than you think!
                                            * BOL!
                                            why not? i really do love your willingness to help me out. i was going to credit you when i revealed some of your work in the coming week. but *credits to tb for custom palletes and updated sprites for select pkmn (sizor currently only one)

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                                            wow! Awesome story, it kinda sounds like a reverse Full Metal Alchemist story, I love it! I really do hope you can implement all the idea you have, 'cos they sound good too.
                                            wow, the amazing darth. thanks for the support, your tools are sublime. as if you needed another person to tell ya that. :P

                                            I wasn;t thinking specifically of fma, but that works out lol.

                                            another day another update:
                                            well music hacking has stumbled into the realm of alliance.

                                            I have successfully managed to create midis of some song files i liked and currently messing with sappy to try to get it sounding right as well as get the right length for the songs, cause i woudl rather replace the old music, instead of just adding new stuff into it clogging the rom.

                                            I hope these tracks'll help to add a unique flavor to the hack and give it differentiation from the rest out there.

                                            Also in the market to add new tiles and palletes to the game, this is up in the air still as to when i'll get round to it. But most likely it'll be sooner rather than l8r.

                                            still looking for an answer to my question that i said b4, got desprate enuff to toss into simple questions thread lol... if ANYONE can answer my question please do...

                                            maps are on the way for display sumtime this week along with other media. stay posted.

                                            Rock ON !!
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                                            Old February 29th, 2008 (5:07 AM).
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                                              Sounds pretty cool even if borrows a bit from digimon plots. Ya know the whole getting transported to the digita.... er pokeworld. But I cant wait to see when this gets made.

                                              Neither can my cat, he is purring and staring at the computer.
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                                              Old March 13th, 2008 (7:25 PM).
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                                                What's this? I've been able to force myself away from Super Smash Bros. Brawl, long enuff to provide an update after the hiatus it's been on.

                                                As far as music goes....not so good....countless failed attempts mean it's a no go as it stands....

                                                I got some work in the mapping department, but it's nt fixed w/ the new tiles/palletes. Speaking of those, we are going w/ the d/p base found on pho w/ pallete changes by the infamous TB PRo! I feel that they looks fantastic. Using this base means i need to remap some of the stuff now cause well the d/p trees are bigger and such. no biggie. I'll find time.

                                                Moving on......Sprites! yes yes yes... We got a few to show off now dont we? Mistersmeargle has given us these Gorgeous sprites to use. now i've been faced with the bug of getting them inserted/indexed. also on the to do list. let's show off the sprites shall we?

                                                Hero


                                                Heroine


                                                Army Private


                                                NOW....about these ingame....we need overworlds for these guys and the main probelm i've been running into is changing the palletes of the overworlds to wrk and making good ones @ that, sprites @ least. So, consider it a request for anyone w/ good overworld skills.

                                                they need to be indexed and set up for insertion so unless anyone else wants to do that i'll take care of that someday soon.

                                                well did i cover everything....alsmt i guess

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                                                Sounds pretty cool even if borrows a bit from digimon plots. Ya know the whole getting transported to the digita.... er pokeworld. But I cant wait to see when this gets made.

                                                Neither can my cat, he is purring and staring at the computer.
                                                I wasn't thinking about them actually. But know that i do think bout it it is similar to the plot of the 1st season at least.

                                                Casting call is open as always: overworlds needed for those sprites, and to index them properly

                                                anyway, progress has slowed mainly due to skool and BRAWL so pardon the speed we're just changing gears atm. :)

                                                Rock On,
                                                Antwhan
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