7 pokemon in ash's team, what a cheat

firestream

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    While he has larvitar there are 7 in his team. I think he should have received a minimum ban of 8 years for breaking pokemon league rules.
     
    He never actually caught Larvitar. He was just returning it to it's mother. If it was his, it would have been transferred to Oak's lab.
     
    It's the anime, damn it. Ash can do whatever the hell the plot writers make him. Now shut up and sit down.

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    firestream said:
    that's what I thought until he actually used it in a battle...
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    He's also used Sableye and like icaica said, Haunter. Trainers have used wild pokemon. Misty had also used Golduck and I think brock used Stantler. Plus Ash also used Hippopotas(He SHOULD have caught the little hippo though >_<)
     
    Jesse used Croagunk in the ep when brock caught it and she used it for unoffical gym battles when it was still wild
     
    Jayster23 said:
    Jesse used Croagunk in the ep when brock caught it and she used it for unoffical gym battles when it was still wild
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    Yeah that's true. I mean trainers have used wild pokemon before they catch them alot too.
     
    Its the television show, and on the show, they make him do whatever they want him to do. Even if that wasn't the case, and he had another pokemon battling for him that wasn't his--lets say when he fought Sabrina with Haunter--who would know? Sabrina didn't know all his pokes and no one from the league was there. I would too if I could get away with it.
     
    icaica said:
    He used Haunter in a battle in the first season but it wasn't his Pokemon.
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    Umm... Actually, he didn't. When Ash was about to use Haunter in his second and third rematch against Sabrina, If you notice, he never came to Ash's aid. And even when he did eventually arrive, he didn't ACTUALLY battle Kadabra, he just went to Sabrina, made some goofy faces and blew both himself and Sabrina with a gag-bomb. he only INDIRECTLY caused damage to Kadabra due to their mind being one (and even then, it was purely unintentional).
     
    Even if you don't want to count the Haunter example, think of every other one.
     
    I thought Ash had a 7 pokemon team with theses pokemon- Pikachu, Butterfree, Pidgeotto, Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, and Snorlax?
     
    Yes, because having 7 Pokemon is the only thing Ash has ever cheated on. -_-
     
    Akio123 said:
    He never actually caught Larvitar. He was just returning it to it's mother. If it was his, it would have been transferred to Oak's lab.
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    Wasn't he doing sort of the same thing to Lapras? If i recall correctly, He was ALSO intending to return it to it's pod if he ever found it, so technically speaking, It wasn't really Ash's Pokemon.

    I know Ash caught it in a Pokeball, but that DOESN'T mean it's his. I mean, Brock caught Vulpix in a Poke ball [I don't think Suzie just gave him it's pokeball since prior to brock sending it into it's Poke ball, Vulpix was somewhat like Pikachu in the sense that it walked around without being contained in it's Poke ball], and even HE stated that it wasn't even his pokemon.
     
    weedle_mchairybug said:
    Wasn't he doing sort of the same thing to Lapras? If i recall correctly, He was ALSO intending to return it to it's pod if he ever found it, so technically speaking, It wasn't really Ash's Pokemon.

    I know Ash caught it in a Pokeball, but that DOESN'T mean it's his. I mean, Brock caught Vulpix in a Poke ball [I don't think Suzie just gave him it's pokeball since prior to brock sending it into it's Poke ball, Vulpix was somewhat like Pikachu in the sense that it walked around without being contained in it's Poke ball], and even HE stated that it wasn't even his pokemon.
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    Yes but Larvitar never went in a pokeball.That's the key phrase btw in which I highlighted. Not to mention, he was TOLD where the mother was and was asked by Proffessor Elm to return it. With Lapras its completely different, because Ash wasn't looking for the mother straight out not to mention he KNEW where the preserve he was going to is. Ash never caught Larvitar because he knew he had to return it with Lapras he didn't.
     
    weedle_mchairybug said:
    Umm... Actually, he didn't. When Ash was about to use Haunter in his second and third rematch against Sabrina, If you notice, he never came to Ash's aid. And even when he did eventually arrive, he didn't ACTUALLY battle Kadabra, he just went to Sabrina, made some goofy faces and blew both himself and Sabrina with a gag-bomb. he only INDIRECTLY caused damage to Kadabra due to their mind being one (and even then, it was purely unintentional).
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    In my opinion, Haunter did. Even if he didn't come right away he still helped Ash. But I guess it just depends on how you feel about it. Either way, Ash has never had seven Pokemon on his team.

    weedle_mchairybug said:
    Wasn't he doing sort of the same thing to Lapras? If i recall correctly, He was ALSO intending to return it to it's pod if he ever found it, so technically speaking, It wasn't really Ash's Pokemon.

    I know Ash caught it in a Pokeball, but that DOESN'T mean it's his. I mean, Brock caught Vulpix in a Poke ball [I don't think Suzie just gave him it's pokeball since prior to brock sending it into it's Poke ball, Vulpix was somewhat like Pikachu in the sense that it walked around without being contained in it's Poke ball], and even HE stated that it wasn't even his pokemon.
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    He did catch Lapras, which DID make it his Pokemon, but at the end of the Orange League they found his pod and he just released him. Like butterfree.

    Even if Suzie gave her Vulpix to Brock she'd have to give him the Pokeball because you can't transfer Pokemon from one ball to another (you can't, right?) But anyway, that's different, because Suzie caught Vulpix, which made Vulpix ultimately hers, even if Brock did take care of it for a while...just think of it as a lease. ;)
     
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    Akio123 said:
    Yes but Larvitar never went in a pokeball.
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    So? Misty's togepi/togetic never went into a pokeball, either, and the fans still counted it as her pokemon despite that. Same deal with Delia's Mr. Mime. Plus, Brock's Vulpix was caught in one of Brock's pokeballs, and it still wasn't his.

    I know that Icachi is probably going to say that Suzie probably gave Brock it's pokeball, but I just want to say that I don't think that suzie even keeps it in a poke ball, prior to it's accompaniment of brock, since it spent the entire episode up to Brock acquiring it out in front of company. I mean, correct me if I'm mistaken, but don't house pokemon (as in, pet pokemon that don't really participate in pokemon battles or contests at all since their acquirement) not contained in pokeballs?

    Plus, I can't say that they absolutely can't switch pokeballs, since otherwise, Ash's Tauros would still be in their safari balls instead of being placed in pokeballs in the episodes afterwards. but I can at least say that it may be limited restrictions to their old pokeballs. (Then again, Charmander DID seem to go into Ash's pokeball even though it still, technically belonged to Damian).

    That's the key phrase btw in which I highlighted. Not to mention, he was TOLD where the mother was and was asked by Proffessor Elm to return it. With Lapras its completely different, because Ash wasn't looking for the mother straight out not to mention he KNEW where the preserve he was going to is. Ash never caught Larvitar because he knew he had to return it with Lapras he didn't.
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    The only thing that's different in this case was that Ash knew where the Momma Tyranatar was and not where the Pod was. He clearly promised Lapras that he would return it to it's pod, which, even IF the Professor didn't tell him where it was or to do it, it was still no different since the end result and the motivation was the same, to return it to it's family. Plus, since he clearly promised it that he would return it to it's pod, He pretty much knew he had to return it. he just didn't know WHEN he will. if he didn't know that he had to return it, he never would have promised him that he would return it.


    Also, Icachi, in regards to Haunter, it only went to Ash during the third round (albeit delayed) because Mr. Sabrina found it in the playground and got it to the gym. Besides, it never attacked Kadabra at ALL (It didn't use any of its attacks on Kadabra, it just went towards Sabrina and attempted to make her laugh.). but, hey, it's your opinion.
     
    weedle_mchairybug said:
    So? Misty's togepi/togetic never went into a pokeball, either, and the fans still counted it as her pokemon despite that. Same deal with Delia's Mr. Mime. Plus, Brock's Vulpix was caught in one of Brock's pokeballs, and it still wasn't his.

    Granted, as for Togepi/Togetic what if she put it in a pokeball offscreen.

    I know that Icachi is probably going to say that Suzie probably gave Brock it's pokeball, but I just want to say that I don't think that suzie even keeps it in a poke ball, prior to it's accompaniment of brock, since it spent the entire episode up to Brock acquiring it out in front of company. I mean, correct me if I'm mistaken, but don't house pokemon (as in, pet pokemon that don't really participate in pokemon battles or contests at all since their acquirement) not contained in pokeballs?

    So Meowsy was never in ANY pokeball? Plus you have to assume Meowth was caught somewhere. Not to mention she could have given brock the Pokeball.

    Plus, I can't say that they absolutely can't switch pokeballs, since otherwise, Ash's Tauros would still be in their safari balls instead of being placed in pokeballs in the episodes afterwards. but I can at least say that it may be limited restrictions to their old pokeballs. (Then again, Charmander DID seem to go into Ash's pokeball even though it still, technically belonged to Damian).

    ...Its called RELEASE...Shinji does it what every other episode...

    The only thing that's different in this case was that Ash knew where the Momma Tyranatar was and not where the Pod was. He clearly promised Lapras that he would return it to it's pod, which, even IF the Professor didn't tell him where it was or to do it, it was still no different since the end result and the motivation was the same, to return it to it's family. Plus, since he clearly promised it that he would return it to it's pod, He pretty much knew he had to return it. he just didn't know WHEN he will. if he didn't know that he had to return it, he never would have promised him that he would return it.

    He did Promised granted, but the difference was the Lapras was his pokemon and he was going to return it to it's pod if they found it. BUT with Larvitar it was being taken to it's mother. It's not liekw ith Lapras where he just happen to run into the pod. With Larvitar he was being told to take it to the preserve. Did Ash go through the Orange Islands to find the Pod? No. Did Ash promise to take Larvitar to it's mother as a request Yes.


    Also, Icachi, in regards to Haunter, it only went to Ash during the third round (albeit delayed) because Mr. Sabrina found it in the playground and got it to the gym. Besides, it never attacked Kadabra at ALL (It didn't use any of its attacks on Kadabra, it just went towards Sabrina and attempted to make her laugh.). but, hey, it's your opinion.
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    My comments in bold. I mean with Suzie yeah, he said it was her's, but that's different. With Lapras with Ash however, he even said in the first episode "I caught Lapras!" It was his FOR THE TIME BEING. I mean like no matter what little time he had it, it was his. With Vulpix, brock said it wasn't his.
     
    Akio123 said:
    Granted, as for Togepi/Togetic what if she put it in a pokeball offscreen.
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    Umm, if she placed it into a pokeball off screen, we would have her calling out Togepi from it's pokeball instead of having to see it outside with the gang for far longer than EVEN Pikachu had mustered in their debuts. Take Squirtle or Lapras, we didn't see him capture them, but we knew he did by having him send out the pokeball containing each of them.

    So Meowsy was never in ANY pokeball? Plus you have to assume Meowth was caught somewhere. Not to mention she could have given brock the Pokeball.
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    Umm, Meowsy was shown to have a pokeball in a flash back, so yes, she had a pokeball, I was more referring to pokemon like Mr. Mime, or that Poochyena sleeping in a basket from a hoenn episode that I saw on someones avatar. And in regards to Meowth, he was actually stated to have been caught in a pokeball in Johto (at least according to TV.com), with Suzie, she never really implied (much less stated) that she even kept Vulpix in a pokeball.

    He did Promised granted, but the difference was the Lapras was his pokemon and he was going to return it to it's pod if they found it. BUT with Larvitar it was being taken to it's mother. It's not liekw ith Lapras where he just happen to run into the pod. With Larvitar he was being told to take it to the preserve. Did Ash go through the Orange Islands to find the Pod? No. Did Ash promise to take Larvitar to it's mother as a request Yes.
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    Ash was going to take Lapras to it's pod, anyways, even if it took until the end of hoenn to do so. Besides, he could have been just doing that, and yet never stated it onscreen. Besides, what if Larvitar's mom moved around, or worse, was dead? Just because she was stated to be at THAT preserve doesn't necessarily mean that she Is going to be there when they arrived at it. for all we know, that could have been her last known location.

    My comments in bold. I mean with Suzie yeah, he said it was her's, but that's different. With Lapras with Ash however, he even said in the first episode "I caught Lapras!" It was his FOR THE TIME BEING. I mean like no matter what little time he had it, it was his. With Vulpix, brock said it wasn't his.
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    So? By your logic, then that Hoothoot that Gary had was actually his despite the episode making it quite clear that he actually rented it Just because he said he caught it. Heck, Misty even said that some of Ash's pokemon more followed him around than were actually captured by Ash. (Like Charmander, Squirtle, and Caterpie.). so I don't really see the difference between them. Besides, Ash didn't have the same maturity as Brock. And anyways, Ash never stated that Haunter and Larvitar was neither his pokemon, nor did he say that they weren't his pokemon. The only pokemon that ANY character has stated was never their pokemon to begin with was Vulpix.

    Speaking of pokemon just following it's trainer rather than actually being captured, I was quite surprised that Ash didn't berate Brock for how he captured Croagunk, considering how Misty and Brock berated Ash as to how HE caught pokemon.

    I mean, why is it that when Ash does this, his group says that some of his pokemon only follow him around, and yet when Brock does the exact same thing in regards to croagunk they praise him and act like he has "Mad Skillz"?
     
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