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Alice

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  • So, with this "New Life" bacteria thing, and new documents that are about to be posted on wikileaks about UFO sightings... what are your thoughts on the possibility of aliens existing, and the chance that we will meet them? What do you think our governments will do?



    Me: I love space, and science fiction, but what we know of space so far is really boring. I'm not 100% sure if I even want aliens to exist, but they're our best bet for advancing to science-fiction-like technology in my lifetime. Overall, I seriously doubt that they do exist, (although, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do) but it would be a dream come true for me if we do meet up with some. The changes to our society would be incredible, just from being able to confirm their existence. As for what we would actually do... (Actually... isn't there already some protocol for that?)

    Kind of hoping for some actual discussion, and not just 1 line answers, so that's why I'm posting in Other Chat.
     

    Rich Boy Rob

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    As I've said in the past 50 threads of this topic:

    I'm definitely a believer in aliens. It seems completely ridiculous to me that there is only one tiny, insignificant blue dot in space that has developed life. In fact I find it ignorant not to.
    As for intelligent life; I'm sure that's out there too, but way, way further away, like on another Galactic Arm at the minimum. That's the reason I think we haven't ever made first contact with extra terrestrial life: sheer distance. I mean the signals that we've sent out into space can only travel at the speed of light, so even the earliest stray radio wave could only be 100 odd light years away by now, which is nothing in reality.
    And I think you're right, I'm pretty sure the UN does have a First-Contact Protocol somewhere.
     
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  • There should be a sticky of this topic the amount of times it comes up -___-

    Anyway, like the previous poster, I have also said that with the endless amount of planets and galaxies out there, I think there is life on other planets.
     
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  • To me it doesn't make sense when people are dead set against the possibility of there being life on places that aren't Earth. For as freakin HUGE as the universe is I don't get how there couldn't be.

    I just hope Stephen Hawking is wrong about them being ~space vikings~ D= lol
     
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  • Copy pasta from the last thread on this (in addition to below, however, this scientific proof of life being able to exist in completely different forms (arsenic based), makes it even more likely to be life out there).

    Okay, just a little bit of math here for you. Nothing complex, just basic multiplication and division.

    Okay, so we have like 100 billion stars in a galaxy on average (the Milky Way is predicted to have between 100 billion and 400 billion stars, and some galaxies have less than this (and some have much more) so we'll be conservative and just for the sake of argument assume the average is just 100,000,000,000 stars).

    Now, with our current technology we're pretty certain there are at least 50 billion galaxies out there, although estimates are that there are FAR more. Just for the sake of argument let's say there are only 50 billion galaxies (even though the real number is likely to be more than double this amount). Now, by multiplying these two numbers together (100 billion stars per galaxy where there are 50 billion galaxies), we get a total of 5 x 10^21 stars (or 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, that's 5 sextillion stars).

    Of course, not every star system has planets on it, however it's thought to be very common for stars to have planets in orbit around them. Let us assume that only... one in a million stars has a planetary system (that's being very conservative). And to keep things simple, let's assume that every one of these solar systems has only one planet, even though they're likely to have more (remember our Solar System has eight). So divide the number of stars by the number of stars with a planet (1 in a million, so by a million) and we have 5 x 10^15 planets in the universe (or 5,000,000,000,000,000, that's 5 quadrillion planets).

    Also not every planet is capable of supporting life, so let's say 1 in a million planets is capable of supporting life (so only one planet in every million is capable of supporting life, that's a low estimate). So all up we have 5 x 10^9 planets that can support life (or 5,000,000,000, that's 5 billion planets).

    So get this - 5 billion planets in the universe are capable of supporting life according to this little math thingy. Let's remember that we've assumed a lower number of galaxies than there actually is, a lot lower number of planets than there is thought to be and a lower amount of planets capable of supporting life than there probably is. 5 billion planets is a much smaller estimate than probable, but even then - five billion planets! You can't look at that and say that there is NO life out there.

    There's a few problems though. How common is life, exactly? The most accepted theory to the beginning of life was that it was an accident, that amino acids that had been moving around for a long, long period of time happened to collide in the right way and that started a chain reaction that gave birth to life. How likely would this be to happen? And then on top of this, we need to figure out if life would even evolve past bacteria and single-cell organisms. I don't know exactly, but I think it was like 2 and a half billion years for us to evolve from cells. Stars don't last forever and that 2 and a half billion years has taken up a lot of our sun's lifetime. What if life hadn't evolved far enough before its local star died? Also, what if life hadn't evolved on a particular planet enough to be considered intelligent or self aware?

    Also, if there are intelligent aliens somewhere else in the universe, it's likely that they are far more advanced than we are. I mean, what are the chances that all advanced civilisations are progressing at the same rate we are and at the same time (in the same tens of thousands of years or whatever)? Our medical advancements have been amazing, what if these other life forms have found the secret to practically being immortal? The point I'm making is, if there is advanced life, why haven't we come in contact with them yet? Surely if they're that advanced they would have figured out a way to travel great distances in a short amount of time by now. Are they avoiding contact with us? Is it inevitable that intelligent life destroys itself before it is advanced enough to contact extra-terrestrial life?

    Despite the points against there being intelligent life, I do believe there is intelligent life out there. Think of how big the universe is, how many stars, how many galaxies... it'd just be weird if we were the only race.

    (Now I expect to get *shot* by Mizan or another science person if I got something wrong)
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Because there's life discovered in other planets, I do believe in aliens. They may or may not be as intelligent as we are, but at least there's life outside of Earth.
     
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  • Because there's life discovered in other planets, I do believe in aliens. They may or may not be as intelligent as we are, but at least there's life outside of Earth.
    I don't think there's any solid proof of there being life on other planets as of yet. Like the probability is really high, but so far we haven't been able to determine that there DEFINITELY is life on other planets.
     

    Perriechu

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  • Compared to all of your answers this sounds silly but here we go n.n; I don't believe in Aliens and I don't think I ever will :/ I don't believe there are little green men in flying saucers that want to destroy earth :o But since that new life thing was found in the toxic lake my mind is starting to see other possibilities.

    There getting to me!:o
     

    dragoniteuser

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  • The universe consists of thousands of galaxies. Galaxies have millions of starts in them. Let's say that each of that stars has JUST ONE planet in it's solar system, that means there's at least 1000000000 planets in the universe.
    Yeah, I'm sure that ours is the only inhabited planet! LOL
     
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  • More aliens. xD At least it isn't zombies

    Given the circumstances, and the mathematical probabilities, thee is no doubt in my mind that somewhere out there, there is some form of life other than our own. Stereotypical Aliens? maybe, but until we get concrete evidence for their existence, or lack therof, we'll be kept guessing.
     

    Percy Thrillington

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    I could write a post explaining the exact probability behind what I'm about to say but I'm too lazy. Basically (from what I remember), the probability of there being a fully evolved civilisation out there is up in the hundred millions - so what's the probability of there being just... bacteria somewhere on a sphere we haven't found yet? Or maybe we have found it and we just haven't looked hard enough. Aliens have gotta be out there but they mightn't take the stereotypical view you've been given by sci-fi movies.
     

    Alice

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  • @ Everyone: Well, looking at it from a scientific point of view, as I'm sure you all are, I agree. There is no doubt that there are plenty of aliens to be found out there. Looking at it from a Christian point of view, I think it's unlikely. However, I still wouldn't be surprised if there are, and I can definitely dream. lol

    Also, I've been here for like 2 years, and never came across an alien thread. -.-
     

    Ascaris

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  • Looking at it from a Christian point of view, I think it's unlikely.

    yes we all need a point of view which isnt based on facts and logic and all those other trivial things scientists like waving in our faces
     

    Stratos99

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  • i like the idea that there's another civilization out there looking for us just as we're looking for them. the idea blows my mind that another world could exist. who knows, maybe there are a whole bunch of inhabited planets and we've yet to communicate with each other, it would be funny if one day a few million years from now one of these civilizations advanced enough to connect each of these and we had something like star wars going on.

    of course there are infinite possibilities, and while we tend to look at aliens as the more advanced between us, it could very well be that we're the most advanced species in the universe. maybe even the only species that isn't microscopic. and then there's the possibility that we're just the only species (earthling creatures i mean). when you think about it, the universe has been around for an incomprehensible amount of time, maybe at some point or many points, there were other species. but as we've seen demonstrated on earth species can go extinct, and when you appropriate that to a larger scale aka the universe there are many things that could have wiped out a civilization or species. it's not impossible or crazy to assume we might be the only species at this point in time.
     

    Alice

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  • yes we all need a point of view which isnt based on facts and logic and all those other trivial things scientists like waving in our faces
    I always consider both sides of an argument.
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    Corvus of the Black Night

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  • It's silly to think that our Earth is the only place where life could exist. Sure, it may not be as advanced as life on Earth, but for crying out loud, there's bacterial life in the freaking atmosphere.

    It's unlikely that we'll ever come in contact with another intelligent life form, though. The universe is too huge for that.
     

    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire

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  • So, with this "New Life" bacteria thing, and new documents that are about to be posted on wikileaks about UFO sightings... what are your thoughts on the possibility of aliens existing, and the chance that we will meet them? What do you think our governments will do?



    Me: I love space, and science fiction, but what we know of space so far is really boring. I'm not 100% sure if I even want aliens to exist, but they're our best bet for advancing to science-fiction-like technology in my lifetime. Overall, I seriously doubt that they do exist, (although, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do) but it would be a dream come true for me if we do meet up with some. The changes to our society would be incredible, just from being able to confirm their existence. As for what we would actually do... (Actually... isn't there already some protocol for that?)

    Kind of hoping for some actual discussion, and not just 1 line answers, so that's why I'm posting in Other Chat.
    What Wikileaks is going to reveal documents on Ufo sighting...oh this should be good :)...
    I beleive we aren't the only beings on this sphere of Stars, debris, and empty black space we call "The universe", though I too wonder what will happen if we do meet aliens...we humans mate with them like in Sci fi shows...
     

    Stratos99

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  • lmao, i wonder how the government would react to inter species mingling. what if you had a baby with an alien? would they take it away for experimentation? could we sue them? would you send it to school with all the earthlings or would it be segregation all over again?
     

    Percy Thrillington

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    I always consider both sides of an argument.
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    When did the Vatican's views become a side to every argument?

    Your quote makes no sense - all you stated was that from a Christian point of view, it's unlikely. How is it unlikely? Who said it'd be unlikely? So some obscure passage in the bible mentioned that alien life is laughable; that somehow means it's completely hopeless but that it'd be intelligent to speculate otherwise? You know there's other religions out there - go read a Qu'ran and tell me what they think. Then we'd be able to get a third side to the argument that's obviously relevant because it's thousands of years old and not-outdated at all!
     
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    I have read most of the famous alien encounter cases. Those are really interesting and if we read it once we will definitely believe there is something.
     
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