Are you a vegetarian who doesn't eat animal products to stop them from being killed?

maya miyazono said:
You mean they don't?. They dicided to feel for everything?.
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So all you ever do is kill animals and other humans?

Alana said:
*sighs* If there had never been humans, or we had not devoloped technology, some animal would have become 'superior' and would probably be having the exact same conversaton but in a different language. When humans are gone some wild animal will take out place.
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Who cares if we never got technology. All that matters is that we did, and now we're on the top of the food chain.
 
maya miyazono said:
sounds cool and all but we waste our knowledge on killing eachother and animals.
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So tell me, why is that you have problems with humans killing animals, but you have no problem when an animal does so? Humans use their talent and skill (their brain) as a means of getting food. Just as do animals with their claws, teeth, poison and and other things.
 
Jarman said:
So all you ever do is kill animals and other humans?



Who cares if we never got technology. All that matters is that we did, and now we're on the top of the food chain.
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Quit pushing people around like this. No i do not. Though around the world they do.
 
That's not my point. Yes we got it. We went to top of the food chain. That won't change until we die out. But we are going back to the disregard of ifs. If scientists had never said if, if our ancestors had never said if, we would not be who we are today. We woudl not know what we do today. We would not have what we have today. It's as simple as that. I am not forcing anyone to think this way. I said I wasn't. I'm bored so I'm sharing my opinion.
 
maya miyazono said:
Quit pushing people around like this. No i do not. Though around the world they do.
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I'm not pushing anyone around, I'm just showing you that what you say is incredibly vague.
 
And so you're condemning the challenging spirit of man? o_O; It sounds like you want to be primitive; you should be grateful for those who brought man into an era of knowledge and wisdom; I'm sure if you had to live in prehistoric squalor you'd be singing a different tune.
 
Mihara said:
So tell me, why is that you have problems with humans killing animals, but you have no problem when an animal does so? Humans use their talent and skill (their brain) as a means of getting food. Just as do animals with their claws, teeth, poison and and other things.
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Mihara as i said before. I/We/All don't have the power to change and stop animals. I really would if i was able.:(I can't stand any death and humans keep on going at it. Though we have the power to change ourselves and help the earth.
 
maya miyazono said:
Mihara as i said before. I/We/All don't have the power to change and stop animals. I really would if i was able.:(I can't stand any death and humans keep on going at it. Though we have the power to change ourselves and help the earth.
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If you can't handle death, you're an idiot. Animals kill eachother all the time. Humans are also animals. Animals kill weaker animals. Live with it.
 
Jarman said:
If you can't handle death, you're an idiot. Animals kill eachother all the time. Humans are also animals. Animals kill weaker animals. Live with it.
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I belive that can change. Flame me for thinking that aslo.
 
maya miyazono said:
Mihara as i said before. I/We/All don't have the power to change and stop animals. I really would if i was able.:(I can't stand any death and humans keep on going at it. Though we have the power to change ourselves and help the earth.
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For the love of...

You want to force your opinions on other people and tell them how to live life. You shouldn't do that, if you think what they do is wrong, fine, just don't shove it down their faces. I can't count how many times a vegan has come up to me and said I'm a meat killer. Well guess what? "Hey the veggies you eat...don't they leave animals with less food?" Yes they do, but they like to avoid pure fact. I'm only for killing animals when it's used for food, I don't like animals being killed for game or for other things. Nor does most of the world which is why there are many laws against that sort of thing all over the world.

You act as if humans kill animals in cold blood. We kill so that we can live on, it's been like this for millions upon millions of years. Animals did the same thing, they only kill when they want to eat. Most humans do the same, and the ones that don't, like I said are sent to jail if and when they're caught doing things. That problem mainly is in Africa with people seeling animal tusks to make things out of and to sell. Death is a part of life, eventually you'll have to learn that fact.
 
maya miyazono said:
I belive that can change. Flame me for thinking that aslo.
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It's instinct. You can't change instinct. If you can, it would take thousands of years. Stop trying and suck up the fact that eating meat is normal.
 
Death is a sudject most don't like. If I killed a five year old because he was weaker than me would that be ok? No. That's because human life is regarded so much more highly than that of a wild animal. However, if I went out and killed my cat, no one would turn a hair. At least no one with any power to do something about it. So there's the problem. One death is no better or worse than the other but still human deaths are considered much more important than that of an animal.
 
Alana said:
Death is a sudject most don't like. If I killed a five year old because he was weaker than me would that be ok? No. That's because human life is regarded so much more highly than that of a wild animal. However, if I went out and killed my cat, no one would turn a hair. At least no one with any power to do something about it. So there's the problem. One death is no better or worse than the other but still human deaths are considered much more important than that of an animal.
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If you killed your cat and someone found out that you killed it and it didn't die from natural causes, you would be arrested for animal abuse. You know nothing.
 
Mihara said:
For the love of...

You want to force your opinions on other people and tell them how to live life. You shouldn't do that, if you think what they do is wrong, fine, just don't shove it down their faces. I can't count how many times a vegan has come up to me and said I'm a meat killer. Well guess what? "Hey the veggies you eat...don't they leave animals with less food?" Yes they do, but they like to avoid pure fact. I'm only for killing animals when it's used for food, I don't like animals being killed for game or for other things. Nor does most of the world which is why there are many laws against that sort of thing all over the world.

You act as if humans kill animals in cold blood. We kill so that we can live on, it's been like this for millions upon millions of years. Animals did the same thing, they only kill when they want to eat. Most humans do the same, and the ones that don't, like I said are sent to jail if and when they're caught doing things. That problem mainly is in Africa with people seeling animal tusks to make things out of and to sell. Death is a part of life, eventually you'll have to learn that fact.
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Naturally in life we all die Mhm, i always hade that straight Mihara.><
Though i think its wrong to Kill a living animal for your own hunger.
Im not forcing my opion on anyone.People never ever tryed hard enough to live on without meat.Your saying as if plants don't ever grow. :/
 
Mihara said:
Death is a part of life, eventually you'll have to learn that fact.
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Nobody on the other side of the debate seems to realize that humans eventually end up as food for ground-burrowing insects and fungi. If you're going to say anything at all, at least consider first that we are all dealt, in your opinion, justice.

I would never call such a thing justice, though. It's mere morbid fate.
 
You think I dun know about animal cops? That's not what I was saying again. If a human is killed they send out investigators and detectives and work very hard to find out who did it. If a cat was foudn dead, appearantly beaten to death, nata. Oh, I happen to be a high level TAG student who knows loads about animals so watch who you call stupid.
 
Housepets are related to wild animals, so they should be able to feel emotions too. And IF they can't (Not saying they can't) Humans are a really really stupid species, for getting emotionally attached to these 'emotioneless beasts' >_>
 
maya miyazono said:
Naturally in life we all die Mhm, i always hade that straight Mihara.><
Though i think its wrong to Kill a living animal for your own hunger.
Im not forcing my opion on anyone.People never ever tryed hard enough to live on without meat.Your saying as if plants don't ever grow. :/
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How do snakes eat? They don't exactly eat berries for a reason. They neat the protien in meat to live. So do we. We need certain protiens only found in meat.....

cows. They were made to be eaten or made use of for food. Why else would be have a big peice of fat stupid meat?
 
Alana said:
You think I dun know about animal cops? That's not what I was saying again. If a human is killed they send out investigators and detectives and work very hard to find out who did it. If a cat was foudn dead, appearantly beaten to death, nata. Oh, I happen to be a high level TAG student who knows loads about animals so watch who you call stupid.
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I don't see how you can be anything but a high level reader at 13.
 
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