Are you a vegetarian who doesn't eat animal products to stop them from being killed?

Mihara said:
That mind is driven by instinct, only few types of animals have been known to show emotion and those are either housepets or animals that humans wouldn't eat in the first place.

And your point is...? You're just stating facts that we all know, that I myself said way back on page three. Animals kill animals, you have no problem with that now do you? You don't care if a cheetah eats a deer or if a leopard eats it's young.

And just so people are sure, humans are homo sapiens which is classed as a offshoot of the ape family, meaning we are animals.
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Mihara where not able to control animals but where able to control ourselves.
 
Alana said:
I said lions are king of the jungle not us because it means they have a higher title. If we had no technology, we would NOT be at the top of the food chain I promise you we would be quite low or extinct.
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See the 'IF'? Always the 'if'. There are no 'ifs' in this world. We have technology, so we win. There's no, 'if' we didn't have technology.
 
didn't you say "I don't know what that has to do for anything, but I won't say anything more..." ?.
 
maya miyazono said:
Mihara where not able to control animals but where able to control ourselves.
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Which is why we have set laws against killing for game, which is why there are laws against poaching. Animals are generally only allowed to be killed during a certain season and even then the restrictions are very very strict. Basically, humans kill what they need to eat and nothing more most of the time.
 
And here you go again. You feel really supior don't you? I'm smarter and better than a mouse and cow. Well good for you. I have no problem with wild animals killing wild animals and not all emotion is in their nature. They not brain less drones that run on instinct alone. Now for the ifs? There are ifs in EVERYTHING. You cannot get away from them. But the point is, we are weak compaired to animals. Without our shelter and our guns we could not survive. We would die and be killed by the animals we 'govern'.
 
Mihara said:
Which is why we have set laws against killing for game, which is why there are laws against poaching. Animals are generally only allowed to be killed during a certain season and even then the restrictions are very very strict. Basically, humans kill what they need to eat and nothing more most of the time.
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Most of the time. It doesn't even kill a person to not have meat for a day or even a week. They just never try.
 
LunaticJohnny said:
THAT IS NOT TRUE

Animals they do show emotion, you can see tears in animals when they are upset or scared.

For godsake! Animals have families, how else do you think younglings are born >>
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Humans are the only species of animal that sheds tears because of emotion.
 
Jarman said:
Humans are the only species of animal that sheds tears because of emotion.
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Well there's that one type of dog, but those are only when they're in pain.
 
Wolves and other wild animals are not physically able to shed tears. But that doesn't mean they can't feel sad. When a wolf pack loses a member they show emotion by howling and feeling lost. No they can't cry. They have other ways of showing grief.
 
I know that animals do feel emotion, but Lunatic Johnny clearly said that they could shed tears when they're sad.
 
Alana said:
Wolves and other wild animals are not physically able to shed tears. But that doesn't mean they can't feel sad. When a wolf pack loses a member they show emotion by howling and feeling lost. No they can't cry. They have other ways of showing grief.
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Wolves may howl to call the pack for a hunt, to communicate on a hunt, to tell other packs to stay out of their territory, you know that they eat their dead right?

And Maya, don't tell others what to do, it's not your place.
 
So do other animals. If they aren't killed by another wolf pack or taken by a human. Yes I know they do. But they still feel grief. The best example I can think of apart from that is my cat. When ever I go over to a friends house for the night she wanders around like shes lost until I come back. She never does it other wise. So she can feel grief.

The only thing my cats eat is their food and any unlucky little critter they find. (Ussually given to us as a gift. -_-)
 
bna_li said:
Sorry.
Actually I have gone on no meat, no carbo, nothing but veggie.

Just to tell you.
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Live healthy think twice before saying something agianst animals. <3

You can have eggs if you want too. <3
 
Yeah,. And no matter what my friend says, the eggs you eat do not contain embrios and there for are not animals. :P She still won't accept that.
 
Alana said:
So do other animals. If they aren't killed by another wolf pack or taken by a human. Yes I know they do. But they still feel grief. The best example I can think of apart from that is my cat. When ever I go over to a friends house for the night she wanders around like shes lost until I come back. She never does it other wise. So she can feel grief.
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It's because you're with the thing for hours a day and then you're gone for hours, like I said housepets are usually the only type of animal that can feel emotions like sadness. And what proof do you have that wolves feel sad when one of their kind dies? You don't, it's just you stating what you think as a fact. I can't prove that they don't feel sadness, but I can put up a good argument for it because most animals don't have the right chemical balance in their brains needed to spark emotions.
 
They don't THINK.

They show no emotion. They have no families.
They band in groups. (W/E!!!)

But they do not have FAMILIES.

Only humans do.
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You have to be the stupidest person on the planet. Animals show emotion, ever seen a dog whine because it wants you to play, or because it's family (The family who 'owns' it.) leaves on Vacation? I have. I've seen a mother dog and her pups being affectionate. Have you ever seen what a mother bear will do for her cubs? Have you ever looked up wolves, or any other animal in these, 'groups'? They're like a family.

Animals are very smart. They know what they can eat, what they can't how to aviod predators, and the like.

The same people that say we evolved from monkeys say they take a few million years to evolve. But don't they all die before that? Ever been to a zoo and thought, wow, look, he's human now?
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Must I repeat myself? read my first sentance.
Animals evolved gradually, not over night. It was a gradual change.
 
I read a book and did research on wolves. I like wolves. The lady who wrote the book had been studying wolves for years. She knows what she was saying. That's how I know.
 
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