[Discussion] base stats & stuff help

[StCooler]

hi!!! long time no type!

i have two ''not new now '' pokemon regions... the swraria region & the xesse region.... that i love the kyou region is no more....

but we'll start with the swrairia region, the region made up of pokemon based on plushies :D

cause i have absolutely no clue about the stats....

Hello there,
For the starters, this is kinda easy. I'm going to teach you how to do it :)
Starters typically have the same base stats. First stage has a base total of around ~310, second stage has a base total of around ~410 and last stage has a base total of ~530.
Now you need to ask yourself these two questions for each Pokémon:

1. How balanced are its stats?
2. Considering the lore/inspiration behind this Pokémon, which stat(s) should be higher?

Also note that if the first stage has balanced stats but a somewhat high special attack, then the subsequent stages should have the same distribution.
Do it as an exercise!

 

[popplio25]

Hello there,
For the starters, this is kinda easy. I'm going to teach you how to do it :)
Starters typically have the same base stats. First stage has a base total of around ~310, second stage has a base total of around ~410 and last stage has a base total of ~530.
Now you need to ask yourself these two questions for each Pokémon:

1. How balanced are its stats?
2. Considering the lore/inspiration behind this Pokémon, which stat(s) should be higher?

Also note that if the first stage has balanced stats but a somewhat high special attack, then the subsequent stages should have the same distribution.
Do it as an exercise!

alright.... i'll give it a go...

i'm stupid with stats...

as for the 2nd question: since they're based on my plushies, i have no idea....
though.... could the answer maybe lie in the pokedex entries?






& no offense to you, but i thought that you were gonna help me like you did all that while back before...
unless i'm not seeing something... & you are

 

[StCooler]

alright.... i'll give it a go...

i'm stupid with stats...

as for the 2nd question: since they're based on my plushies, i have no idea....
though.... could the answer maybe lie in the pokedex entries?






& no offense to you, but i thought that you were gonna help me like you did all that while back before...
unless i'm not seeing something... & you are

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
"Come up with stats for Popplio and you help her for a day; teach Popplio how to come up with stats and you help her for a lifetime."

The thing is, it takes time to make up these stats, and I am sure you have hundreds of new Pokémons to give stats to. I don't have time to help you with all your Pokémons, so I want to teach you how I do. I look for similar families of Pokémons, I take their base stat totals, and based on their Pokédex descriptions (this is what I meant in mysecond question), I distribute the stats in the way that makes more sense.
For example, your Grass starter looks like a defensive Pokémon (due to its calmness) with some special ability (soothing other Pokémons). It suggests a slow Pokémon with somewhat high defensive stats and a medium-high special attack.
Now do it and I'll correct you if you want :)

I mean, you draw these Pokémons, and you come up with these wonderful Pokédex descriptions. Stat totals are far easier to come up with!

 

[popplio25]

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
"Come up with stats for Popplio and you help her for a day; teach Popplio how to come up with stats and you help her for a lifetime."
The thing is, it takes time to make up these stats,

and I am sure you have hundreds of new Pokémons to give stats to.

well... yes... Swrairia region has 118 pokemon in it so far
& the xesse region has 120 pokemon in it so far
they're my region children ^^

I don't have time to help you with all your Pokémons, so I want to teach you how I do. I look for similar families of Pokémons, I take their base stat totals, and based on their Pokédex descriptions (this is what I meant in mysecond question), I distribute the stats in the way that makes more sense.
For example, your Grass starter looks like a defensive Pokémon (due to its calmness) with some special ability (soothing other Pokémons). It suggests a slow Pokémon with somewhat high defensive stats and a medium-high special attack.
Now do it and I'll correct you if you want :)

ok, i'll try...
& that'd be great ... math's not my strong suit, so to speak 😅

I mean, you draw these Pokémons, and you come up with these wonderful Pokédex descriptions.

well, i did draw them.... that's my best trait of doing the Swrairia & xesse regions ^^
but i didn't come up with the pokedex entries myself... rekoil helped me with the pokedex entries...😅 i'm stupid with coming up with pokedex entries too....

i mean, take my old pokedex entries on some of the pokemon that i don't use anymore, that i made myself in the past... i didn't think they were any good.....

Spoiler: old pokedex entries that i made myself in the past

aenka *old ver of kyou's pika-clone - chuling*

pokedex entry: he lives in fields

he likes to eat berrys, pokepuffs & other food, he doesn't really like fighting much when he doesn't have to

he likes it best when it snows, but he can withhold mostly any weather, but he hates rain

when he's happy, he does a little squeak & does a flip and flaps his wings a little bit at the end of the flip

but when he's not feeling very happy, he let's out a high pitched squeak, but he calms down when he's petted on his tail

when he's not feeling very well, his fur sticks up a little bit & every now and then, he lets out a little stream of snowflakes from his cheeks

koguma

pokedex entry: this cute, cuddly pokemon is easily frightened and is frequantly licking it's paws which are usually covered in sweet honey

they usually have sweet natures, but sometimes, they trick people and pokemon to get what it wants, but it usually knows when to stop

they're also quite sensitive

thay evolve by moon stone, but there's an exception: some koguma don't want to evolve

ryuuka (male)

pokedex entry: he (& the female ryuuka) lives by rivers

he can sense with the bow on his neck, whether or not they mean him harm,

he can be quite kind to good people but can be a tough when it comes to bad guys

he can defend himself using safeguard or aqua tail

it's said that ryuuka (female & male) have the power to change the weather

tobuka/pinniped/ormsi *new name for tobuka*

pokedex entry:it lives by rivers

its unsure of people, sometimes (especially bad guys)

ashika *pre-evo of tobuka*

pokedex entry: when it hatches, it can't fly well (it can only hover a little bit)
it lives by rivers

it gets into trouble sometimes without its parent
it can be timid most of the time

but as it grows up and evolves, it becomes more dependent and a bit more confident, but still relys on its parent sometimes
its unsure of people, sometimes (especially bad guys)

cascata

pokedex entry: it can walk on land as well as swim in water

ryuuka (female)

pokedex entry: she lives by rivers

she can sense with the bow on her neck, whether or not they mean her harm,

she can be quite kind to good people but can be a tough when it comes to bad guys

if she sees someone walking & her baby (an ashika) is near, she'll use slam on them
but once she calms down a bit, she'll listen

it's said that ryuuka (female & male) have the power to change the weather

aibyou *from the kyou region*

old pokedex entry: it lives in fields, by rivers *this one is old*
it can also be kept as pets
it can be shy sometimes

pikinu

old pokedex entry: it can normally be kept as a pet, but it can also be caught in the wild
it has really good hearing and good eye sight, so if it sees anyone suspicious, it will run away

they are very loyal to their owners

ambfox *old name kitsula*

old pokedex entry:

it can be kept as pets
but it also lives in the mountians
it's said that when there's a eclipse, they use the moon shape on it's forehead as a flashlight
also, they use their moon shape, legs & tip of their tail to light up any room when it's dark

ikiyro

pokedex entry: *old*

it lives in caves
it likes to sneak up on people to scare them
but it doesn't mean any harm, it just wants to play

jishaku

pokedex entry: it lives in powerplants
it's said to be able to cause power outages when upset
but when happy, it glows light yellow

sanda

pokedex entry: they live in safari's

they are really playful, and don't know their own strength sometimes

they show affection for each other & other people by using nuzzle, but it ends up shocking people (not their own kind, though, because they like it)

when they get hugged too tightly, they tend to use charge

arikala *water evo of tokala*https://www.deviantart.com/akarifan25/art/069-094-arikala-asleep-and-standing-up-642320977 /

pokedex entry: it likes to nap a lot

it get nervous sometimes,

it is loyal to it's trainer

it doesn't like to battle to often, but when it does, it gives its all (or at least does its best ^^)

it usually has a timid and relaxed nature

https://www.deviantart.com/akarifan25/gallery/70753540/my-beta-pokemon-scrapped-pokemon?page=2

https://www.deviantart.com/akarifan25/gallery/59486512/oc-fan-made-pokemon

Stat totals are far easier to come up with!

do you like the swraria region starters, by the way?

 

[popplio25]

I look for similar families of Pokémons, I take their base stat totals, and based on their Pokédex descriptions (this is what I meant in mysecond question), I distribute the stats in the way that makes more sense.
For example, your Grass starter looks like a defensive Pokémon (due to its calmness) with some special ability (soothing other Pokémons).

It suggests a slow Pokémon with somewhat high defensive stats and a medium-high special attack.
Now do it and I'll correct you if you want :)

well... i've come up with something for rinemi's defense, special attack & speed

defense is : 50
special attack is: 30
speed is: 15



not sure of hp, attack or special defense, though

 

[StCooler]

do you like the swraria region starters, by the way?

I like your style, all the Pokémons you draw are very cute :)
Do you use a graphic tablet or your mouse?

well... i've come up with something for rinemi's defense, special attack & speed

defense is : 50
special attack is: 30
speed is: 15



not sure of hp, attack or special defense, though

For Rinemi, you have 310 points to spread. The average stat would be 310 / 6 = 51~52. So if the Pokémon was perfectly balanced, it would have:
HP: 51
Atk: 52
Def: 52
SpA: 52
SpD: 52
Spe: 51

(Not 52 everywhere, otherwise it would add up to 312)

But I said Rinemi would probably be defensive with some special attack. For example, you could add maybe 10 to the defensive stats, and maybe 5 to the special attack stat. But you also need to substract the same numbers somewhere else for the total to still be 310.
HP: 51 - 5 = 46
Atk: 52 - 10 = 42
Def: 52 + 10 = 62
SpA: 52 + 5 = 57
SpD: 52 + 10 = 62
Spe: 51 - 10 = 41

Note that there is a -10 for each +10 and a -5 for the +5. This is to keep the same base total.
Also I choose 5 and 10 as an example, but you can use different numbers as well. Another example of distribution with the same idea of a defensive Pokémon with some special attack could be:
HP: 51 + 5 = 56
Atk: 52 - 20 = 32
Def: 52 + 10 = 62
SpA: 52 + 5 = 57
SpD: 52 + 10 = 62
Spe: 51 - 10 = 41

310 + 5 - 20 + 10 + 5 + 10 - 10 = 310, phew, it's the same base stat total :)
This time I decided that Rimeni wouldn't use its attack, so I decreased it a lot, which let me add some HP.

Do you get the idea?

 

[popplio25]

I like your style, all the Pokémons you draw are very cute :)

thanks!

Do you use a graphic tablet or your mouse?

i use the mouse :3

For Rinemi, you have 310 points to spread. The average stat would be 310 / 6 = 51~52. So if the Pokémon was perfectly balanced, it would have:
HP: 51
Atk: 52
Def: 52
SpA: 52
SpD: 52
Spe: 51

(Not 52 everywhere, otherwise it would add up to 312)

But I said Rinemi would probably be defensive with some special attack. For example, you could add maybe 10 to the defensive stats, and maybe 5 to the special attack stat. But you also need to substract the same numbers somewhere else for the total to still be 310.
HP: 51 - 5 = 46
Atk: 52 - 10 = 42
Def: 52 + 10 = 62
SpA: 52 + 5 = 57
SpD: 52 + 10 = 62
Spe: 51 - 10 = 41

Note that there is a -10 for each +10 and a -5 for the +5. This is to keep the same base total.
Also I choose 5 and 10 as an example, but you can use different numbers as well. Another example of distribution with the same idea of a defensive Pokémon with some special attack could be:
HP: 51 + 5 = 56
Atk: 52 - 20 = 32
Def: 52 + 10 = 62
SpA: 52 + 5 = 57
SpD: 52 + 10 = 62
Spe: 51 - 10 = 41

310 + 5 - 20 + 10 + 5 + 10 - 10 = 310, phew, it's the same base stat total :)
This time I decided that Rimeni wouldn't use its attack, so I decreased it a lot, which let me add some HP.

Do you get the idea?

kinda?

would it be cheating if i used some stat from one of the existing pokemon with 310 base stat total? - https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_with_a_base_stat_total_of_310

 

[StCooler]

thanks!

i use the mouse :3

If you can get a graphic tablet, it would be easier for you to draw them :)
(Don't take one with a screen though, it's too expensive and the screen is pretty useless)

kinda?
would it be cheating if i used some stat from one of the existing pokemon with 310 base stat total? - https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_with_a_base_stat_total_of_310

No it's not cheating at all :)
I encourage you to edit these stats too, like add 5 or substract 5 to some of the stats to make them more unique :)

 

[popplio25]

If you can get a graphic tablet, it would be easier for you to draw them :)

i've been wanting to get one eventually, actually.... after i get a laptop eventually :3

(Don't take one with a screen though, it's too expensive and the screen is pretty useless)

that's not true for everyone, though, i think, that the screen is useless

No it's not cheating at all :)
I encourage you to edit these stats too, like add 5 or substract 5 to some of the stats to make them more unique :)

ok!
i mean... i'll try :>