BBC: Canada primed for snap election (Your voting too eh?)

[Netto Azure]

So...

Last night was a debate of five parties. A separatist party, two parties on the left, one centre-left, and one centre-right. Safe to say there isn't much consensus. XD

Wow CAnada had a debate AT THE SAME TIME as the US'?

Did you guys watch the US VP Debate...Much easier to choose from a two party system than a debate WITH ALL THE PARTIES (5 Wow...) in it....(Yes our 2 party system is too broad...and could easily get corrupted XP )

 

[Red1530]

Last night was a debate of five parties. A separatist party, two parties on the left, one centre-left, and one centre-right. Safe to say there isn't much consensus. XD

That must of been fun to watch. I wish that the criteria for being allowed to appear in the U.S debates were changed from having fifteen percent support in the polls to being on the ballot in two-thirds of the states. If this system was in place the Libertarian Party Vice-President nominee would been on the stage with Sen. Biden and Gov. Palin. Now that would of been entertaining.

 

[TRIFORCE89]

That wasn't even all of our parties. XD Just the ones that have seat in our House of Commons. The others don't really get a say.

And, I was a bad Canadian an watched the American debate. It wins from an entertainment standpoint. But, I recorded the Canadian one on the PVR and will be watching it today.

 

[Volkner's Apprentice]

Wow, I didn't know Canada was going through the elections too (um..I totally get out more than it seems, don't judge me >_<). It should be really interesting to see how this unfolds, especially considering the vast amount of members that are Canadian, it'll probably effect a lot of you not to mention the edges between Canada and the U.S. Hmm.

 

[Netto Azure]

Heh...

Last night was a debate of five parties. A separatist party, two parties on the left, one centre-left, and one centre-right. Safe to say there isn't much consensus. XD

I have a question Canadians? How has the Us Economic crisis affected you guys? Because here in the US it seems like the crisis is spreading world-wide. (Europeans are scrambling for stability too =D Sorry...Our fault....) Heh...

 

[suicidesal]

Yay Canadian election poll.
I actually just voted and voted NDP, I would've liked to have voted green because I like their platform the best but they have no choice whereas NDP has a good chance at being the official opposition which is good.

 

[Volkner's Apprentice]

I have a question Canadians? How has the Us Economic crisis affected you guys? Because here in the US it seems like the crisis is spreading world-wide. (Europeans are scrambling for stability too =D Sorry...Our fault....) Heh...

Haha, well it's not our fault in particular, but those business overlords who the run the joint. How hard can running Wall Street be anyway? :P

But yeah, Canadians, I'm definitely curious about this to.

 

[TRIFORCE89]

I have a question Canadians? How has the Us Economic crisis affected you guys? Because here in the US it seems like the crisis is spreading world-wide. (Europeans are scrambling for stability too =D Sorry...Our fault....) Heh...

We don't have as many major banks as you guys, but they way they are setp up and run are fundamentally different. It would be very difficult for our banking system to get itself into a similar situation. We also have a surplus, not a major deficit like the US, so should something happen we have money to spend. And spending in times of need works.

That said though, we are affected by the whole mess. You are our greatest trading partners. It works like this. We manufacture stuff and you guys buy it. But if you're not buying, then we aren't selling, and since you're our biggest partner, we take a hit. We don't have a credit crisis or a housing crisis, but our economy has slowed minimally (not in recession) because manufacturing has taken a hit - and that's because of the situation you guys are in and because our dollar is near par. It's too expensive for Americans to buy Canadian now. :c

And as an aside...this bailout is a mess. It's a very expensive bandaid. As a Canadian I know that a social democracy works but socialism should not enter the free markets. Ever. That's the whole point of a free market. At the moment a depression for the US is almost inevitable - without or without the giant bandaid and perhaps not for couple years. It may not be on the same level as the great depression, but it will be a depression. And both parties are responsible for it. This 40 year-loan nonsense started under Clinton and Bush didn't do anything to reverse that. The current administration Republican and congress is full Democrats. I don't like the idea of the bailout in general, but when the Democrats knocked down the first bill it looked like they were going to implement something better. But then they passed a worse bill. O__o All the bailout does is prolong the pain from occurring for a little bit, but it is going to hit unless changes are made - which neither candidate will probably do effectively.

 

[Netto Azure]

ok...

We don't have as many major banks as you guys, but they way they are setp up and run are fundamentally different. It would be very difficult for our banking system to get itself into a similar situation. We also have a surplus, not a major deficit like the US, so should something happen we have money to spend. And spending in times of need works.

That said though, we are affected by the whole mess. You are our greatest trading partners. It works like this. We manufacture stuff and you guys buy it. But if you're not buying, then we aren't selling, and since you're our biggest partner, we take a hit. We don't have a credit crisis or a housing crisis, but our economy has slowed minimally (not in recession) because manufacturing has taken a hit - and that's because of the situation you guys are in and because our dollar is near par. It's too expensive for Americans to buy Canadian now. :c

And as an aside...this bailout is a mess. It's a very expensive bandaid. As a Canadian I know that a social democracy works but socialism should not enter the free markets. Ever. That's the whole point of a free market. At the moment a depression for the US is almost inevitable - without or without the giant bandaid and perhaps not for couple years. It may not be on the same level as the great depression, but it will be a depression. And both parties are responsible for it. This 40 year-loan nonsense started under Clinton and Bush didn't do anything to reverse that. The current administration Republican and congress is full Democrats. I don't like the idea of the bailout in general, but when the Democrats knocked down the first bill it looked like they were going to implement something better. But then they passed a worse bill. O__o All the bailout does is prolong the pain from occurring for a little bit, but it is going to hit unless changes are made - which neither candidate will probably do effectively.

Sorry for not being able to reply, some "things" came up that ruined my reply tempo. I agree with you that a social democracy works, and yet we also need to protect the free market. (With responsible restrictions of course as we see is needed during this particular economic times) Yes, both US Major Parties are to blame for this current mess were in. It's just that were humans, were influenced by a lot of things. The Democrats I support because of the well, lets just say, "things" that occured during the past 8 years, even this month. Well yes the bailout tacked on another $150 Billion US, just in order to get it passed. The powers that be declared that we need it so the "sweeteners" were added to get Both of the parties to pass it.

Anyways as I have said in the "other" thread I now support the Conservative Party of Canada. I checked the platforms of the three major parties (Liberal, Conservative, maybe NDP) and I beleive that the Canadian people can afford to "Stay the course" as the Conservatives put it since you have a large budget surplus. Seriously you Canadians are lucky since you don't really have to worry about Defense Budget since the US is right next to you. I understand that yes, you are supporting the Afgan "Mission" and are pulling out on 2011. The estimate that came out 2 days ago on the entire cost of the conflict for Canada was $18 Billion. Compared to the US Military expenditure for both Afganistan and Iraq you guys are lucky.

So yes, you guys have the wiggle room to weather this financial crisis and with the Conservatives willing to keep the taxes as they are and using the surplus to invest on the West and manufacturing which can spur growth. I usually lean left but I can support this due to your surplus. You Canadians should be happy. :D

 

[TRIFORCE89]

It'd be nice if we didn't rely on you guys for defence though. Our military is like...two tugboats and a rubber ducky.

 

[Netto Azure]

Eh...

It'd be nice if we didn't rely on you guys for defence though. Our military is like...two tugboats and a rubber ducky.

ROTFL...:P :P :P don't worry read "World War Z" we'll "protect" you *smacks head* heh...>_> But yes, in an ideal world you guys should be emulated. But eh the world is grey as sims796 keeps cramming down my throat.

 

[TRIFORCE89]

Sorry for not being able to reply, some "things" came up that ruined my reply tempo. I agree with you that a social democracy works, and yet we also need to protect the free market. (With responsible restrictions of course as we see is needed during this particular economic times) Yes, both US Major Parties are to blame for this current mess were in. It's just that were humans, were influenced by a lot of things. The Democrats I support because of the well, lets just say, "things" that occured during the past 8 years, even this month. Well yes the bailout tacked on another $150 Billion US, just in order to get it passed. The powers that be declared that we need it so the "sweeteners" were added to get Both of the parties to pass it.

Anyways as I have said in the "other" thread I now support the Conservative Party of Canada. I checked the platforms of the three major parties (Liberal, Conservative, maybe NDP) and I beleive that the Canadian people can afford to "Stay the course" as the Conservatives put it since you have a large budget surplus. Seriously you Canadians are lucky since you don't really have to worry about Defense Budget since the US is right next to you. I understand that yes, you are supporting the Afgan "Mission" and are pulling out on 2011. The estimate that came out 2 days ago on the entire cost of the conflict for Canada was $18 Billion. Compared to the US Military expenditure for both Afganistan and Iraq you guys are lucky.

So yes, you guys have the wiggle room to weather this financial crisis and with the Conservatives willing to keep the taxes as they are and using the surplus to invest on the West and manufacturing which can spur growth. I usually lean left but I can support this due to your surplus. You Canadians should be happy. :D

Our banks have been ranked 1 and 2 the last few years in terms of soundness. I think the US was ranked around 43 or something.

Anyway, so you've read the platforms. What do you think of the Liberal Green Shift?

 

[Netto Azure]

Hm...

Our banks have been ranked 1 and 2 the last few years in terms of soundness. I think the US was ranked around 43 or something.

Anyway, so you've read the platforms. What do you think of the Liberal Green Shift?

I would support it if the Global Economy was not in a general recession. With Canada increasing in the manufacturing industry, the Green shift plan is not feesable in these uncertain economic times. A tax-balancing act for the carbon tax is just too risky. But withrawing from the Kyoto Treaty I think was bad decision (Yet realistic though after being neglected so much) I mean Climate Change is one of my Major Issues but the economy has flattened other issues like a flapjack.

Edit; So you guys are voting next week. Which party does it look like, that is going to get the majority (Finally!)

 

[TRIFORCE89]

I don't think there will be a majority. I think the Conservatives will win a minority again, but there will be a decreased Liberal presence in the House of Commons. The NDP I can see gaining more seats than the usually do or even becoming the opposition party.

 

[Netto Azure]

Eh...

I don't think there will be a majority. I think the Conservatives will win a minority again, but there will be a decreased Liberal presence in the House of Commons. The NDP I can see gaining more seats than the usually do or even becoming the opposition party.

Another Minority? Wasn't the reason for this snap election was that you guys can't compromise due to the Conservative minority government, with the Liberals beng hard-lined on things.

 

[LilLoveGirl]

I don't know about Candad much really.

 

[TRIFORCE89]

Two days left. Harper's trying to regain some votes he's probably lost in Quebec because of Bloc and Liberal campaigns. To paraphrase, "Look, just because I'm a Conservative doesn't mean I'm George Bush. And, it doesn't mean I'm a big oil man any more than being from Quebec makes you an expert on Maple Syrup. I'm not this cold, emotionless person - which is the picture the opposition is trying to paint of me. I'm probably the most middle-class Prime Minister this country has ever had."

On the Dion front...Just yesterday he said that anything he promised in the last week he probably can't fulfil. It just dawned on him what the global economy is like. XD "Do you think it is easy to make priorities?"

 

[Netto Azure]

Oh...

Two days left. Harper's trying to regain some votes he's probably lost in Quebec because of Bloc and Liberal campaigns. To paraphrase, "Look, just because I'm a Conservative doesn't mean I'm George Bush. And, it doesn't mean I'm a big oil man any more than being from Quebec makes you an expert on Maple Syrup. I'm not this cold, emotionless person - which is the picture the opposition is trying to paint of me. I'm probably the most middle-class Prime Minister this country has ever had."

On the Dion front...Just yesterday he said that anything he promised in the last week he probably can't fulfill. It just dawned on him what the global economy is like. XD "Do you think it is easy to make priorities?"

Oh my...I've heard about the "cold persona" campaign the Liberals are running...Heh...Tying the Conservatives to Bush? Reminds me of something similar in the US campaign >.<
Wow...The Liberals actually admitted to abandoning some of their campaign promises due to the General Global Recession. :D It might lose them some seats but at least they are showing that they are not out of touch with the current Economic Reality, unlike some other US major political party candidates that I know of. Wow, your political parties are actually being realistic. Hay, if only the US campaign could be more like that, realistic, rather than devolving to obvious negative smear campaigns. I would probably trust them more. If one of the US candidates finally admits that his hands are tied due to the economy that might be the "October Surprise."

We should ask that to the US candidates: "Do you think it's easy to make priorities?" :P I'm sure they are just going to answer as if this was still the primaries and that ALL campaign promises would be MAGICALLY initiated.

Oh well I'm supporting the Conservatives as you know since these economic times call for some government belt-tightening. :D

Wow...you guys are lucky, just two more days...For us here in the US it's still 3 more weeks of enduring negative smear attack ads...D=

 

[TRIFORCE89]

Okay Canadians. Today's the day in case you can't figure out Google'ca logo today. If you're old enough to vote, go do it.

 

[Cherrim]

I'll be voting right after work assuming I managed to bring the right documents, which I kinda doubt since all those radio commercials seemed to imply simple ID wouldn't be enough. 8/ Regardless, it will be done later today. I hope I can get everything I need to do out of the way fast enough to watch the results later today.