I have to go with Chimchar, Monferno, and Infernape. I know of a LOT of people who rage on about the poor thing(s), calling it a "rip-off" of Torchic, Combusken, and Blaziken. To them, I say "shut up." Chimchar doesn't deserve aall that rage thrown at it, in my eyes. I see it as another good starter, and I happen to like Torchic, too. If you're calling Chimchar a rip-off of Torchic, then why aren't you calling Spiritomb a Sableye rip-off? I never hear anyone rage on that. All that stuff annoys me, and personaly just use them both and get maximum possible enjoyment out of the games.