Breaker is Banned!

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    I hope I'm the first to notice this but the new format is on the Upper Deck site.

    https://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx

    WTF...
    Graceful Charity is banned again (there goes my Peten the Dark Clown combo) as well as Magician of Faith.

    Exiled Force is allowed in 3s now probably because Last Will is now banned. :(

    Snatch Steal is now a legal card again.

    Mind Crush is limited probably because of its compatibility with Dark World. Or possibly because it screws up Gadget decks real bad.

    Check the rest out yourself. Also, if you're wondering why I said Breaker in the title, it's because it was the first card I noticed was banned. :P

    It's time for some serious deck changes.
     
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    12 hours late?

    Gadgets still have the top tier edge in the game. Nothing has changed.
     
    Nyu, looks like they're cracking down on the splash cards hard. I mean, Breaker and Graceful Charity are the two cards that you practically always run into. I'm half surprised that they didn't cut D.D Warrior Lady or Morhping Jar while they were at it. xP

    Anyway, that really sucks about Magician of Faith being banned too. The Apprentice Magician engine just took a blow, not to mention Darkworld with the loss of one of their key cards (Graceful Charity).

    Phoenix on the other hand has been unrestricted, I see, guess that's official support for the phoenix acting as the main gadget counter. Poor Graceful Charity, though...there goes my favourite card. I sure hope the new boosters bring something to compensate. -.-

    By the way, gadgets don't get total control because of the Six Samurai line. particularly Great Shogun Shien which only lets your opponent activate one spell or trap each turn and can sacrifice any six samurai monster on your field instead of being destroyed itself (Meaning that as long as you can keep pumping out those little samurais the gadget player is screwed). Plus, with two Six Samurai monsters on your field it's a free special summon so it's not even very hard to get out. Yay for preview cards. :3
     
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    Man that BITES! My Spellcaster deck (which I got/made today!) just took a hit. 3 cards gone from it... I guess it's not too bad. Might just replace Breaker with a 3rd Skilled Dark Magician.
     
    I can't believe this...Lily and Phoenix are suddenly unlimited, Mask is up to two, and MoF is GONE...this isn't going to last through the next list without replacement.
     
    I like the vast majority of this list, actually, except I despise how once again, it's overkill... they want to crack down on Chimeratech, so they destroy every single piece of it, including dimension fusion and overload fusion. >_<; just kill off Chimeratech and simply unrestrict all the other pieces then so E-heroes can finally do something...

    As for Gadgets who'll complete their setup now that Shrink is possible at doubles just like the japanese except for Golden Chest/Messenger of Hades (both restricted to 1 I believe anyway, so not big of a loss), I think that it'll still have competition, unlike Chaos Sorcerer's absolute triumph in its days. Anti-trap monsters are still hurting Gadgets badly, who really got nothing but shrink in those cases. Flipping the Mat (whatever it's called in English... I forgot) will completely be the perfect trap choice for Gadgets together with Monarchs, making it a popular sidedeck choice for at least one SJC... Really, not fair to say Gadgets will automatically get a seat in the top 8 so early. It may, and it may not. I personally guess that it will, but I won't be "oh they WILL be tier 1 again".
     
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    Seriously the ban list is jsut out of hand...
     
    Akio123 said:
    Seriously the ban list is jsut out of hand...
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    But Breaker itself well deserves to be thrown into the list for its high attack power and its ability to almost always get a +1 out of everything except for the trap holes and Flipping the Mat... potential +2 if Breaker can beat a monster then use token as well. Broken? Yes... >>;

    More surprised how Mind Crush got on the list, even though I know how every trap lineup in Japan is Trap Dustshoot x3/Mind Crush x3. As if people will still use them now that Messenger of Hades is down to 1 o_O;
     
    I was referin gto Magician of Faith and Graceful charity. As for Breaker, it seems Upper deck is banning every card without a negative effect.
     
    Akio123 said:
    I was referin gto Magician of Faith and Graceful charity. As for Breaker, it seems Upper deck is banning every card without a negative effect.
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    Magician of Faith is mostly due to the reusing Golden Chest of Sealing, which is darn scary if you're familiar with Golden Chest of Sealing's power. TCG wise, yes it doesn't really make much sense... but since we're using OCG's banlist...

    Graceful Charity is banned in preparation of Dark World Dealing in triples for DW Deck along with your morphing jar, card destruction, dark world lightning, and dark deal (overlooked trap card that would've screwed Gadgets over and back.) Plus, Combo decks also benefit from Dark World Dealing too. Not to mention, Diamond Dude Turbo can still exist even with Messenger of Hades at one, and that evil combo uses Destiny Draw in triples already... do you really want them to draw another 3 cards out of Graceful Charity >>; Doesn't affect me overly much if we lose splashable drawing power.

    (we *still* got card gunner coming very soon, and that thing is pure evil)

    Really, the banlist got plenty of merits except for Snatch Steal, which I don't get at all... along with trying to let Chimeratech live while killing off every single component of its possible.
     
    Personally, I don't understand why they'd ban Graceful Charity, it kinda defeats the purpose of the card in a way... >> I dunno how I can really explain that, but it does. ^^;

    Also, whats with the all the banning, un-banning, and re-banning again?
    What if not everyone can keep up with that? ><;;
     
    I'm fine if Graceful stayed, but won't be pissed off either if it's gone as I do see some merits to banning it o.o;

    Eh, Exiled Force only allows warrior toolbox to have full control over facedown, and gives Rat even more stuff to use... but why you're going to use 3 Exiled Force is beyond me. There's only so few decks that can use all 3 effectively anyway...

    *is still peeved about Snatch Steal coming back*
     
    Frostweaver said:
    I'm fine if Graceful stayed, but won't be pissed off either if it's gone as I do see some merits to banning it o.o;

    Eh, Exiled Force only allows warrior toolbox to have full control over facedown, and gives Rat even more stuff to use... but why you're going to use 3 Exiled Force is beyond me. There's only so few decks that can use all 3 effectively anyway...

    *is still peeved about Snatch Steal coming back*
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    Burn decks will have a use for 3 Exiled Force.

    Snatch Steal can be a counter against Phoenix.
     
    MegaDitto said:
    Snatch Steal can be a counter against Phoenix.
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    It can also help Phoenix (counter with Mirror Force or a later Smashing Ground/Exiled)

    ...THAT'S why Exiled's at 3--to help abuse Phoenix!
     
    Explain to me why they even make the cards if they are going to ban them!!

    I haven't played ygo in quite a while, but I do know of some of these cards, and I couldn't beat anyone with any of them (ya, I was that bad :P) yet, I know that when used right, they are dangerous cards, but if they are created, printed, and shipped out, they should be allowed, am I right??
     
    RMXPUser462 said:
    Explain to me why they even make the cards if they are going to ban them!!

    I haven't played ygo in quite a while, but I do know of some of these cards, and I couldn't beat anyone with any of them (ya, I was that bad :P) yet, I know that when used right, they are dangerous cards, but if they are created, printed, and shipped out, they should be allowed, am I right??
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    In theory, yes, all the cards made are suppose to be at least playable in 1. Some cards that are made have to be limited or semi-limited due to their sheer power, and also things are less dull if you can only run selective cards in one or two.

    But then, not all the time can designs be so perfect =x
     
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