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Brock

Bolanboy

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    the flirt issue is the exact reason why we Heterosexuals are placed in a very horrible position. I'm a virgin, I don't plan on having sex with a girl until I get married, I want to actually respect women, but as long as that stereotype/mindset of society exists, I'll still be plagued with society as a whole thinking that either a man has to sleep with or hit on countless women or that man is gay. It's sad times.

    Heterosexual males do hit on females they find attractive, there is nothing stereotypical about it. Just because you don't puts you in the minority.
     

    Raiskit

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    Brock leaving would be a nice change, but he's a great character and everything. It would be sad to see him go and be replaced, less he was replaced by Tracey. Then it would be okay. :D
     

    sirboulevard

    Apricorn Maniac
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    I think Brock should go and be replaced with Misty, mainly because he hasn't gotten any character development. He hasn't actually bred a pokemon despite being a pokemon breeder. Plus as much as I love the classic anime flirt, 13 years of it should have resulted in a GF by now. Being the oldest and wisest doesn't seem to have helped Ash at all. Hes been traveling for a while now, you'd think he'd buy food, learn to scavange for food when hes out and all that Brock knows as a former Gym Leader. I say he should be replaced with Misty because she underwent a ton of character development in just her 4 HOSO episodes. And as some other people pointed out, they didnt starve when it was just Ash and Misty or Ash, Misty and Tracey, so im sure she knows how to make food. Plus as a current Gym Leader, she might actually train him in new strategies.

    For the third person however, they should bring in the next male PC. I was upset that Jimmy only had a made-for-tv movie and Brendan & Lucas were demoted further to cameos.
     
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    Heterosexual males do hit on females they find attractive, there is nothing stereotypical about it. Just because you don't puts you in the minority.

    You're not getting it, are you? All right. Allow me to show you some examples of what I'm referring to (and Brock is part of these guys, make no mistake about that):

    Glenn Quagmire
    Charlie Harper
    Oolong
    Master Roshi
    Brody Mitchum
    Gaston
    etc. etc.

    Those guys, who basically hit on women a lot, and viewing them as nothing more than mere sex objects. I don't wish to act like them, so I try to control (ie, supress) my heterosexual urges so I don't act like them. However, it also relegates to a paranoic mind-battle between society's twisted ways and trying to treat women with respect, as society seemed to think that I HAVE to act like the above men (either by reading porn or actually doing it with every female) or I must be gay (even though I have never had a crush or a sexual attraction on a guy in my life, not even once.). Something similar happened on the Two and a Half Men episode Tucked Taped and Gorgeous, where Alan is constantly getting grief from his friend and loved ones about "coming out of the closet" and concluding that he is homosexual just because he had rotten luck with women especially compared with his brother. Let's not forget the General Blue Saga where Bulma and Krillin concluded that General Blue must have been homosexual just because he was never attracted to Bulma at all (since when does not being attracted to one woman out of 3.2 billion females in the population even hint at being gay? Granted, if he had started flirting with Krillin or Goku, that's one thing, or if he tried to find out every single woman in the world and he had no attraction whatsoever, also one thing.). I mean, I know I'm straight, and that I'll never change (my orientation is already prewritten into my DNA), but does that really mean I have to act exactly like the stereotypical heterosexuals listed above? I'm christian, I hate objectifying women for their bodies (which, sadly, society as a whole seems to think a male has to objectify a female's body and hang out with/"play with" her until he gets bored (and vice versa) in order to be considered heterosexual.). This is always painful to me having to witness this. I wish we heterosexuals actually respected women rather than view them/their bodies as being objects to toy around with.
     
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    That's why Brock is rejected though. That is why Croagunk, Max, and the talented Misty pull him away from women. He's not supposed be like that. It's not real love. It's infatuation. Until he stops hitting on practically every woman he sees, he can't get a girlfriend. :/ If the writers are going to keep having him on the show, at least have him work towards his goal in a few episodes.

    Well, to me, that behavior should not even exist at all. Hence why I want him to be removed. Besides, will kids truly know the difference? As far as I can tell, even IF it is done so the character gets punished for it, the kids will still emulate it anyways. I know a cousin who emulated a certain phrase from one of the "Pointdexter" movies (and I'm probably going to get infracted for saying this, but... "Hey Pointdexter, do you wanna ****?"), and, look, I never saw the movie or the incident, so I don't know whether the guy/girl was punished onscreen for doing that/saying that, but whatever the case, the end result was the same, she emulated this phrase, nearly having my Aunt crash her car from the shock of hearing as well as a severe tongue lashing. I also remember a FoxTrot cartoon where Paige Fox was babysitting Katie O'Dell and she decided to watch Jerzy Spaniel and thanks to that, the kid started emulating a certain swear word/phrase ("You two-timing #!@!!"), and even though the context was supposed to be in a punishable manner, it still resulted in her charge learning "a new word" if you know what I mean.
     
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    Bolanboy

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    You're not getting it, are you? All right. Allow me to show you some examples of what I'm referring to (and Brock is part of these guys, make no mistake about that):

    Glenn Quagmire
    Charlie Harper
    Oolong
    Master Roshi
    Brody Mitchum
    Gaston
    etc. etc.

    Those guys, who basically hit on women a lot, and viewing them as nothing more than mere sex objects. I don't wish to act like them, so I try to control (ie, supress) my heterosexual urges so I don't act like them. However, it also relegates to a paranoic mind-battle between society's twisted ways and trying to treat women with respect, as society seemed to think that I HAVE to act like the above men (either by reading porn or actually doing it with every female) or I must be gay (even though I have never had a crush or a sexual attraction on a guy in my life, not even once.). Something similar happened on the Two and a Half Men episode Tucked Taped and Gorgeous, where Alan is constantly getting grief from his friend and loved ones about "coming out of the closet" and concluding that he is homosexual just because he had rotten luck with women especially compared with his brother. Let's not forget the General Blue Saga where Bulma and Krillin concluded that General Blue must have been homosexual just because he was never attracted to Bulma at all (since when does not being attracted to one woman out of 3.2 billion females in the population even hint at being gay? Granted, if he had started flirting with Krillin or Goku, that's one thing, or if he tried to find out every single woman in the world and he had no attraction whatsoever, also one thing.). I mean, I know I'm straight, and that I'll never change (my orientation is already prewritten into my DNA), but does that really mean I have to act exactly like the stereotypical heterosexuals listed above? I'm christian, I hate objectifying women for their bodies (which, sadly, society as a whole seems to think a male has to objectify a female's body and hang out with/"play with" her until he gets bored (and vice versa) in order to be considered heterosexual.). This is always painful to me having to witness this. I wish we heterosexuals actually respected women rather than view them/their bodies as being objects to toy around with.

    I'm not reading all that, but what I will say is, because I can tell what your reply was, is that you took no notice of the fact that you are in a minority. Thanks and good luck in your future endeavours.

    Sincerely,
    Common Sense.
     
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    I say give Misty another shot at doing absolutely nothing. Brock's been doing it for too long. I wouldn't mind seeing Tracey again, either.

    Or, you know, make a new character who actually does something. Or just let Ash and the generic replaceable contest girl do their thing alone.
     
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    I say give Misty another shot at doing absolutely nothing. Brock's been doing it for too long. I wouldn't mind seeing Tracey again, either.

    Or, you know, make a new character who actually does something. Or just let Ash and the generic replaceable contest girl do their thing alone.

    "Absolutely nothing?" Misty hadn't done "absolutely nothing" actually it was far from it.
     

    Mew~

    THE HOST IS BROKEN
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    "Absolutely nothing?" Misty hadn't done "absolutely nothing" actually it was far from it.
    Brock did more then her... XD She just followed them... @.@ stalker O.O

    If anyone was going to cme back and anyone would leave (which will never happen) i would keep brock, chuck any new girl and bring misty back :) The old trio back together! Or maybe everyone could travel together :) Ash could ask gary if he can borrow that car of his!!! Wouldnt that be fun :) (im not quite sure if im being sarcastic there... i kinda am... but the idea kinda makes me want it to happen XD)
     

    Semidos

    Misty Fan Forever
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    If they take away Borck, I will stop watching the show. Period.
    I did the same, when Misty left. Like thousands other people. And writers don't see that. In Brock's case would be similary.
     
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    Brock did more then her... XD She just followed them... @.@ stalker O.O

    Actually, Brock's more of the stalker. I already gave a list of what Misty did in her career in the main cast, and that list wasn't even half of the exact amount. Plus, she did far more than Brock in Johto anyways.

    If anyone was going to cme back and anyone would leave (which will never happen) i would keep brock, chuck any new girl and bring misty back :) The old trio back together! Or maybe everyone could travel together :) Ash could ask gary if he can borrow that car of his!!! Wouldnt that be fun :) (im not quite sure if im being sarcastic there... i kinda am... but the idea kinda makes me want it to happen XD)

    Well, my viewpoint on Brock still stands. I'll consider him staying if the writers (and Brock) do one of two things with him: 1. get rid of that girl gag, and 2. actually have him WORK to his supposed goal (or, if his goal isn't the same kind of breeder as that of the anime, then actually GIVE a proper definition for that goal so we at least know what the heck it is supposed to be. The same goes for Ash as well, as honestly, I feel that it's pointless doing a goal that isn't even given a definition. I mean, I've been at school, and have been given assignments that actually ARE defined. Ash's goal of being a Pokemon Master has never been given a concrete definition.)
     

    Edelweiss

    Oh so conventional
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    Brock should be the hero in this series instead of Ash. He's more capable and far more mature than any other "main" the show ever had.
     
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    I don't mind Brock. It'd be nice if he did more about becoming a breeder, since pokemon episodes are taken up by 25% travelling, 50% team rocket doing something predictable, and 25% of Actual Plot.

    The one thing I want to see: a female main character who isn't a Coordinator. Seriously now, contests are obviously meant to appeal to girls because they are like battles but "prettier". As a girl myself I find it irritating that there isn't a girl in the group who is as experienced as Ash and who can battle him in Real Battles, not contests. I know how Buizel felt.
     
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