Building a Computer: What I need to know?

To be fair my eyes glazed over when I read your recommendation of a prebuilt computer. CoolerMaster PSUs aren't great, but at least they're branded, so there's a certain degree of quality. Overclocking doesn't necessarily reduce lifespan of a product. Hell, most hardware these days is marketed as overclockable. :P

And my comment was aimed mostly at BenRK, not you.
 
Eureka1 said:
To be fair my eyes glazed over when I read your recommendation of a prebuilt computer. CoolerMaster PSUs aren't great, but at least they're branded, so there's a certain degree of quality. Overclocking doesn't necessarily reduce lifespan of a product. Hell, most hardware these days is marketed as overclockable. :P

And my comment was aimed mostly at BenRK, not you.
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I know... but that was a generalized statement. I know many computer-illiterates (and in some cases, that's putting it lightly) my age, and I wanted to point out how generalized that statement was.
 
That may be so, but an hours worth of reading up on the internet would change that.
 
I don't believe that the PSU isn't important. Just about every part of a computer is important, I just don't believe it's the most important part. A PSU can easily be replaced if it fails without having to rebuild your computer. Almost every part can easily be replaced if they fail EXCEPT the motherboard. If your motherboard fails, you literally have to tare your computer apart to put a new one in, risking frying other parts without care if you can even use some of them with a new motherboard. The motherboard dictates what parts you can use and the speed of those parts, heck, it even tells you what kind of case to use (good luck fitting that huge motherboard into that tiny case). The PSU, on the other hand, only gives power to your computer. Yes, important, but what good is a high end PSU inside a computer with a motherboard that only has PCI slots and is stuck with out dated RAM and a CPU socket?

As for you being a girl, I honestly don't care if you are. I've known girls who are in to computers just as much as we are, I've talked to them about hardware configurations and games and what not long before I even joined this site, not to mention I have a local friend who I talk to all the time, sharing information and speculating on super computers that we would want to build if we had the money.

I've had an interest in computers and what they could do since my family first got a Windows computer back in 1997. I didn't have knowledge of the hardware until I was older of course, and in my sophomore year of high school, I took an A+ class which included assembling computers (that was a fun year). Early on, I believed that if you're going to build a computer, it should be as powerful as you can make it right from the start, but as time went on, I've learned that the important thing is a computers upgrade ability, which ties into the motherboard. I don't intend to get a different motherboard until I start a new build from scratch, which may not happen for a while, as this computer is young and still has a lot of life left. Yes, as I've said before, the PSU will be one of the first internal things I will replace (I REALLY need new speakers ASAP), and the hardest part in replacing it shall be figuring out where everything is plugged in, but until then, it's serving me fine with no problems.

By the way, it's not like I just go out and buy parts on impulse.
 
An A+ certification is worth nothing, I know kids who get them. You fail to see that had you bought a good PSU in the first place, you wouldn't NEED to replace it. You also don't run the risk of the PSU taking other component with it, such as the motherboard and RAM.

An outdated computer such as that wouldn't require a high quality PSU, so I'm not sure what you're getting at with that point.
 
All I can see is a ton of uninformed opinions. apple.SHAMPOO replies pretty much perfectly.
 
Just stop, ok? You can go live by your PSU 100% life, that's fine by me. I don't agree with you, but that doesn't mean you have to get your panties in a knot. We all agree that all parts of a computer are important to the computer it self, which part we think is the most important is different between us. You think the PSU is the most important, I think the motherboard is the most important. Someone could just as easily come up and say that the CPU is the most important, or the hard drive, or hell, even the case.

To even things out, I was on a budget, I never intended to stick with this hardware configuration for the entire life of this computer, knowing that upgrade ability is important, I did plenty of research and chose the best I could with the budget via Newegg, I had plenty of input along the way, I need new speakers, and I'm perfectly fine with girls liking computers too.

So in conclusion, shut up, enough about this, lets move on.
 
Eureka1 said:
All I can see is a ton of uninformed opinions. apple.SHAMPOO replies pretty much perfectly.
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*sigh* There are plenty of people offering good advice in this thread.

BenRK said:
shut up
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Nice guy.

Anyway, the PSU is important to the extent that if you get a crappy one, you might suddenly be out a lot of cash or data. I'd recommend you get one that's about 100 or 200 watts above whatever your minimum power requirement is; this will give you a bit of leeway to work with (in case you want to upgrade or add hardware later, for instance). In my experience, 600 to 800 watts is usually plenty, unless you've got a lot of fancy hardware. And while I do recommend going with a good brand name for your PSU, don't just buy the most expensive one, either. Find something highly rated and reasonably priced and use that.
 
BenRK said:
I know, I'm the best guy in the world.
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Kids like you are a dime a dozen. Hopefully it won't take too much longer before you realize you're going to need to stop being such a douche or else you're gonna have zero friends here. Or maybe you'll just leave~
 
This thread made me lol.

To the person who doesn't believe in PSU, why not take yours out and live without for the rest of your life since it isn't important
 
I'm really surprised people don't read my posts. Yet again, I never said the PSU wasn't important, I said it wasn't the most important part, and made a lengthy argument explaining why I believe the motherboard is the most important part, while saying, many times, that I do intend to get a PSU from a more trusted brand in the future, and even explained why I had to get a cheaper one for my build. I've said many times that I agree that it's important, just not the single most important part of a computer. So, if you want to keep ignoring my posts, that's fine, I'll just keep repeating what I've said till you die of boredom.

apple.SHAMPOO, I want to quote my friend who I've been chatting with and sharing this thread with. He's the same enthusiast I've mentioned many times, and see's both sides of the argument. I can't quote what he said word for word, as that would probably get me banned (and I know how much you want that), so here's a significantly edited version of what he said about you.

him said:
ARRRRRGH! I'm not reading this thread anymore. (REALLY bad profanity that can be shortened to "Because of apple.SHAMPOO")
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me said:
Why's that?
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him said:
Her caustically pretentious attitude. Even if you know more then someone or not, you shouldn't be such a (profanity) about it.
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He then proceeds to quote a post of yours in disgust.
me said:
At least I'm getting along with donavannj.
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him said:
I dunno, it's just that pretentious people piss me the (Profanity) off. that is my NUMBER ONE hot button!
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In short, I highly doubt that attitude is going to win friends just as much as my blunt attitude is, regardless of previous forum history.

So, again, I repeat, shut up, enough about this, lets move on.
 
twocows said:
In my experience, 600 to 800 watts is usually plenty, unless you've got a lot of fancy hardware. And while I do recommend going with a good brand name for your PSU, don't just buy the most expensive one, either. Find something highly rated and reasonably priced and use that.
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No, 600 - 800w is plenty if you have fancy hardware. It may be a good idea to future proof your purchase, but if you're on a budget going as high as 800w is a bit ridiculous unless you're going to have more than two GPUs and CPUs installed.

BenRK, cool story bro.
 
BenRK said:
tl;dr.
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Oh, the mythical out-side-friend to back you up. Haven't heart THAT one before!

Anyway; wattage is far less important than the ability to maintain stable voltages and the amperage on the rails~
 
Zet is right~
pre⋅ten⋅tious /prɪˈtɛn
[PokeCommunity.com] Building a Computer: What I need to know?
ʃəs/ [pri-ten-shuh
[PokeCommunity.com] Building a Computer: What I need to know?
s] –adjective
1. full of pretense or pretension.

pre⋅ten⋅sion/prɪˈtɛn
[PokeCommunity.com] Building a Computer: What I need to know?
ʃən/ [pri-ten-shuh
[PokeCommunity.com] Building a Computer: What I need to know?
n] –noun
6. the act of pretending or alleging.

As in; you PRETEND to know what you're talking about. When you clearly know very little~
 
BenRK said:
Why am I not surprised...?

If you want to talk to said friend, you'll have to wait till tomorrow, in the afternoon. PST. When he gets out of school. And gives me his permission to share his MSN, at which point he'll probably cuss you out, so don't say I didn't warn you.
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I have friends who have used computers for longer than I have been alive, your said friend knowns jacks apparently.
 
...what?

Look, apparently trying to get you guys to stop on this thread isn't working. So if you wish to complain more about my opinions on motherboard VS. PSU, PM me, as we're significantly off topic.
 
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