Can't decide which team to use!

[GhostTypeLover]

I'm torn between 2 teams I want to use, would it just be easier to use 1 for competitive and the other for casual play?

Team 1:

Absol
Adamant
Item: Absolite
EV: 252 atk/252 Spd/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but sp.atk
Moves: Stone edge, play rough, Night slash, shadow claw
Ability: Justified

Ferrothorn
Relaxed
Item: Rocky helmet
EV: 252 Def/252 Atk/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but speed
Moves: gyro ball, power whip, iron defense, iron head
Ability: iron barbs

Azumarill
Adamant
Item: Assault vest
EV: 252 atk/ 252 HP/ 4 Def
IV: 31 all but Sp.Atk
Moves: play rough, Waterfall, superpower, Aqua tail
Ability: huge power

Salamence
Adamant
Item: Life orb
EV: 252 Atk/252 Spd/ 4 HP
IV:31 on all but sp.atk
Moves: dragon dance, dragon rush, Aerial ace, fire fang
Ability: Moxie

Magmortar
Naive
Item: Life orb
EV: 252 atk/252 sp.atk/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but Sp.Def
Moves: Lava plume, thunder punch, earthquake, flamethrower
Ability: Vital spirit

Klefki
Calm
Item: leftovers
EV: 252 Def/252 Sp.Def/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Moves: Spikes, Foul play, Toxic, swagger

And as for the 2nd team, I want it to be mono-ghost but not sure what to use except these 2.

Aegislash
Quiet
Item: weakness policy
EV: 252 Sp.atk/252 HP/4 Atk
IV: 31 on all but speed
Moves: Sacred sword, Flash cannon, shadow ball, King shield

Chandelure
Modest
Item: Life orb
EV: 252 Sp.atk/252 Spd/ 4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Moves: Heat wave, Shadow ball, Psychic, minimize
Ability: Infiltrator

What should the other 4 be? And would it be easier using mono ghost for casual while the mix for comp?

 

[Nah]

I have some minor issues with your sets but that's not what this thread is about so....

Use the first one for competitive play. The type variety is very much needed to succeed in standard battling environments. Going monotype works better for casual runs or if playing on Smogon's monotype ladder and/or in monotype tournaments. Not that you couldn't do well with a monotype team in a non-monotype meta, just that it'd be significantly harder and why make shit harder for yourself than you have to?

Also put Gengar on the second team. Gengar is one of the best Ghost types right now.

 

[GhostTypeLover]

I have some minor issues with your sets but that's not what this thread is about so....

Use the first one for competitive play. The type variety is very much needed to succeed in standard battling environments. Going monotype works better for casual runs or if playing on Smogon's monotype ladder and/or in monotype tournaments. Not that you couldn't do well with a monotype team in a non-monotype meta, just that it'd be significantly harder and why make **** harder for yourself than you have to?

Also put Gengar on the second team. Gengar is one of the best Ghost types right now.

Should he be the mega evo? Or should the mega Evo be Banette or Sableye?

 

[PlatinumDude]

Should he be the mega evo? Or should the mega Evo be Banette or Sableye?

Sableye should be the Mega. Mega Gengar is banned to Ubers.

As for your teams:

As I pointed out in a previous RMT, Dark and Ghost have redundant coverage, and Absol is better off with Knock Off as a Dark STAB to get rid of non-Mega Stone items. Stone Edge doesn't let Absol achieve much:
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off
-Play Rough/Superpower
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite

or
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off/Baton Pass
-Play Rough/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Absolite

Defensive Pokemon should use max HP EVs first before going for any of the defenses. Your Ferrothorn's EV spread is inefficient. Iron Defense wastes a moveslot that would have gone to a better support move, like Stealth Rock/Leech Seed. Iron Head is also outclassed by Gyro Ball, as Ferrothorn is very slow:
-Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip/Protect
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

Azumarill really needs Aqua Jet, as without it, it struggles against offensive teams. Aqua Jet also provides priority, and lets Azumarill pick off weakened targets. Use it over Aqua Tail.

Salamence is horribly outclassed in standard play by Dragonite, Mega Altaria, and Mega Charizard X, as all three have easier setup opportunities with Dragon Dance. The former has Multiscale to soften blows while at full health, and the latter two have better defensive typings:

Dragonite:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake/Fire Punch
-Extreme Speed
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale

Altaria:
-Dragon Dance
-Return
-Earthquake
-Roost/Fire Blast
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Altarianite

or
-Dragon Dance
-Return
-Earthquake/Heal Bell/Substitute
-Roost
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/136 Def/96 SDef/28 Spe
Item: Altarianite

Charizard:
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw
-Roost/Earthquake
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

Magmortar is an outclassed Fire Pokemon, as its average Speed hinders it, and its frailty and Stealth Rock weakness don't help either. Though Heatran is slower, it has better bulk and defensive typing:
-Fire Blast
-Flash Cannon/Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge
-Earth Power
-Stealth Rock
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Air Balloon

Swagger is banned under Smogon rules. You already have a Steel defender in Ferrothorn, so I don't think Klefki is necessary here.

 

[Nah]

If you're going to also use Banette/Sableye on the 2nd team, make them the mega and not Gengar since those 2 need their mega form while Gengar does not.

 

[GhostTypeLover]

If you're going to also use Banette/Sableye on the 2nd team, make them the mega and not Gengar since those 2 need their mega form while Gengar does not.

Alright, what should the moveset be? Also which mega would be a better choice? Sableye for tankiness?

Sableye should be the Mega. Mega Gengar is banned to Ubers.

As for your teams:

As I pointed out in a previous RMT, Dark and Ghost have redundant coverage, and Absol is better off with Knock Off as a Dark STAB to get rid of non-Mega Stone items. Stone Edge doesn't let Absol achieve much:
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off
-Play Rough/Superpower
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite

or
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off/Baton Pass
-Play Rough/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Absolite

Defensive Pokemon should use max HP EVs first before going for any of the defenses. Your Ferrothorn's EV spread is inefficient. Iron Defense wastes a moveslot that would have gone to a better support move, like Stealth Rock/Leech Seed. Iron Head is also outclassed by Gyro Ball, as Ferrothorn is very slow:
-Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip/Protect
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

Azumarill really needs Aqua Jet, as without it, it struggles against offensive teams. Aqua Jet also provides priority, and lets Azumarill pick off weakened targets. Use it over Aqua Tail.

Salamence is horribly outclassed in standard play by Dragonite, Mega Altaria, and Mega Charizard X, as all three have easier setup opportunities with Dragon Dance. The former has Multiscale to soften blows while at full health, and the latter two have better defensive typings:

Dragonite:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake/Fire Punch
-Extreme Speed
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale

Altaria:
-Dragon Dance
-Return
-Earthquake
-Roost/Fire Blast
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Altarianite

or
-Dragon Dance
-Return
-Earthquake/Heal Bell/Substitute
-Roost
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/136 Def/96 SDef/28 Spe
Item: Altarianite

Charizard:
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw
-Roost/Earthquake
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

Magmortar is an outclassed Fire Pokemon, as its average Speed hinders it, and its frailty and Stealth Rock weakness don't help either. Though Heatran is slower, it has better bulk and defensive typing:
-Fire Blast
-Flash Cannon/Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge
-Earth Power
-Stealth Rock
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Air Balloon

Swagger is banned under Smogon rules. You already have a Steel defender in Ferrothorn, so I don't think Klefki is necessary here.

I don't have a Heatran, well I did in my white version, but I lost it, and what should I replace Klefki with?

 

[PlatinumDude]

Alright, what should the moveset be? Also which mega would be a better choice? Sableye for tankiness?



I don't have a Heatran, well I did in my white version, but I lost it, and what should I replace Klefki with?

Sableye is better because Banette's frailty doesn't really work well with its support move pool, though it works to an extent:
-Calm Mind
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball/Snarl
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Sablenite
Ability: Prankster

or
-Knock Off
-Will-o-Wisp
-Foul Play/Toxic
-Recover
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/112 Def/144 SDef
Item: Sablenite
Ability: Prankster

 

[GhostTypeLover]

Forgive the double post, but here's what I came up with for the ghosts:

Aegislash
Quiet
Item: weakness policy
EV: 252 Sp.atk/ 252 HP/ 4 Atk
IV: 31 on all but not speed
Moves: Sacred Sword, Flash cannon, shadow ball, King shield

Chandelure
Modest
Item: Life orb
EV: 252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Ability: Infiltrator
Moves: Shadow ball, heat wave, Psychic, minimize

Gengar (forgive me if this is horrid, couldn't find any non mega Evo builds)
Timid
Item: Life orb/assault vest
EV: 252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Ability: Levitate (not sure if HA exists)
Moves: Shadow ball, Hidden power (dark/fire), Sludge wave, confuse ray/phantom force

Sableye
Relaxed
Item: Sablite
EV: 252 Def/252 Sp.Def/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but speed
Ability: Prankster
Moves: Embargo, Knock off, Phantom force, Will-o-wisp

Anything need changing?

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see your post until I finished, platinumdude.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Forgive the double post, but here's what I came up with for the ghosts:

Aegislash
Quiet
Item: weakness policy
EV: 252 Sp.atk/ 252 HP/ 4 Atk
IV: 31 on all but not speed
Moves: Sacred Sword, Flash cannon, shadow ball, King shield

Chandelure
Modest
Item: Life orb
EV: 252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Ability: Infiltrator
Moves: Shadow ball, heat wave, Psychic, minimize

Gengar (forgive me if this is horrid, couldn't find any non mega Evo builds)
Timid
Item: Life orb/assault vest
EV: 252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but atk
Ability: Levitate (not sure if HA exists)
Moves: Shadow ball, Hidden power (dark/fire), Sludge wave, confuse ray/phantom force

Sableye
Relaxed
Item: Sablite
EV: 252 Def/252 Sp.Def/4 HP
IV: 31 on all but speed
Ability: Prankster
Moves: Embargo, Knock off, Phantom force, Will-o-wisp

Anything need changing?

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see your post until I finished, platinumdude.

Gengar and Sableye are incapable of learning Phantom Force. See the above Sableye sets for much better alternatives.

Assault Vest is useless on frail Pokemon like Gengar. If you want a better offensive Gengar set, here it is. HP Dark is useless, as Ghost and Dark are redundant coverage, while Steel Pokemon are hit harder by Focus Blast:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave
-Focus Blast
-Taunt/Destiny Bond/Icy Wind/Substitute
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge

 

[GhostTypeLover]

Gengar and Sableye are incapable of learning Phantom Force. See the above Sableye sets for much better alternatives.

Assault Vest is useless on frail Pokemon like Gengar. If you want a better offensive Gengar set, here it is. HP Dark is useless, as Ghost and Dark are redundant coverage, while Steel Pokemon are hit harder by Focus Blast:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave
-Focus Blast
-Taunt/Destiny Bond/Icy Wind/Substitute
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge

Okay, like I said, it was likely gonna be horrid. XD

So, so far it's Sableye, Aegislash, Chandelure, Gengar, how would Drifblim/Jellicent do in the team?