Cat vs. Dog

[Honey-Senpai]

Suicune is my favorite too.

Ha ha, nearly everyone has a different thought about them! Hybrid cat-dogs? OK. XD
CatDog was a good show btw.

CatDog... You mean the cat with a dog as arse?
I love that show!

Anyway, Suicune's my favorite, as well.. It's ice type and I don't know why but I have a weak for ice-types.
Anyway, Raikou's summary says 'This POKéMON races across the land while barking a cry that sounds like crashing thunder.'
No offense, but, since when do tigers bark?
Entei's summary says 'Volcanoes erupt when it barks. Unable to restrain its extreme power, it races headlong around the land.'
Another bark...
Now for Suicune, it's summary says 'Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.'
So, Suicune is still questionable...

Waaaai~
~Honey-Senpai~

 

[Alter Ego]

Anyway, Suicune's my favorite, as well.. It's ice type and I don't know why but I have a weak for ice-types.

Actually, Suicune's a pure water type; not ice. =O


Anyways, cats hands down; if anyone here can't tell a lion or sabertooth tiger (*Cough* Entei and Raikou *Cough*) when they see one then that's their loss. I mean, sure the face is fierce and all but Entei's paws are definitely 100% Lion. Also, lions have quite the roar to their name. Raikou has a distinctly feline appearance to it with the sleek, agile body build, not to mention those claws (You show me a dog with claws like that; those were definitely made for scratching. =O) not to mention those extremely large fangs (no dog grows fangs that long, and as far as I know they're a defining characteristic of the sabertooth tiger). No offense, but since when were translators flawless? They could easily have messed up something like roar and bark, not to mention thats a 'barking cry' is not the same thing as 'a bark'; it just means 'bark-like' (maybe due to the fact that it sounds like thunder?). The other entries refer to it as a roar, by the way; do I sense a bit of counting the hits and ignoring the misses here? xP I agree that Suicune is the most dubious case of the lot, but if you look closely enough it does bear a resemblance to the lynx with that body shape and those thin, pointed ears. :3

 

[Shinji_]

Okay, To try and get this straight...

This looks a lot like a Tiger, no?

This actually looks a bit like a Wolf/Hound, I'd go for dog with him.

Hmm... Well, It's both feline-ish and canine-ish...
Suicune, A Wolf or a Tiger?


Waaaai~
~Honey-Senpai~

Yea, Raikou looks more like a sabre tooth tiger while entei looks like a hound I don't know about suicuine it looks like a hyeni however you spell it xD

 

[.Aero]

One thing I must note about each of them

Raikou-Looks tigerish, but its claws are almost bearish, and are not retractable. But every other thing points it too being a cat.
Entei-Has got dog feet, build, and a flat cat face. Has no tail, a more doglike aspect in some breeds. Well, not really, but there arent any tailless cats.
Suicune-Water-Type, cats hate water. Except tigers. And it has dog feet. Id say more doggish.

My cat loves water.......I'm serious, she plays in the sinks when we have them on. And don't most tailless dogs have their tails clipped because of "stadards" or whatever? Raikou I agree with.

 

[wmoor0826]

wow, i thought everyone knew that, I just called them legendary dogs cuz it sounds better.

 

[Manaphy1128]

/sigh...

Most of you all are hopeless on this topic. hahaha. I would explain further, but the static from my previous posts, obviously yer not getting it. So I won't elaborate.

They are very old pokemon... If Nintendo and Game freaks say they are Weepy crying babies, then thats what they are. ^^

No, you are. We heard you before and are ignoring what you said. Case closed, hands down for that matter.

Anyway, it doesn't matter what people are saying about water here. Wild cats actually swim if not point case. So anything to that in deneied.

Now anything to further find information?

 

[vizforte]

No, you are. We heard you before and are ignoring what you said. Case closed, hands down for that matter.

Anyway, it doesn't matter what people are saying about water here. Wild cats actually swim if not point case. So anything to that in deneied.

Now anything to further find information?

My bad, I thought you asked a question, not wanting the answer... Odd.. For your age though, I forgive you for not knowing questions are meant to be answered.

Anyway bye bye to this thread.

 

[Manaphy1128]

Do they always think like this towards 10 year-olds...?

Don't say that again, please. if you want to talk like that then just PM me. Back on topic of this raging war...

 

[Chibaymega12]

i say that Raikou is a cat, but the rest are dogs

 

[Me2UJus4Free]

Do they always think like this towards 10 year-olds...?

Don't say that again, please. if you want to talk like that then just PM me. Back on topic of this raging war...

Don't mind him, he's being rude, because people seem to think kids are idiots, and thus not worth their time.

 

[Astinus]

They're gerbils. They are the legendary gerbils of Johto. :3

Anyhow, after reading vizforte's posts, I decided to research these fuu-dogs. And you know what? They fit the description of Entei, Suicune, and Raikou. Their names are either Fu Lions or Foo Dogs because they have characteristics of both. If you look at pictures of them, you can see how Entei, Suicune, and Raikou were drawn from the statues.

So because I did research on this, I'm going to have to agree with vizforte. It makes so much sense now. :o

Before this, however, I just called them "beasts". It saved me the trouble of getting into these arguments.

 

[PaulKing]

game over raikou is my favorite

 

[Craig²]

Okay..one more time:

Entei: Though it may have a dog-like build, take a look at it's nose. No snout like a dog would have.(Except maybe a pug but I'm taking all dogs into account). It's paw's are another dog like feature, but could also be that of a cats though larger.
Claimed: Feline

Raikou: Do I NEED to explain this again? Apart from fangs,(which cat's have sharper one's then dogs, though dog's still have power to easily bite through skin), it also has a cat like face and build. I even think it walks like a cat, plus it has large eyesockets and its leg scructure.
Claimed: Feline

Suicune: The most confusing to take into account as a feline, its snout is a dog like structure, though it also has set in eyes that are sharp like a cat's more then dogs. Another note is again it's build, lithe and swift. Another observation could be its rather large ribcage, undoubtably suitable for swift movement; hence cheetahs, leopards, panthers, etc.
Claimed: Feline

Also, which species have more long haired breeds? Cats.

Anything else?

You really didn't need to post all that..They're dogs. That's all there is to it.

Entei is obviously a dog. Nintendo/Gamefreak couldn't have made that more obvious.

Raikou looks a bit feline ish but he still looks more like a dog to me anyway.

Suicuine was undoubtably a dog, IMO. There was no confusing it for me.

Ugh. I know I'm being terribly vague; I'll explain my reasoning if I must..

 

[Random]

You really didn't need to post all that..They're dogs. That's all there is to it.

Entei is obviously a dog. Nintendo/Gamefreak couldn't have made that more obvious.

Raikou looks a bit feline ish but he still looks more like a dog to me anyway.

Suicuine was undoubtably a dog, IMO. There was no confusing it for me.

Ugh. I know I'm being terribly vague; I'll explain my reasoning if I must..

I'm gonna go with what she said, cause to me, they all seem like dogs, IMO.

 

[Rivvon]

I honestly think they're all dogs. At first, when I was younger, I thought they were all cats. But as I got older, well, they started to seem more dog-ish to me.

Some fact stuff: Entei, yeah, has to be a dog. I mean, in the Gold Pokedex it says that he barks. In Silver, the Pokedex says that Raikou barks, too. I don't know how cute darking cats would be, but cats don't bark. And Suicune has never been mentioned to do anything really dog-like except run a lot, but doesn't look like a cat at all to me.

And for those who still don't believe: it's Pokemon! Just because they look like cats doesn't mean they are. There's a lot of confusing things that go on in Pokemon...

 

[Manaphy1128]

It is true that they are called or were called the legendary beasts, but people still call them the legendary dogs, for some reason.

Entei:

Spoiler:

Entei (エンテイ, Entei?) is one of the three "Legendary Beasts" that are featured in Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal. According to legend, the Legendary Beasts were reincarnated by Ho-Oh from the spirits of three Pokémon which died in the fire that gave Burnt Tower its name. They are awakened in this tower in their first video game appearance. Other myths maintains that it is born during the eruption of a volcano, and that a new one is born along with each volcano.

Entei is an embodiment of magma, being able to launch powerfully searing, fire that is hotter than magma from its mouth. This fire consumes everything that it touches. When it roars, volcanos around it are apparently triggered to erupt. Due to being unable to fully control its own power, it constantly sprints around the world.

Raikou:

Spoiler:

Raikou (ライコウ, Raikō?) is one of the three "Legendary Beasts" that are featured in Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal. According to legend, the Legendary Beasts were reincarnated by Ho-Oh from the spirits of three Pokémon which died in the fire that gave Burnt Tower its name. They are awakened in this tower in their first appearance. Another myth maintains that Raikou descended to earth together with a lightning bolt. Each Beast personifies a force of nature - Raikou, in particular, embodies the speed of lightning.

Like many Electric-type Pokémon, Raikou stores tremendous energy inside its body. This grants it extraordinary vitality, allowing it to run continuously across the land while shooting off electricity from the rain cloud that is on its back. Raikou's roar is aptly described as "thunderous": it is loud enough to create shock waves and shake the ground as if actual thunder had struck.

Suicune:

Spoiler:

Suicune (スイクン, Suicune? Suikun in original Japanese language versions) is one of the three "Legendary Beasts" that are featured in Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal. According to legend, the Legendary Beasts were reincarnated by Ho-Oh from the spirits of three Pokémon which died in the fire that gave Burnt Tower its name. They are awakened in this tower in their first video game appearance. It is the incarnation of northern winds, which always blow as it passes throughout the world. It also embodies the compassion of a spring, so as it travels, it seeks out pure reservoirs of water, and using its power, it instantly purifies dirty, muddy, or otherwise polluted water into the clearest of liquids by simply stepping into it.

So Entei doesn't actually bark. You are wrong in all. Still develop studies.

EDIT: Here is a site that agrees with me and shows some good points. The link is:
https://www.freewebs.com/togepiisland/enteiraikousuicune.htm

 

[Rivvon]

I didn't develop any studies. I just took quotes from the games they actually appeared in. Unless you're saying that the GS Pokedex is wrong...all I'm saying is that they bark, according to the games, and that I've never seen a barking cat.

And yes, they go by Legendary Beasts, just like they go by Legendary Dogs by some and Legendary Cats by some. I could just call them Legendary Trio and still be correct. And like I said before, just because it looks like a tiger (which it does, in fact) doesn't mean it's a cat. If Pokemon used logic like that in everything that went on in the games, Pidgey wouldn't be able to use Fly out of battle.

 

[vizforte]

I appologize Manaphy. It just seemed rather rude of you when you said we are all just ignoring you. When I gave the very reason, behind this thread. Or so it seemed to be. I figured you wanted to know why they look like they look. So, having the knowledge of why, I gave it.

I didn't take kindly to your comment in reply. If this is just a rant thread, then like I said I appologize. But I am curious of one thing, why do you keep saying everyone is wrong, who has an alternative opinion to yours?

While I respect your opinion, please try not to be rude to others whom have other knowledge. You will just in turn, recieve an in kind motion.

Here are a couple of web pages with Fu Dog information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_guardian_lions
https://www.foodog.com/

The actual Foo Dog breed.
https://rarebreed.com/breeds/foo/foo_std.html

Those are just a couple, and in one of them, you can even see why the feline look is more apparent. As some Foo dogs were lions. Which owuld indeed BE feline yes.

Anyways, thats actual information on the breeds and creatures that Entei, Raikou, and Suicune are based on.

If your convinced they are however cats, email Nintendo, Game freaks, and heck try Satoshi Tajiri, even though he didn't create them. He did invent Pokemon. He could let you in on Pokemon being based of Japanese legends.

Peace out of this thread. Just thought, I should be the good guy, and appologize.

 

[Craig²]

EDIT: Here is a site that agrees with me and shows some good points. The link is:
https://www.freewebs.com/togepiisland/enteiraikousuicune.htm

I dont mean to get off topic but the website wasn't much help at all. The just stated what they thought with no reason behind it. (I know I'm being hypocritical but I'll post my reasoning later) Whoever made that, when they made the comparisans to the dogs, they said that if the dog didn't resemble the dog they were based off then it wasn't a dog..XDDD Pffft.

Anyways, although I see where Entei could possibly be a Lion and Raikou a Tiger, I still see them as dogs. All of them.

So I see how people could see them as cats.

 

[Manaphy1128]

And yet I see you are still on this page at the moment i'm writing this

And first of all I never said you are all just ignoring me.

Now on back to this grand little argument of science and knowledge:

The first of three: Entei

Looking at his head and facial features, https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Entei17.jpg, you may notice the shaggy, dark-tan hair on his head. This is more or less symbolic of the mane on lions:https://www.uvm.edu/~alpdelpi/lion.jpg. Compare the two pictures closely. Compare the textures, colors, and shapes... notice the white tuff of hair on both of their chins. Also compare:

https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Entei30.jpg
https://www.sciencefiction.com/science2/images/lion.jpg

Notice the placement of the fangs and the position of the manes as they roar.

The second of the three: Raikou

I doubt any dog would have teeth like this: https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Raikou5.jpg. Compare with a real tiger: https://www.percepp.demon.co.uk/sounds/tiger.jpg

Also compare:

https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Raikou2.gif
https://www.nwf.org/keepthewildalive/images/photos/tiger.jpg

Notice the white fur lining the edge of both the face of Raikou and the tiger. One last thing: both tigers and Raikou have a yellowish fur coat with black stripes.

The last of the three: Suicune

This one I can't provide proof for, but logically, if the other two are wild cats, then
Suicune is, too.

I'd also like to compare the digits of the beasts and that of dogs and cats:

https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Entei11.jpg
https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Raikou2.gif
https://silentaurora.tripod.com/Sui5.jpg

All three beasts have 3 digits on their front AND back paws. And now the paw of dogs:

https://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=dog+%2Bpaw

There you have it: dogs have 4 digits on their paws. With the similarities in looks and this obvious reason why the 3 beasts aren't dogs, it's clear that Entei, Raikou, and Suicune are based on wild cats!
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