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Competitive Team Help

oshizlgzngahr

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    I'm new to competitive battling an decided I'm going to give it a try this gen. I know about EV's and all that, I just need some suggestions and EV spreads for a team to build around an offensive mega Charizard Y. Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
     
    uh just a simple tip, run a defogger or spinner so that charizard y wouldnt be stripped of 50% of its health if it switches in into stealth rocks

    popular offensive defoggers and rapid spinners would be latios and excadrill
     
    Alright I think I'll have an excadrill for that
     
    Since you're using Charizard and Excadrill, you're gonna need something that's anti-water. A few good ones are Rotom-W, Vaporeon, Gastrodon, and specially defensive Celebi.

    -Rotom Wash w/Chesto Berry
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Rest, Will-o-Wisp, Volt Switch/Thunderbolt

    or

    -Rotom Wash w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 28 Sp.Attack, 232 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp, Volt Switch/Thunderbolt, Pain Split

    -Vaporeon w/Lum Berry or Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Wish, Protect, Toxic/Ice Beam

    -Gastrodon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed/Sassy
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Recover, Earthquake/Earth Power, Toxic/Ice Beam

    -Celebi w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP, 232 Sp.Defense, 20 Speed
    Moves: Giga Drain/Psychic, U-Turn, Recover, Thunder Wave/Perish Song/Stealth Rock

    And if you need sets for Mega Zard Y and Excadrill:

    -Mega Charizard Y w/ Charizardite Y
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast/Air Slash

    -Excadrill w/Air Balloon
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Earthquake, Rapid Spin, Swords Dance, Rock Slide/Shadow Claw

    or

    -Excadrill w/Assualt Vest
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 176 HP, 52 Attack, 80 Defense, 202 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Rapid Spin, Earthquake, Swrods Dance, Rock Slide/Shadow Claw
     
    No Chance Without Zekrom said:
    Since you're using Charizard and Excadrill, you're gonna need something that's anti-water. A few good ones are Rotom-W, Vaporeon, Gastrodon, and specially defensive Celebi.

    -Rotom Wash w/Chesto Berry
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Rest, Will-o-Wisp, Volt Switch/Thunderbolt

    or

    -Rotom Wash w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 28 Sp.Attack, 232 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Hydro Pump, Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp, Volt Switch/Thunderbolt, Pain Split

    -Vaporeon w/Lum Berry or Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP, 248 Defense, 8 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Wish, Protect, Toxic/Ice Beam

    -Gastrodon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed/Sassy
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Recover, Earthquake/Earth Power, Toxic/Ice Beam

    -Celebi w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP, 232 Sp.Defense, 20 Speed
    Moves: Giga Drain/Psychic, U-Turn, Recover, Thunder Wave/Perish Song/Stealth Rock

    And if you need sets for Mega Zard Y and Excadrill:

    -Mega Charizard Y w/ Charizardite Y
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast/Air Slash

    -Excadrill w/Air Balloon
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Earthquake, Rapid Spin, Swords Dance, Rock Slide/Shadow Claw

    or

    -Excadrill w/Assualt Vest
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 176 HP, 52 Attack, 80 Defense, 202 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Rapid Spin, Earthquake, Swrods Dance, Rock Slide/Shadow Claw
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    I think I'll go with the So Defense Rotom-W. Would you have any recommendations for a physical wall? Or is a special wall all I'll need?
     
    You'll probably wanna run a physical wall as well. Several good ones exist:

    -Skarmory w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Moves: Brave Bird, Roost, Whirlwind, Spikes

    -Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
    Nature: Impish/Adamant
    Ability: Harvest
    EVs: 252 HP, 240 Defense, 18 Speed
    Moves: Leech Seed, Will-o-Wisp, Protect/Substitute, Shadow Claw

    -Gourgeist (Super Size) w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Frisk
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Shadow Sneak, Leech Seed, Will-o-Wisp, Seed Bomb

    There's a few more, but I'm not sure if they'd fit well on your team so far.
     
    No Chance Without Zekrom said:
    You'll probably wanna run a physical wall as well. Several good ones exist:

    -Skarmory w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Moves: Brave Bird, Roost, Whirlwind, Spikes

    -Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
    Nature: Impish/Adamant
    Ability: Harvest
    EVs: 252 HP, 240 Defense, 18 Speed
    Moves: Leech Seed, Will-o-Wisp, Protect/Substitute, Shadow Claw

    -Gourgeist (Super Size) w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Frisk
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Shadow Sneak, Leech Seed, Will-o-Wisp, Seed Bomb

    There's a few more, but I'm not sure if they'd fit well on your team so far.
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    Physically defensive Wash Rotom is preferred because of Talonflame running around. Note that its Water STAB may be weakened because of Charizard Y's Drought:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

    Roost is a possible option for Charizard Y since it can heal itself from damage in battle (particularly from Stealth Rock) with it:
    -Fire Blast
    -Solar Beam
    -Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast
    -Earthquake/Roost
    Nature: Hasty/Mild/Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Charizardite Y

    Excadrill now has the option to use Iron Head as a secondary STAB move:
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head/Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    -Swords Dance/Stealth Rock
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Air Balloon/Chople Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide/Shadow Claw/X-Scissor
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide/Shadow Claw
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/136 Atk/24 SDef/100 Spe
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    Trevenant uses 76 Speed EVs to outspeed Tyranitar and Scizor so that it can burn them before they can do anything. Also, here are better sets; one in particular can go specially defensive to better handle Starmie and Mega Blastoise:
    -Horn Leech/Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake/Rock Slide
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Rest
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/180 Def/76 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Lum Berry
    Ability: Natural Cure/Harvest

    or
    -Horn Leech
    -Shadow Claw/Leech Seed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Protect
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 244 HP/16 Def/248 SDef
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest

    or
    -Substitute
    -Leech Seed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Phantom Force
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/180 Def/76 Spe
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest
     
    Have to agree with pirouette; Latias definitely makes a good Defog user. Here's a moveset for it:

    Latias @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Thunderbolt
    - Defog

    If you like, you may try Crobat as well:

    Crobat @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Infiltrator
    Nature: Jolly
    176 HP / 192 Atk / 4 SDef / 136 Spe
    - Defog
    - Taunt
    - Brave Bird
    - U-Turn
     
    Alright thanks so far I'll be using.
    Charizard w/Charizardite Y
    Timid/Modest nature
    Drought
    252 Speed, 252 Sp Atk, and 4 Atk
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Blast
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Solarbeam

    Excadrill w/assault vest
    Adamant Nature
    Mold Breaker
    248 HP, 136 Atk, 24 SPDef, and 100 speed
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head (if I find my black 2)/Poison Jab for fairies
    -Rapid Spin
    -Rock Slide

    Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
    Impish Nature
    Harvest
    252 HP, 180 Def, 76 Speed
    -Will-O Wisp
    -Leech Seed
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    Rotom-W w/Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Levitate
    252 HP, 28 SP Atk, 232 SP Defense
    -Hydro Pump
    -Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt
    -Pain Split
     
    Alright thanks so far I'll be using.
    Charizard w/Charizardite Y
    Timid/Modest nature
    Drought
    252 Speed, 252 Sp Atk, and 4 Atk
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Blast
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Solarbeam

    Excadrill w/assault vest
    Adamant Nature
    Mold Breaker
    248 HP, 136 Atk, 24 SPDef, and 100 speed
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head (if I find my black 2)/Poison Jab for fairies
    -Rapid Spin
    -Rock Slide

    Trevenant w/Sitrus Berry
    Impish Nature
    Harvest
    252 HP, 180 Def, 76 Speed
    -Will-O Wisp
    -Leech Seed
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake

    Rotom-W w/Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    Levitate
    252 HP, 28 SP Atk, 232 SP Defense
    -Hydro Pump
    -Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt
    -Pain Split
     
    For your Charizard i would put the 4 EVs into HP instead of Attack. Although this is a minor suggestion those 4 EV's are better utilized in HP.

    I kinda like Volt Switch over T-Wave on your Rotom-W, and Horn Leech over Wood Hammer on Trev (i believe it gets that move)

    Also, for your fifth & sixth slot on the team you could try Skarmory and Togekiss.

    Skarmory
    Impish
    252 HP/252 Def/4 Speed
    Lum berry/leftovers
    Brave bird
    Whirlwind
    Spikes
    Roost

    Skarm can be your main phaser and really shines as a defensive tank.

    Togekiss
    Kings Rock
    Bold
    252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp.Def

    Thunder Wave
    Dazzling Gleam
    Air Slash
    Roost

    I normally dont suggest Kings Rock on Pokemon but para-flinch Togekiss is nothing to laugh at. You can easily cripple the opposing pokemon and take them out with air slash as they have a slim chance of hitting back.
     
    dreyko said:
    For your Charizard i would put the 4 EVs into HP instead of Attack. Although this is a minor suggestion those 4 EV's are better utilized in HP.

    I kinda like Volt Switch over T-Wave on your Rotom-W, and Horn Leech over Wood Hammer on Trev (i believe it gets that move)

    Also, for your fifth & sixth slot on the team you could try Skarmory and Togekiss.

    Skarmory
    Impish
    252 HP/252 Def/4 Speed
    Lum berry/leftovers
    Brave bird
    Whirlwind
    Spikes
    Roost

    Skarm can be your main phaser and really shines as a defensive tank.

    Togekiss
    Kings Rock
    Bold
    252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp.Def

    Thunder Wave
    Dazzling Gleam
    Air Slash
    Roost

    I normally dont suggest Kings Rock on Pokemon but para-flinch Togekiss is nothing to laugh at. You can easily cripple the opposing pokemon and take them out with air slash as they have a slim chance of hitting back.
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    Alright thanks, I was actually thinking of a togekiss so I can handle dragon types. And if I get skarmory should I use him to start off because he has more of a set up move set?
     
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