Dark_Azelf got me thinking and...

[Ársa]

Loquacity Please Close this, as I don't want people to be seeing my team. (People go here every time I battle, shame on them... :()

By the way, I'm pretty sure I've got damn close to the ultimate group around.....that thing.....

~T_S

 

[luke]

Everyone does realize Superpower drops the user's Attack and Defense by one level, right?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Deoxys@Life Orb
Naive
96 Spd, 160 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk

Thunderbolt
Psychic / Psycho Boost /Shadow Ball
Ice Beam
Superpower

Doesnt need any hp, 160 Att evs is a 2hko on Blissey if you do at least 65% to blissey on the first turn.

204 ATT EVS GUARANTEES A 2hko, so its up to you.

Psycho Boost can go >> Psychic if you want, due to its mediocre offenses. As can Shadow ball which grants it better coverage against ghosts and stuff like Cressy, Dusknoir etc.


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Celebi@Leftovers
Timid
252 HP, 176 Spd, 80 Def

Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Psychic
Hidden Power Ice

Looks ok to me

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Blissey@Leftovers
Bold
148 HP, 252 Def, 104 Sp. Att , 4 sp.def
Natural Cure

Ice Beam
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss / Thunder

ewww, Natural Cure plesh and needs Sp.Att evs.


Wheres Seismic Toss ?

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Gliscor@leftovers
Impish
252 HP, 252 def /6 att

Aerial Ace / Ice Fang / Stone Edge
Roost
Earthquake
Knock Off / Stealth Rock

Yeah. this wants lefties Impish and max def or your not gonna be walling for long.

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Tentacruel@Leftovers
Calm
204 HP, 96 Sp. Atk, 172 Sp. Def, 36 Spd
Liquid Ooze

Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spikes

Your fine with Heracross as you have Gliscor, i love this guy, its so underrated and one of the best spinners IMO and is generally all around awesome, LOLs at mixape

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Weavile@Focus Sash
Jolly
252 Atk, 220 Spd, 36 HP

Swords Dance
Ice Shard
Brick Break
Night Slash

Errm, sure

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I know, so many teams, but I just cannot choose. ;) I am constantly changing and adapting, and eventually I will find a team I want to settle down with. Until then.......RMT!

I know what you mean, i cant find that one perfect team to stick with.

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Changes are in bold.

Looks quite nice.

 

[Faceless*]

So.. explain which genius came up with the OU Deoxys idea

 

[luke]

Speed Deoxys simply cannot compete in Uber. And there were a ton of people (myself included) who participated in a series of tests on Wi-Fi and on Shoddy to see if it would be too powerful for OU. I stopped participating relatively early because I had other things I needed to focus on, but I guess that they found that it didn't overpower the OU metagame. None of it's stats are particularly outstanding besides it's Speed. If it can't get a super effective hit on it's opponent, it won't be OHKO'ing anytime soon. And even with a super effective strike, it's not a guaranteed KO because 95 Attack / 95 Special Attack is not impressive. It's HP is terrible and it doesn't have the Defenses to hold it up.

I'm surprised to see everyone is so closed-minded to tier changes. Simply amazed. "OMG SMOGON SUXX0RS! THEY SAID IT SO OMG IT DOESN'T WORK! SCREW THEM!" You all act like Smogon is filled with a bunch of novice trainers. While I don't agree with them 100% of the time, they do have a good understanding of the metagame. And it wasn't like it was a rash decision. They performed a lot of battles and tried a lot of move sets. Trust me -- Speed Deoxys is workable in OU.

 

[Faceless*]

Oh, only the speed form? Understood

I'd give Gliscor Stealth Rock over either Knock Off or Aerial Ace

 

[Anti]

Imagine Deoxys-A in OUs lololololololol

Sorry, that was me having a moment.

But anyways, D-E (I know, my nickname for it because the name is painfully annoying to spell >.>) wants more Shadow Ball action. With a CM or two, Noir and Cressi can be overpowered. Psychic and Psycho boost don't do much for ya IMO.

 

[Syaoran]

I think people don't realize its power yet. Some pokemon may be too sucky for Ubers, but that doesn't mean they should be OU (Mew for example). Being the fastest in the game, mainly in the OU metagame, potentially puts a stop to all the DD / Scarf users, namely Gyarados and Garchomp. I don't know about you, but if someone, somehow, managed to get 2 DD's on Gyara and then suddently Deoxys comes out of nowhere forcing a switch, I'd be quite pissed if I was the Gyara user. This pokemon take a lot from the OU metagame instead of contributing to it IMO.

Also, Deoxys-E stats aren't SO bad. 90 in both defences and 50 HP can be compared to Starmie, and Starmie usually keeps it HP unmaxed at 304 (which is ironically the max HP of Deoxys-E). A defensive set with enough power to KO Gyarados/Garchomp can be quite terrorizing, as Deoxys-E even learns Spikes, something every team should fear. Thunderbolt is not only threatening Gyara, but also Skarmory who usually tries to set up her own spikes or whirlwind you away.

There are better mixed sweepers in the OU metagame, but they don't have access to moves like Spikes and Knock, nor do they have the ability to pressure stall.


Now, for the team.

Deoxys-E: Superpower is highly overrated IMO. Blissey switching in on Superpower has a very slim chance of happening. If it's 1v1 then Blissey can simply use Softboiled and laugh at Deoxys why it is left with -1 Atk and Def. I agree that it needs a way of handling Weavile/TTar, so why not give it Focus Blast? Gengar doesn't complain about the 70% accuracy, why should Deoxys-E be any different? Blissey will fear it a lot more with some calm minds passed to it.

Gliscor: It doesn't need jolly, go impish. The only thing it should outspeed is jolly TTar so it can Roost off damage from Stone Edge. Also, it doesn't need Aerial Ace to counter Heracross. At long as Hera is faster, he will not be doing much damage, and your Earthquakes will kill him eventually. You can switch it for Stealth Rock or Ice Fang, but keeping it isn't a bad idea.

Celebi: It should have a way of healing itself, so Recover > HP ice IMO. You already have Ice Shard on Weavile and Ice Beam on Deoxys-E.

Weavile: I personally think Pursuit is a must on any Weavile, but your set can work I guess. Just be careful because you won't get many opportunities to use Swords Dance being left unharmed.

 

[Chompah :x]

Uhh, Smogon says Deoxys is uber again guys.

 

[luke]

Where did you read this? If it's the list, they don't always update that.

 

[Chompah :x]

Ooh, Yeah it was in the list :z.

 

[Ársa]

UPDATED!!! PLEASE SEE NEW TEAM, TOLD YOU I LIKE CHANGE ;)

~T_S

 

[Uryū Ishida]

Overall i think it's alright, but in the end its up to you, one thing ill have to criticise on is having ubers (Legendarys) i dont like them, having superpowered stats and all, the way i build my teams is having all pokemon that can beat eachother, so basically a cycle.

 

[Azonic]

Yeah, Deoxys might be legendary, but it is now OU, obviously. And I wouldn't call legendary pokemon uber. You'll be calling Entei uber, which can be easily beaten by many of the OUs and some BLs.

 

[Ársa]

Yes, the only reason I am using Deoxys-E is because it is now considered OU. Besides, it is just an experiment. People limiting themselves to no legends when they can have legends that will seriously improve their team are..........indifferent to me.

~T_S

 

[Dark Azelf]

COMPLETELY NEW(ISH)

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Bronzong@Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 8 Def / 96 sp.def / 152 Att
Levitate

Hypnosis
Stealth Rock
Gyro ball
Explosion /Earthquake

Lefties or you wont last long, Gyro ball on this and Stealth Rock plesh. Try and get the speed ivs as low as possible, preferable as close to 0 as you can get, Screens arnt necessary for this team, you have Blissey and already have reflect on metagross
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Deoxys-E@Leftovers
Careful
252 HP, 144 Sp. Def, 114 Def

Recover
Substitute
Cosmic Power
Taunt

Taunt = win



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Tentacruel@Leftovers
Calm
204 HP, 96 Sp. Atk, 172 Sp. Def, 36 Spd
Liquid Ooze

Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spikes

Tentacruel = awesomeness

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Blissey@Leftovers
Bold
148 HP, 104 Sp. Atk, 252 Def 4 sp.def
Natural Cure

Ice Beam
Softboiled
Aromatherapy / Thundewave
Seismic Toss

Thunderbolt is meh to say the least on this, Aromatherapy or Thunderwave are better, id say Aromatherapy is generally better.

Changed that ev spread so you can inflict major upon on Dragons and Bulky ground types with Ice beam.

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Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Def
Adaptability

Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Dark Pulse

Ok if you like

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Metagross@Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP, 232 Atk, 24 Def

Reflect
Bullet Punch / Thunderpunch
Earthquake
Meteor Mash

Thunderpunch can be useful for bulky waters and Skarm to some extent. Wants leftovers

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Changes are in bold,

Nothing really damages swampert here, and you get beat up pretty badly with Heracross due to Toxic Spikes, i use Gliscor in conjunction with Tenta and they work well as they cover each others weaknesses.

 

[Ársa]

Zong was my Priority in getting Deoxys in, and I must say, absolutely no for the no attack Deoxys. I just had a 2 hour stall war with Alakazam17 and only 3 pokemon fainted, purely because Deoxys couldn't attack, and he kept switching out to avoid using PP.

EDIT: By the way:

Zong:

31 / 30 / 31 / 27 / 31 / 0

~T_S