Do you believe in Jesus/God?

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

Erm...what happened to the debate? Or have I proven myself? Does God exist? If we hav confirmed that he does, then we can move on to another topic. In another thread, of course.

Sorry, I didn't realise there was a time limit on my responses.

Anyway....

Excuse me? I believe in God because I want to be comforted when I die. I want to have reason on Earth. What do you think your purpose on Earth is? To live? Like one of those stray cats in the back alleys? They live life very well. So do other animals. Do you think it is really sheer coincidence that we were put on Earth as intelligent beings? We are the only creatures on Earth to build structures, to use speech, to live together in organised societies, and to have a useful, thinking brain. Do you think it is just sheer coincidence?

Why do you have a problem with my belief that it is a coincidence? A small chance is not the same as no chance. After all, if a hypothetical man buys a lottery ticket, he has a minute chance of winning. But that doesn't mean he can't win. Besides, there are theoretically billions of planets out there. The chance that one would develop intelligent life has to be pretty decent.

So why do you treat science as a weapon against religion? They could easily work together to explain the world around us.

I...dont'. I know they could theoretically work together, but in my opinion, they don't. If your beliefs are different, that's fine by me.

Now, about your quote from the Qur'an. Are you prattling on about it because it was the only one you could find a problem with? There is no error in the Qur'an. Everything in the Qur'an is helpful to humans, and the world would be a lot better if everyone followed its laws. At least the part about morals, anyway.

You mean the heavens/layers quote? I was 'prattling on' about it because you brought it up. And I'm not saying that there is error in the Koran, I'm just saying that the essay you linked to might not have interpreted it correctly.

As for your last point...I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I think people are mostly decent, whereas you believe that people need religion to guide them. That's just a difference of opinion.

 

[jasonresno]

It dosn't really have a definitive explanation about the Dinosaurs; just like science dosn't have any explanation on what caused the Big Bang; both sides have their flaws but one thing about science is that it depends on technology which advances as time progresses. Whereas religion on the other hand is more dependant on history so it actually becomes harder to prove as time goes on; which is why I really can't see religion being able to prove anything more than it already has in the future.

That's exactly the thing. If you want to follow God you don't need to know anything else other than what's already out there. It's hard for me to put into words what it's like to follow God to someone that isn't spiritual. That's not supposed to be an insult or sound rude or anything. For those that do lean towards religion nothing is more powerful and more emotional than being strong in your faith. And being religious in a continually scientific world is very hard because, like Angela, there are people that just can't be respectful.

edit: To LordGaGa, no offense, but you are making those that are religious look bad. You need to pony up and just respect other people.

 

[processr]

I don't think anyone should be trying to prove anything, everyone knows deep in their heart that the BBT is more likely then a God.

Ha, I lol'd.

But seriously, how can you make a generalising, unsupported and potentially insulting statement such as this? Because last I checked there were quite a lot of people who believed in a religion, and more still who are unsure over their beliefs. People have faith in their beliefs, and many believe in the creation myths of their respective religions. How can you suggest that people inherently believe in the Big Bang theory?

 

[jasonresno]

Ha, I lol'd.

But seriously, how can you make a generalising, unsupported and potentially insulting statement such as this? Because last I checked there were quite a lot of people who believed in a religion, and more still who are unsure over their beliefs. People have faith in their beliefs, and many believe in the creation myths of their respective religions. How can you suggest that people inherently believe in the Big Bang theory?

Because it's the nature of the uninformed/impolite user to do so. I hope I'm not out of line when I say this but Angela has turned a potentially informal debate more mean spirited than it needs to be.

 

[doesn't matter]

Yeah I'm sick of this thread. I don't know why I let you all roam off-topic like this for so long.

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