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Dost thou not ignore this team. >=O

Magmortified

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    My Stall team. Of win. =O This is actually kinda the first team I've built to stall with, as most others are totally offensive. I'm sorta retired from the leaderboard right now, anyways, so I don't mind trying something awesome and new. Anyhow:

    Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Fang
    -Stealth Rock
    -Slack Off

    Generic stall team lead. :D Generally works out well in getting the sand up. Stealth Rocker, as well as generally helping out absorbing physical hits. Too bad it only gets four moveslots.

    Forretress @ Shed Shell
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP, 162 Attack, 96 Defense
    -Gyro Ball
    -Light Screen
    -Rapid Spin
    -Spikes

    Seems a slight bit redundant with Hippowdon, but I need a Spiker anyhow. The need for Rapid Spin support on this team is questionable with no Stealth Rock problems and Nidoqueen absorbing Toxic Spikes, so I've been considering Skarmory instead.

    Spiritomb @ Leftovers
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP, 144 Defense, 112 Special Defense
    -Calm Mind
    -Pain Split
    -Shadow Ball
    -HP Fighting

    Yeah, I kinda spliced the spread with the set here. My main aim's for this thing to live. Plus, I need better backup for taking on Lucario than just Nidoqueen. Also an Anti-Spinner of doom.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP, 220 Defense, 36 Special Defense
    -Recover
    -Reflect
    -Grass Knot
    -Leech Seed

    Decided to put those 36 EVs in SpD instead of Speed, since HP Ice 70 required me to get some fairly low Speed EVs anyhow. Reflect Celebi. Handles Garchomp cool, I guess. As well as bulky waters I might otherwise have a little difficulty with.

    Nidoqueen @ Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP, 216 Defense, 40 Special Defense
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    -Ice Beam
    -Toxic Spikes

    Sets up Toxic Spikes, as well as surprisingly countering Lucario. Win. :D

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 188 HP, 252 Defense, 68 Special Attack
    -Wish
    -HP Electric
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam

    This team loves Wish support, and Vaporeon delivers well. Plus it handles Gyarados, which can otherwise cause problems.

    Well, there ye have it.
     
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    Put Roar on either Hippow or Nidoqueen. You want a PHazer or stuff that stats up is going to own you, shuffling Spikes around is also win.


    Also, nothing to take powerful sp.hits really is disappointing (See Draco meteor etc), may want to invest something in that area.
     
    also if going for a stall, it dosent really make since to use explosion and your main focus is stalling so i suggest putting gyro ball over explosion

    protect is also a valuable option on vappy because it allows for a reliable source of recovery aswell as waste a valuable turn for your opponent who wants to kill you before they die of poisoning themselves, so yea that can be used over ice beam on vappy

    you also lack a decent special wall. i so light screen should be considered over reflect also
     
    Skarm > Forry, in the event that your opponent attempts to setup Spikes of their own they can be easily countered by Vaporeon/Celebi.

    CroCune basically sets up on your entire team, so I propose HP Ice on Celebi be dropped in favour of Leech Seed, considering that Celebi can setup Reflect on Garchomp and help Hippo/Vaporeon take it down.

    Spiritomb isn't going to take Crunch SDLukes without Will-O-Wisp, so I suggest the standard set, with WoW > CM/HP Fighting.

    Light Screen > Explosion on Forry, you could ditch Shed Shell and just treat Zone as setup bait. Light Screen will help a lot in ensuring that your team is protected from special attackers, as there is a lack of anything specific to take those hits.

    @mystery: Forry has Gyro Ball already.
     
    You'll want to keep CM on Spiritomb for the SP.Def but definitely use WoW to allow it to cripple Physical threats too. Dark Pulse could replace Shadow Ball but it doesn't really matter.
     
    Light Screen added on Forretress, and Leech Seed's been brought in on Celebi.

    To be honest, I'm not quite sure why WoW would be too great an option on Spiritomb since it has to take an SD Crunch anyhow. =P I've been using Spiritomb to switch in on the attacks. Nidoqueen's my intended method of countering SDLuke, with Spiritomb providing base support.

    I may start packing Roar on Hippowdon, but I want Stealth Rocks somewhere. Would packing SR on Nidoqueen over Fire Blast or something work?
     
    Umm Weezing might do well. You need a reliable pokemon that can use haze. Your might have a problem with a boosted pokemon in attack or spl attack.
     
    Trust me dude, against teams that are largely Physical, WoW will pwn.
     
    Roar vs. Stealth Rock is a big question here. It comes down to this answer: Phazing vs. hazards. Seeing Fire Blast is always nice to hit Skarmory and Forry, you should probably keep it, seeing as you lack any other fire move, therefore, Forretress could really set up at least two layers of Spikes, but with Fire Blast, it can only get one layer or Stealth Rock, then forced to switch out or die (barring a miss). You already have Vappy with Ice Beam for Dragons, so you could potentially drop Ice Beam for Stealth Rock on Nido and go with Roar on Hippo. Just a thought, and my knowledge may be stupid.
     
    One thing I've noticed...nothing on your team can really take two Draco Meteors from SpecsMence and live to tell the tale without some luck, but I'm unsure of that. You may need a sturdy steel or special sponge in there.
     
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