DS vs. PSP

[Carlito-san]

Wanna hear a quote from my stupid,stupid friend?"Nintendo better do something about that DS,the GBA is getting blown out of the water by it."

 

[John Denver]

You know, its not nice to flame right after reporting someone for it ^.^ And it's not plageurism if you give proper credit. And I see proper credit.

You say price isn't important, but the thing is, it is. Parents will buy whatever is cheapest. You can't deny that. Unless the parent in question is Bill Gates or George Bush or some other parent rolling in a lot of money, they're going to buy whatever is cheapest.

And your local example doesn't always coincide with that of other places. And why are you comparing the DS to Gamecube, when its more like the GBA? Seems pretty basic to me. The DS is a new GB so it seems like pretty common sense to compare it to the GBA instead of the GCN. Especially when the article does that as well. At present, and at launch, the GBA was cheaper then all other systems and sells more then the other systems.

She uh, didn't really flame anyone Shadow <_<

But I do agree that price does matter a bit. And nintendo said it themselves, a handheld game should always cost less than a console game. Why pay $50 for GT4 on a PSP when you can pay $50 for GT4 on PS2 with better graphics/features/everything else?

But, as else said, price doesn't matter in THIS instance. The difference in prices between the PSP and DS aren't really THAT huge. Frankly, I think both systems suck >.<

But the onlyOnlyONLYONLYONLY!! reason I would get a DS over a PSP is because it's Nintendo. Sooner or later, Nintendo always pulls away from the pack and does something new and cool which always appeals to me. And I hope they do that for the DS.

 

[Shadow]

1 -

You know, sometimes, it's nice to write your own articles.

I know a lot of people who would take a sarcastic remark such as that as flaming.

2 - Once again a1337a, THE DS IS A HAND-HELD, IT ISN'T COMPARABLE TO NON-HANDHELD CONSOLES.

3 - Are you currently living with parents in the US (bigger market then Austrailia)? No... Parents nowadays buy what's cheapest cause we're all broke thanks to Mr. George W. Bush for making the US dollar near worthless. *leaves politics* The typical American parent thinks that all video games are alike and buys whatever is cheaper.

 

[John Denver]

1 - I know a lot of people who would take a sarcastic remark such as that as flaming.

2 - Once again a1337a, THE DS IS A HAND-HELD, IT ISN'T COMPARABLE TO NON-HANDHELD CONSOLES.

3 - Are you currently living with parents in the US (bigger market then Austrailia)? No... Parents nowadays buy what's cheapest cause we're all broke thanks to Mr. George W. Bush for making the US dollar near worthless. *leaves politics* The typical American parent thinks that all video games are alike and buys whatever is cheaper.

Or until you come of age

*points to self and everyone else with jobs*

You begin to buy your own games ;)

 

[the skate board kid]

DS all the way man, all the way.

 

[Kairi]

With Shadow, I disagree. A ton of people will point out to you the GBA sells better than the PS2 (such as yourself), as proof of Nintendo's power. Especially since these stupid handhelds, the DS and PSP, are trying to be consoles on wheels, they can be judged as such.
And if parents really do see all video games as the same, as you say, why would it matter if it's portable or not? If price matters for consoles and you lump them altogether as video games, it'll matter for handhelds too.


I'd just rather Nintendo and Sony keep their noses out of this business of 3D handhelds. The GBA has an awesome presentation of 2D games, better than has been achieved elsewhere. And now the DS wants to reintroduce us to dated graphics, and the PSP is an attempt to break into the market. Bleh. The DS is like the Ngage in that it asks its developers to overstep the not quite powerful enough boundaries of their system, and make up for it with some other features. We have better technology available than what the DS is using. Graphics may or may not matter, but not giving more potential is just stupid.


[Graphics rant] And they do matter, IMO. There have been great games on consoles with inferior graphics. But those kinds of games would have been better, and more frequent, if they were able to be presented better. And I imagine had you shown any of those developers at the time vastly superior hardware, they'd use it. Cause they want to polish their game as much as they can, and graphics do that.[/rant]

Also seems like a good time to remind you, that 99% of the sales of the DS and PSP aren't coming from super educated consumers. Truth is this argument can never sway people from their side. Because the reasons people choose sides are more effective than any facts, any proof. Sony knows that. Nintendo does, too. They don't care about you. They want your money, and they're trying to get it with these little toys. Succeeding, too. Because be it marketing, blind faith, friends and family, or whatever, the "ignorant" share of the market makes the choices that decide failure or success.

 

[Brittany]

Hmm.
I was thinking of tackling pokejungle's huge article, but:
A. I'm too lazy
B. I'd probably flame alot
C. Pointless, considering the crowd it would be directed at.

Instead, I'll just stand by and be boring.

Are you currently living with parents in the US (bigger market then Austrailia)? No... Parents nowadays buy what's cheapest cause we're all broke thanks to Mr. George W. Bush for making the US dollar near worthless. *leaves politics* The typical American parent thinks that all video games are alike and buys whatever is cheaper.

I agree with you on the Bush part :P
But lets get serious, no matter how bad of a condition the US is in compared to previous times, it's still a spoiled nation. Price does have an impact, but when compitition is as close as it is now, it stands second to personal preferance. Considering GCN sales vs PS2, or even Xbox, they're all prime examples of why price comes secondary.

But I do agree that price does matter a bit. And nintendo said it themselves, a handheld game should always cost less than a console game. Why pay $50 for GT4 on a PSP when you can pay $50 for GT4 on PS2 with better graphics/features/everything else?

Portability, wireless multiplayer, your own screen :P

 

[Trikip]

I'm going to vote for Nintendo DS for sure, since I personally dislike sony very highly.

 

[Shadow]

Portability, wireless multiplayer, your own screen :P

Low battery life, worse graphics, lots of wasted money on a new system, less extras, less cars, no vibration (like a dual-shock controller <.< you sickos that think of it the other way), no analog sticks, no stereo surround sound... Seems the negatives outway the positives =p Keep your PS2 and get a DS.

 

[Carlito-san]

So,Shadow,are you on me and 50 other people's sides?(the Ds's)

 

[Spartan_117]

I say psp is better.Its got better grafics

 

[Shadow]

I say psp is better.Its got better grafics

*le sigh*
Graphics isn't the most important thing in gaming. A game may have the most superior graphics, but play like the vomit my dog threw up, the ate, threw up, ate, repeat, repeat. Likewise, a game might look like said vomit and be the most fantastic game storywise, re-playability-wise, and fun-wise (look its 2:30 AM, I can't think of good words........ or good examples either it seems >.> I'm referring to a dog [who I hated] which we got rid of due to moving several years ago).

 

[Kairi]

Or it could be a game about throwing a ball for a dog with bad graphics, too. XP

 

[Trikip]

*le sigh*
Graphics isn't the most important thing in gaming. A game may have the most superior graphics, but play like the vomit my dog threw up, the ate, threw up, ate, repeat, repeat. Likewise, a game might look like said vomit and be the most fantastic game storywise, re-playability-wise, and fun-wise (look its 2:30 AM, I can't think of good words........ or good examples either it seems >.> I'm referring to a dog [who I hated] which we got rid of due to moving several years ago).

Yeah, A Series for Unfortuanate Events (I spelled that wrong XD) the game for example. It has great graphics but it's a horrible game because the tasks are so easy.

 

[Carlito-san]

Let's make a comparison:

Graphics: PSP
Innovation: DS,but the PSP has some props for sticking music/UMD movies
Sound: DS(I heard the PSP has crappy sound)
Gameplay: DS
Support: DS
Durablity: DS
Media: PSP

There we go.

 

[Brittany]

Let's make a comparison:

Graphics: PSP
Innovation: DS,but the PSP has some props for sticking music/UMD movies
Sound: DS(I heard the PSP has crappy sound)
Gameplay: DS
Support: DS
Durablity: DS
Media: PSP

There we go.

I disagree.

Graphics(trivial aspect to some): PSP
Innovation: Tied? Personally, PSP
Sound: PSP
Gameplay: My personal preferance, PSP
Support: Around the same
Durability: I found DS's touch screen to be durable, and the system to not have any immediate flaws in durability, but it stands the same for PSP.
Media: PSP

I tied innovation, because I don't really care for DS's 'features'. This is just personal preferance.

DS's sound is great for a n64 quality game, and that's exactly what it is- a n64 quality game. Ridge Racer or Mario 64 for DS can't really compare to the sound of Ridge Racer on PSP.

By support, I take it that you mean game developers. And with that, PSP takes the cake. Most of Nintendo's support comes from themselves anyway, so they're tied in my view.

 

[*Chikorita*]

^I would have to disagree about your support statement for the Nintendo DS. The DS apparently has over 100 Third-party developers backing it up. =/

 

[pokejungle]

That's correct. It's already been proven that 3rd parties aren't jumping on the PSP bandwagon very fast =/

Kairi- The rest of us want 3D graphics. You can have your 2D out-dated graphics any day of the week. You think that DS games are just N64 throwbacks, well, they sure beat the GBA games. Ever played SM64DS? It rocks. Favorite handheld game.

Brittany- Try tackling the article ^_~

Sales largely depend on the company, and believe me, there are HUNDREDS of nintendo fanppl just saving up right now. The DS is one of the greatest handhelds ever thought up, and [nohardfeelings]anyone who doesn't like the DS/PSP can grab their NES and leave =P[/nohardfeelings]

 

[Carlito-san]

Obiously,Me and you are both biased.We need someone unbiased to compare the 2.

 

[*Chikorita*]

I completely agree with your post Pokejungle. ^^ And add me into the biased group billybob, becuase I defenitely am about the DS. XD