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5th Gen Encourage Ability

oh i forgot about serene grace! and dont forget the 80% chance of a sharp drop in special defence sky shaymin has with seed flare

and i would say the attack increse will be closer to 25%

Even with STAB moves a 10% of an increase would make it OP.
 
Even with STAB moves a 10% of an increase would make it OP.
Not true. In a metagame that should still revolve around types that are great defensively against these two, we can't be certain anything will be OU right out of the small info gates just because of an ability. I would not make that call until we know more. The possibilities are there, but you can't be certain.

EDIT: I'm assuming you meant OU over OP?

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no i think by OP he meant over powered.
Damn. :( I'm always a miss on this.
 
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It raises the "Power" of the move which means the base power of the move is increased. It doesn't raise the pokemon's special attack or attack stat.
Yeah I know, I was just wondering whether it rose the power of Special attack moves or only the power of attack. Thanks again for clearing this up for me :)
 
Not true. In a metagame that should still revolve around types that are great defensively against these two, we can't be certain anything will be OU right out of the small info gates just because of an ability. I would not make that call until we know more. The possibilities are there, but you can't be certain.

EDIT: I'm assuming you meant OU over OP?

no i think by OP he meant over powered.

Even with STAB moves a 10% of an increase would make it OP.

no i dont think 10% percent would really be that overpowered.. although who knows it might be horribly overpowered
 
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Even then, it would be doubtful as all we're given is just a new Pokemon and an ability, so I wouldn't jump the gun at this point and call it "overpowered". We don't even know it's base stats yet to be certain of this.

i wouldnt call it overpowered either especially since neither of the pokemon who have this ability look particularly strong. hihidaruma i imagine will be very slow and the eagle thing is a bird and a lot of stuff walls them.. and to the person who said the bird could be an UBER a while back i loled
 
no i think by OP he meant over powered.



no i dont think 10% percent would really be that overpowered.. although who knows it might be horribly overpowered

A 10% Increase STAB move is 1.65x more than the original power. It makes a move like Fire Punch, 75 original Power, increase to 123.75 Power.

i wouldnt call it overpowered either especially since neither of the pokemon who have this ability look particularly strong. hihidaruma i imagine will be very slow and the eagle thing is a bird and a lot of stuff walls them.. and to the person who said the bird could be an UBER a while back i loled

Hihidaruma most likely evolves, he doesn't look like a final form.
 
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A 10% Increase STAB move is 1.65x more than the original power. It makes a move like Fire Punch, 75 original Power, increase to 123.75 Power.

i dont think 123.75 power for fire punch would terrify me if i saw a hihidaruma tbh
 
A 10% Increase STAB move is 1.65x more than the original power. It makes a move like Fire Punch, 75 original Power, increase to 123.75 Power.



Hihidaruma most likely evolves, he doesn't look like a final form.
wow that move is more powerful than fire blast with Encourage 0_0. How much would fire blast be with that bonus...198...now that's base power 0_0.
 
i dont think 123.75 power for fire punch would terrify me if i saw a hihidaruma tbh

You are forgetting that Hihidaruma will most likely evolve. He was with the mole and Shimama during that triple battle. He also looks like he would evolve into something huge.
 
Adding onto the fact that we dont even know for certain how much this raises attack by, nor if there's any other catch with this...well yeah, I hope you can see where I'm coming from here.

Well yeah you dont have to say that every time I post a guesstimate. I am just assuming its all moves with a low percentage attack boost.
 
Why wouldn't he evolve? He is rather small and not too detailed. He fits the characteristics of a Prevo pokemon.
I felt like Zangoose could evolve, and Primeape isn't that detailed..

I don't see this one evolving, in my opinion.

Buuut that's straying a bit off-topic. Agreeing with Derk, we don't know the exact increase yet, which is vital.
 
I felt like Zangoose could evolve, and Primeape isn't that detailed..

I don't see this one evolving, in my opinion.

Buuut that's straying a bit off-topic. Agreeing with Derk, we don't know the exact increase yet, which is vital.
Well gen 1 pokemon weren't as detailed as now but you might be right about it not evolving. I hope it does evolve though.
 
Well, going from your 10% guess, wouldn't items like Charcoal and Nevermeltice etc be apparently deadly to have as well? As far as I know, they increase a select type attack by 10%, but they're still apparently useless, so I'm a bit confused here.

It could negate held items, which would make it useless as an ability.

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The above picture has an example of what Hihidaruma could look like evolved, because he is a baboon.
 
It could negate held items, which would make it useless as an ability.

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The above picture has an example of what Hihidaruma could look like evolved, because he is a baboon.
I can truly see Hihidaruma evolve into that :)
 
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