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I'm so bad when it comes to titles... really...

I just wish I had someone like Stienbeck's wife... Grapes of Wrath was a genius title... and I need a title like that for the revision of my old story... >>

A title that really reflects my story... not to mention a catchy one.

Btw... maybe I should rename this forum as the "Frostweaver Forum" seeing that Frosty is the only one really active and making threads in this subforum... XD
 
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o_O I got confused by the username and had no idea who you were, Niko. :P
 
I just had an awesome fic idea today... has anybody ever written about the move Curse?
 
Dragonfree said:
I just had an awesome fic idea today... has anybody ever written about the move Curse?
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No, never o.o Sounds interesting, though. I'm about to finish up Through Umbreon Eyes and start my next fic, Incandescent Starlight. About an Eevee...
 
Dragonfree said:
I just had an awesome fic idea today... has anybody ever written about the move Curse?
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I've read one about a Misdreavous's curse attack before, but it was a pretty bad fanfic. You know that curse is one of those moves that you *must* change the effect of the attack (or at least, not be so technical about it) in order for the oneshot to be good.
 
Akirnari didn't seem to agree with my writing style. Does anyone have any suggestions for improving it? (most everything except cocpit was spelled correctly; couldn't spell due to censoring)
 
frostweaver said:
I've read one about a Misdreavous's curse attack before, but it was a pretty bad fanfic. You know that curse is one of those moves that you *must* change the effect of the attack (or at least, not be so technical about it) in order for the oneshot to be good.
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Well, it would be the non-Ghost version of Curse. A Cursegonite, to be exact...
 
GameGuy said:
Akirnari didn't seem to agree with my writing style. Does anyone have any suggestions for improving it? (most everything except cocpit was spelled correctly; couldn't spell due to censoring)
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Flooding the story with dialogues IS a possible writing style, but not an easy one at all. Don't expect a story to come out a lot of quotation marks with some sentences. I read Pokemon fanfics for at least 2 years now, and only one writer succeeds with this writing style. Only Brian01 on fanfiction.net did a good job with this insanely difficult style of writing. Not even Yamato-san's infamous scriptfic can achieve the point where the story has nothing but dialogues.

Without reading it, one can tell if a story needs work. If a chapter is as long as a normal post, then that's an obvious sign... Lack of proper formatting (it burns the eyes) and description for your chosen narrative manner really shows by only skimming the story in a couple of seconds.

First of all, start with some planning about the story. Read the Pokemon Fanfiction Writing Guide v.2 to start (and bear with the huge document in the meantime.) Come back again when you finish reading. You'll probably have a lot of questions about it, since I don't think they have taught you some of those stuff at school yet for a 14 year old (especially narrative manner and diction.)



BTW Dragonfree, clean up your PM box because I've finished a review for you but I can't notify you through PM. Your box is full again.
 
Hi everyone, remember me? The one who wrote the terrible fanfic that received the worst grade in history, that no one could say anything nice about and therefore were pretty much flaming? Well guess what? I'm back, and I've written another Pokemon fanfic, despite all the people who told me I'd never make a decent writer. So ha. :P Bite me.
 
frostweaver said:
Without reading it, one can tell if a story needs work. If a chapter is as long as a normal post, then that's an obvious sign... Lack of proper formatting (it burns the eyes) and description for your chosen narrative manner really shows by only skimming the story in a couple of seconds.
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Not to mention the difference between these " " and these " ". They tell me if they actually did it in Word or not...

And block format burns my eyes... and they leave me blind for a day or two... >>
 
Hmm... I still did do it in word, I just refused to change the quotations. Also, I'm sorry if it bothers you, but until I find a better way, tabs don't work, so I use _'s. One last thing: the quotes are there to show character and to explain the story. It was going to be either a comic or a cartoon, but I suck at manga and flash. And, believe it or not, we were taught proper storywriting last quarter. (now we're on Romeo and Juliet, and I've been inspired to do a pkmn version...)
 
Akina...Niko ._. said:
Not to mention the difference between these " " and these ? ?. They tell me if they actually did it in Word or not...
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Actually, I use a WordPerfect which is kind of like Word and it always converts my quotation marks from ? ? to " " when I save and exit. Or when I c/p directly from WordPerfect to ff.net, my quotation marks convert to the straight ones. So you really can't tell if someone is using a word processor or not since not everyone has Word.

'Course the majority of people do have Word so meh to me.
 
Tabs should work. You just need to set your Message Editor Interface to basic or standard editor, but not enchanced. It's no excuse if your story will not copy and paste directly, because how come everyone else found a way to get out of that problem? Also, the indent isn't that important at all. Block format is what hurts the most. You must have a blank line between paragraphs or else the eyes will seriously burn for a couple of days.

But Breezy, the problem is that GameGuy said that the story is done in Word, so therefore it should behave like all the other word documents...

If it's going to be either a comic or cartoon transferred to words, then most of the time it should turn out to be a scriptfic. And, since you're studying Romeo and Juliet, I'm very sure that you already know what the proper format for scripts are.

As you've said, you've been taught proper storywriting. Try to recall the lesson about how to write the title, especially the rule about no 1337/alternative spelling... (note: Comedic story's title can use it, but there's still unwritten laws about how to use them. Comedic story's title has its own laws on how to tell the readers that it's a comedy, so the readers will understand the reason why the title is either spelt wrong, or why it uses alternative spelling.)

Either way, the main problem is the absurd amount of dialogues. Most of them are irrelevant/redundant too... It's an automatic repel aura against readers if they see that the fanfic is composed of both narratives and dialogues, yet every paragraph starts with a dialogue and is no longer than 2 lines long on average.
 
O_o

Um, okay, it's a half-truth. I write it in Notepad, then copy it to MS Word.

And, could you give me an example of something I wrote and how you would improve it? I don't really understand what you're asking for unless you explain it a little more simpler.
 
frostweaver said:
Flooding the story with dialogues IS a possible writing style, but not an easy one at all. Don't expect a story to come out a lot of quotation marks with some sentences. I read Pokemon fanfics for at least 2 years now, and only one writer succeeds with this writing style. Only Brian01 on fanfiction.net did a good job with this insanely difficult style of writing. Not even Yamato-san's infamous scriptfic can achieve the point where the story has nothing but dialogues.
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Oh, you mean like a radio drama? I could possibly pull that off. Problem is, I just don't feel like doing one of those.

frostweaver said:
If it's going to be either a comic or cartoon transferred to words, then most of the time it should turn out to be a scriptfic. And, since you're studying Romeo and Juliet, I'm very sure that you already know what the proper format for scripts are.
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Heh heh.... I never even read Shakespeare.

GameGuy said:
It was going to be either a comic or a cartoon, but I suck at manga and flash. And, believe it or not, we were taught proper storywriting last quarter. (now we're on Romeo and Juliet, and I've been inspired to do a pkmn version...)
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So what if you suck, recruit someone. May not be an easy task, finding someone willing to do something that's completely volunteer work, but that's why you gotta make an effort. That's what I intend to do. One place I'd recommend is searching around Deviant Art, since several of the people there are extremely good manga artists. It really helps to know that an artist you spot isn't busy with their own projects (several Deviants are working on some kind of series), and it also helps if you know they have an interest in Pokemon. Make sure to be on the look-out for such artists. And if you don't intend to recruit, just practice, you may hone your own skills over time. The same applies to Flash movies just as much as manga.

In any case, make sure you have your story in its final draft before you try drawing anything (posting the script as a fanfic's a good way to get comments, like what I'm doing right now). Typing words is very, very easy, but drawing isn't something you'd want to redo if you were to change your mind on anything. With that in mind, you may not want to recruit an illustrater until after you get the story finalized. You wouldn't want to put your artist on hold for an indefinite amount of time, now would you? Follow these tips, and you may be able to produce something pretty good.
 
Basically a radio drama/Shakespearean play. Radio drama is dialogues in its purest form. Shakespearean got a stage direction once every 9 pages, maybe. To me, Shakespeare will also qualify for a piece of writing with nothing but dialogues.

It's insanely hard because the word choices have to be so careful and precise... analyzing even one of those in school means an 8 hour worth of re-reading in order to dig even half of all those meanings from the dialogue. >>; Pain...

Yes Yamato-san. In technicaly theory, Pocket Monster Chronicles *still* doesn't follow the very proper/professional scriptfic style format. I'm not picky to that extent, though...

If you want, submit an official fanfic review request to me in the Writing Academy thread (click link), and I'll line your request with the other author's. When I get to it (err... a month? >> I dunno) I'll do a detailed breakdown of your fanfic.



On another topic now, does anyone realize that anybody can start a new thread in the fanfiction archive? If it's meant to be an archive, maybe there should be some measures to stop people from starting a new thread there, yet allow people to update a story there...
 
I take it you're referring to that "Why doesn't Ash date Misty" thread that some n00b posted there just recently, right? I agree, there should be some measures taken. That archive's meant for people like myself who put an effort into stories to eventually get enough acclaim warranting a spot in a sub-forum that seperates it from that kind of crap (once again, I'm glad to finally have that ^^).
 
Yamato-san said:
I take it you're referring to that "Why doesn't Ash date Misty" thread that some n00b posted there just recently, right? I agree, there should be some measures taken. That archive's meant for people like myself who put an effort into stories to eventually get enough acclaim warranting a spot in a sub-forum that seperates it from that kind of crap (once again, I'm glad to finally have that ^^).
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Now, now, be nice ^^; Nothing is written there, so we don't know if the upcoming fanfic is good or not.
 
yeah, but isn't it specifically against the rules to have a thread that doesn't have a chapter or prologue of the story posted yet?
 
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