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How do you feel about crossover fics?
I don't doubt that they can be done well by a skilled author, but I have yet to see one that's done well AND involves fandoms that I am familiar with. I recall one fic from way back when where the author inexplicably added characters from Sonic, KH, One Piece, and at least two others that I can't think of, and they randomly put them in around chapter 10 of the fic.
 
Ok. How to state this. I've never had to generate any attention to a fanfic, since this would be my first, but here goes.
I've been working on a Pokemon Fanfic for the better of a month now, and I want to post it soon. But first, I'd like someone to look it over, to give a review, suggestions, and proof-reading before I post it. If someone would like to volunteer, please PM me, and I'll send you a copy of what I have so far.
And to not make this post wasted kilobytes, I'll answer some of the questions from earlier...

Why do you use Pokemon nicknames?

I don't.

How important is the title of a fic?
Very important, I think. It's the one line advertisement. If it is dull or irrelevant, people are going to look right past it, and move to something else. This is why I'm still thinking of a name for mine.

Who/What inspired you to write your fic?
All the other Fanfics on PC. As well, I've always wanted to give my expression of the Pokemon World. Because I can't draw, pixelate, sing, or make any other art-form worth a penny, writing was the only thing that came to mind.

Is it okay to cut down on the description when you're trying to add a mysterious atmosphere to your chapter?
Yes. No. I don't know. Am I on trial? Is it important? Uhh... Answer #2. Um... The war of 1812? Oh I know! It's a definite maybe.

How do you feel about "n00b" comments about your fic?
I don't, because I haven't had any. :)

Do you welcome the use of legendary Pokemon in your fic(s) or try to stay away from them?

In the right circumstance, yes. But to center a fic around a legendary is kinda against the point. Legendary's are supposed to be like the wind. Heard of and not seen often. IMO, of course.
 
Mmm... I just loathe being ignored, especially when I asked so politely for help... I guess this is incentive for me to go inactive until Feral Twilight's ready to be posted...

But, before doing so...

Who/What inspired you to write your fic?

I'm kind of my own inspiration for my current project Feral Twilight (or at least for the central character). In the fic, Jay Christie was always an underdog when it came to stuff. He had to struggle and a lot to get to where he did in the fic (ie, he became champion of his home region called Ronac). But, losing that to his sister Megan, who always seemed to get her way (kind of a similar case to me and my sister, though not the exact same thing), it was kind of hard to see his life smash to bits. Now, his inability to let stuff go, that's something unique to him, not me.
 
Mmm... I just loathe being ignored, especially when I asked so politely for help... I guess this is incentive for me to go inactive until Feral Twilight's ready to be posted...

If it's minor details, you don't necessarily have to describe them right away, I think. Rather, attempt to work them into the story by bringing them up when they become relevant. For example, you mention that Incinermyn's body has fire that sprouts from it (if I'm reading this correctly). You could handle this by:

1. Having the fire suddenly flare up with his emotions (a la Typhlosion).
2. Describing a bit of the environment being affected by this fire (e.g. smoke curling from the fire, the air being warmed by it, the wind blowing across it to make it dance).
3. Having someone else comment or observe it. ("It's raining. You need to get inside before your fire burns out. I can already see scorch marks.")

Of course, there's more ways to do it, but those are just examples. In general, though, sometimes, you can get away with not mentioning certain details until you need them. It's like not mentioning that a character has long nails until you see her filing them or scratching someone with them.

Hope that helps.
 
Do you welcome the use of legendary Pokemon in your fic(s) or try to stay away from them?

Personally I'm not too fond of Legendaries even in the games, they're a getting little too important to the story. They're not legendary if everyone knows they really exist. Passing references, dreams and the like are the only places I'll have them show for any OCs, considering that it was supposed to be SUPER AMAZING that Ash even caught a glimpse of Ho-oh. Characters who have actually even seen them should be rare and catching them is a huge no-no.

I'll read a well written fic with prominent legendaries, but it'll have to be very interesting and well written.
 
If it's minor details, you don't necessarily have to describe them right away, I think. Rather, attempt to work them into the story by bringing them up when they become relevant. For example, you mention that Incinermyn's body has fire that sprouts from it (if I'm reading this correctly). You could handle this by:

1. Having the fire suddenly flare up with his emotions (a la Typhlosion).
2. Describing a bit of the environment being affected by this fire (e.g. smoke curling from the fire, the air being warmed by it, the wind blowing across it to make it dance).
3. Having someone else comment or observe it. ("It's raining. You need to get inside before your fire burns out. I can already see scorch marks.")

Of course, there's more ways to do it, but those are just examples. In general, though, sometimes, you can get away with not mentioning certain details until you need them. It's like not mentioning that a character has long nails until you see her filing them or scratching someone with them.

Hope that helps.

More than you know. Thanks, Jax. Since the two are battling each other, though, I decided to describe how each of their respective features change from they're regular appearance to how they look when the creature's are prepping for their attacks... Not sure if it's the single best method, but I thought it'd be interesting for the part where the two appear together.
 
Do you welcome the use of legendary Pokemon in your fic(s) or try to stay away from them?

I'm trying to write a 'fic now, and I'm still at the beginning of the third chapter. It's a New Trainer Fanfic, and my first in the Pokémon genre.

I'll try my very best to avoid the legendary Pokémon, though may bend the rule and mention something about a presence or something. The only reason I'll do this is because, let's face it, legendary Pokémon are strong, they are rare, and I don't think chances are high on my beginning Trainer having an encounter with all of them.
 
チッ、また…もう一つの問題を気づけたな。

[cough] Say, I've got a bit of a dilemma. In a bit of a save-the-world scenario, I plan to portray the protagonist as a rather unskilled and unmotivated "Trainer" who happens to have a powerful Pokemon through certain circumstances. The Trainer and Pokemon have bonded, of course, but there are much more skilled Trainers who require the Pokemon's assistance. The Trainer, meanwhile, feels he has a huge responsibility, and even tries chickening out of saving the world at some points, leaving the other Trainers to use his Pokemon (which doesn't seem like a particularly "wrong" thing to do, considering his apparent worth towards the situation at first glance). I'm really wondering how to keep the protagonist involved throughout the story's run. The aforementioned bond seems worth working with, but aside from being a bit cliched and cheesy (though, maybe not with proper execution), does it seem extremely realistic? I mean, I won't deny that Pokemon would perform best when in a healthy mental state, but for it to be so significant? And even if the more experienced Trainer has also bonded with the Pokemon in the past (albeit a lot less than its initial partner), not to mention the pressure of what's at stake? Maybe it could work out, but I'm wondering if there're alternate ways to go about this. For the record, I want the Trainer to stay with his Pokemon, but I don't want him to suddenly become overly confident and then become some pro overnight.

My God, that exists?! *is shot repeatedly*

well.... actually, I might have a rape scenario, but only if you get a bad ending. Being a game and all, multiple endings are possible. Speaking of which, this brings up another fine question.

What's the most objectionable thing you plan to add to your story (if you haven't done so already)?

For me, it depends on the story (since I have many in the works) and what the target audience is. With an erogee.... yeah, there's really not much to hide with pornography. Though, I guess the aforementioned rape ending would be pushing it. In one of my serials, the majority of the content seen throughout the story gets to be no worse than something you'd see on Adult Swim (hell, it even enters a peaceful, slice-of-life mode at several points). However, later into the story, I'm intending for some deaths and violent acts to be pretty gruesome (one man's stabbed in the eye with an unbent paper clip, for instance), and one of the main antagonists even performs acts of cannibalism and rape (albeit undetailed rape with most of it off-panel).

Anyway, I've been neglecting some questions lately. Better get to them.

Why do you use Pokemon nicknames?
I guess to personify the Pokemon a bit better.

How important is the title of a fic?
Kinda important. It could help you get noticed, but I guess a lot of your viewers will be through word of mouth and other things. And since I'm doing doujinshi, the title friggin' pales in comparison to how the artwork would look and what what the art would portray (though, a catchy title is still good).

Who/What inspired you to write your fic?
I started off with a concept from my little brother. For the record, though, my brother himself didn't drive me (I barely even want to associate him with my work now after all the times he acted like such a prick).... he just put some basic idea in my head and I wanted to expand on it. I guess I was drawn to it because I liked the idea of a dark Pokemon story (though, this was before I realized that several people already wrote fics like that). Plus, the Pokemon anime was at a severe low-point at the time, being in mid-Jouto.... you can imagine it was extremely disappointing in terms of giving any kind of decent Pokemon-related stories (or hell, any story that wasn't just a plot recycled from the previous week -_-).

In the meantime, I'm watching shows like Digimon (especially Digimon Tamers), Outlaw Star, Inuyasha (what can I say? The show sucked later on, but its beginning was decent enough), Silent Mobius, Sailor Moon S, and some others. I was still relatively new to anime at the time, and I was just beginning to see what this eastern media was really capable of. I couldn't help but think how mature a lot of anime is, using effective drama (a lot of it not overly cheesy like some bad soap opera) and not afraid to delve into complicated issues, namely matters of life and death. It kinda made me wish the Pokemon anime could go in a similar direction: a darker, more dramatic storyline with continuing plot arcs, something we don't usually see with its light-hearted atmosphere and extremely episodic formula. Part of it's kinda shallow, and of course my mindset's much more different today, but yes, most of my stories did originally evolve from this idea (ironically, I was never one of those idiots who thinks that Pokemon's all gory and sexual in the Japanese version.... probably because so many sites mentioned the banned episodes and, aside from Kojirou's bodysuit, nothing in the screenshots seemed that different from what's usually seen in the English version. I saw screenshots of episodes that were still not in America, as well).

Is it okay to cut down on the description when you're trying to add a mysterious atmosphere to your chapter?
manga, don't do description.... however, I wouldn't mind keeping certain characters in shadow or with some features off-panel to keep them ominous until they're fully revealed.

How do you feel about "n00b" comments about your fic?
n00bs are the scum of the internet. In other words, their posts are largely ignorable and a huge waste of time.

Do you welcome the use of legendary Pokemon in your fic(s) or try to stay away from them?
legendary Pokemon are practically gods, and a lot of my storylines do seem to play around with religion and man's perception of God, so they're only too welcome in such cases. I even have them captured by certain characters at times (partly to remind the audience that, seemingly gods or not, these ARE Pokemon, and as much as fanfic authors I keep seeing on threads like this want to deny it, they can be controlled by humans.... though, it kinda helps that the ones doing the capturing are usually antagonists). Mind you, they don't play a role in ALL of my stories, but even then, a small cameo might not be entirely impossible (especially Giratina, whom I could associate with death as something of a Grim Reaper).

EDIT: Bleh.... damn forum being unable to post foreign characters properly. -_- Ah well, not like many people could read what I put there anyway.
 
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Did you say fan fiction challenge?

I don't know if this is the right place for this... I hope it is.
Why don't we have a fanfiction writing challenge? You know someone come up with an idea you have to write about, or you story has to include Ash doing something so many times, or something like that. I think that would be alot of fun. =3 I'm kind of fail on ideas now... so I think that it would be great.

Anyone have any ideas?

EDIT: These are just for fun guys!!! NOT a contest.
 
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For one-shots or short stories, this would be a good idea, say, someone comes up with a theme, like, 'Articuno', and we'd all have to write a shrt story fo some sort on Articuno.

So, I'm all for it.
 
I was actually thinking of doing something like this. :3

What I was thinking was that a Pokemon or some common theme would be given and everyone could write a story based on that prompt. I don't know if anyone wants to do a word cap, but I'm leaning towards no on that one.

This will be fun.

Should we make it into more of a contest? Or just a free-for-all, where we just share our stories? I like the latter on that one.
 
Yeah I really like the idea of the latter one. But maybe twice a year, have a contest for something, and post the winner for all to see. =]
I'm game for it, and would be excited for it to get going.
 
You have my approval to get this going, so you can go ahead with it. ^^ And if you need any help, just ask.

I like the idea of a contest only once or twice a year. But for now, why don't we just start with just a few prompts to see how things run.

Should we just do Pokemon-only prompts, like Oni Raichu suggested? Like say "Bulbasaur" and see what people come up with for a story centered around that Pokemon? Or should it be a general prompt, like "growth" and go from there?

Either way, I'm fine with it.

And yes, everyone, this is mod-approved. ^^
 
Sweet!! Hmmm... Like I said in the first post, I'm clear out of ideas... School has been getting to me *headdesk* So, Hanako, would you like to take the honors in choosing a topic first?
 
Oh I know that... but it would be like a shipping, or a theme with the pokemon characters, or even a pokemon that the person would write about. Even a move like cut would work.
 
What's the most objectionable thing you plan to add to your story (if you haven't done so already)?
The Fall of a Leader contains semi-pedophilic rape. And the rapist is one of the main protagonists. Granted, the whole story more or less revolves around his utter moral destruction with that as its climax, but he's the POV character for that half of the story. Of course, it's not described graphically.

[cough] Say, I've got a bit of a dilemma. In a bit of a save-the-world scenario, I plan to portray the protagonist as a rather unskilled and unmotivated "Trainer" who happens to have a powerful Pokemon through certain circumstances. The Trainer and Pokemon have bonded, of course, but there are much more skilled Trainers who require the Pokemon's assistance. The Trainer, meanwhile, feels he has a huge responsibility, and even tries chickening out of saving the world at some points, leaving the other Trainers to use his Pokemon (which doesn't seem like a particularly "wrong" thing to do, considering his apparent worth towards the situation at first glance). I'm really wondering how to keep the protagonist involved throughout the story's run. The aforementioned bond seems worth working with, but aside from being a bit cliched and cheesy (though, maybe not with proper execution), does it seem extremely realistic? I mean, I won't deny that Pokemon would perform best when in a healthy mental state, but for it to be so significant? And even if the more experienced Trainer has also bonded with the Pokemon in the past (albeit a lot less than its initial partner), not to mention the pressure of what's at stake? Maybe it could work out, but I'm wondering if there're alternate ways to go about this. For the record, I want the Trainer to stay with his Pokemon, but I don't want him to suddenly become overly confident and then become some pro overnight.
I'd personally say it would be the most interesting if you just had the protagonist forced into the plot somehow. Of course, I don't really know enough to know exactly how you need him to be "involved" with the story and depending on this (and other things) this may or may not work.
 
Should we just do Pokemon-only prompts, like Oni Raichu suggested? Like say "Bulbasaur" and see what people come up with for a story centered around that Pokemon? Or should it be a general prompt, like "growth" and go from there?

Personally, I think you'd get more results with the latter. While, yes, every fic should be Pokemon for the sake of the forum, it just promotes freedom of creativity (on the part of both the Master of Ceremonies and the writers) if you go for a wider range of possible prompts. You'll still be restricted, but at least you can define for yourself who is in the story or what the prompt means if you just go for something like "growth" or even "umbrella." Using Pokemon as names sort of implies that you're aiming for a specific cast (one of which should be a Bulbasaur).

Unless, of course, you're going for the 50 Passages route by having the prompt just inspire the fic, but then you'd have to get the writers to explain how a scene with Jessie and James eating ice cream has anything to do with Bulbasaur.

That said, I like challenges. Not so much contests, personally. I wouldn't mind doing it so much if there weren't prizes involved, and it was more or less just a prompt challenge that closes after a certain amount of time. (15 Minute Ficlets ran along similar lines, if I recall correctly.) I say this mostly because I typically avoid contests (except for one) because of the air they sometimes have. It tends to be hard to find good, objective judges. Let me leave it at that.

Edit: So, uh, just saw Yuna's post, and I'll say, yes, this is what I was hoping for. XD
 
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