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[Other✓] Few questions and stuff

The ???

The ???

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    Hi all! I just started modifying the Fire Red version, as I am one of those people who LOVE Kanto and want to experience it with advanced features.. I have started adding new Pokemon's and stuff.
    I started this all today with the help of MrDs's and JPAN's patch and I am using G3HS and I have MEH too..

    *cough enough about that. My questions are :

    - Which tool is required to PLACE NEW ITEMS in locations and how to do it?
    - HOW do I add a new trainer class?
    - Which tool to use to edit trainers (fully) that is compatible with new moves/mons that we add?
    - Any tool to change people's dialoges?

    Note: the only knowledge I have about hacking is that it starts with H and ends with G. so please be a little LESS harsh to answer my stupidity.

    I have also a few ideas that I need comments on..(more like need your ideas) :
    - Would it be wise to add all the GenI-VI mons appear in wold? I mean it would feel SOO weird encountering 15 different Pokemon's in 1 grass patch.
    - What kind of STORY and POST-GAME stuff should be incorporated in this to give it a original, yet digestable new Pokemon's and stuff. In other words, what would you like to see as an addition in story and stuff for a Kanto Gen VI REMAKE.

    Thanks for answering and looking at my thread :D ^^
     
    The '???' said:
    - Which tool is required to PLACE NEW ITEMS in locations and how to do it?
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    You can use Advance Map for that. Google for some tutorials on inserting offsets into events on AM. (That's why I don't like MEH. You cannot add new events in maps.) If you know how to script, you can just write a little script that applies to the Poké Ball sprite on the map. If you don't know how to script, learn scripting with this tutorial. It's easy to understand, and if you're lazy just let PKSV write the script for you. Be sure to check out the first tutorial on the site too, it will make scripting familiar with you.

    The '???' said:
    - Any tool to change people's dialoges?
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    Again, scripting. It is the best (and most easy) way to make everything on the map work. You can edit text with Advance Text too, but it is very limited that way.

    The '???' said:
    - Would it be wise to add all the GenI-VI mons appear in wold?
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    First off, it will cost weeks to implement every single Pokémon until Gen VI. (It will take even longer to crack forme changes of Rotom, Shaymin, etc.) Second, even if you succeed in adding them all, it will be nearly impossible to make every single one appear in the wild. You need about an hour of scripting per route/place to make them all work. I've never seen a map editor that edits wild Pokémon (AM, MEH, etc.) having more than about ten slots, so you have to script it then. This is not meant harsh, but seriously, it would take big effort to make it all work.
     
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    Firstly thanks a lot :D
    That link was quite epic, now I can script pretty well imo..
    And I think I can handle adding new mons.. (Yesterday I added the turtwig line easily enough, took half an hour though).
    Also about editing Wild mons.. Wait! Almost all hacks I have seen have new regions and DIFFERENT Pokemon's appearing in wild. Can you explain that better?

    I would like your opinions on other things I posted too if you have time :)


    EDIT : hmm, Why can't I open my ROM with A-Map? It says that rom cannot be opened with it. :/
     
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    Slowpoke13 said:
    (That's why I don't like MEH. You cannot add new events in maps.)
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    To be fair, MEH is in an alpha stage. You can't really expect much out of it right now :p

    The '???' said:
    - HOW do I add a new trainer class?
    - Which tool to use to edit trainers (fully) that is compatible with new moves/mons that we add?
    - Any tool to change people's dialoges?
    - What kind of STORY and POST-GAME stuff should be incorporated in this to give it a original, yet digestable new Pokemon's and stuff. In other words, what would you like to see as an addition in story and stuff for a Kanto Gen VI REMAKE.
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    - If you're trying to add a new trainer class without replacing existing trainer classes, you'd have to repoint and expand the trainer classes table, me thinks. Of course, I haven't actually bothered to expand the number of trainer classes, so I'm not sure if it'd be more complicated than that, but I doubt it'd be too complicated to accomplish.
    - As for a trainer editor that's compatible with new moves, you can use Jambo's trainer editor, adjust the ini file, and have fun. G3T's trainer editor should work too, with similar ini adjustments.
    - You can change the dialogues through XSE. Just give your NPC a new script with your new dialogue.
    - Tbh, I think Kanto's story is just fine as it is. You could make an NPC mention the fairy type, but other than that, if you're aiming to make a remake, you should probably keep the story as original as possible.

    The '???' said:
    Also about editing Wild mons.. Wait! Almost all hacks I have seen have new regions and DIFFERENT Pokemon's appearing in wild. Can you explain that better?
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    There's a tab in AMap that allows you to edit the wild Pokemon available in a route. Edit away.
     
    The '???' said:
    Hi all! I just started modifying the Fire Red version, as I am one of those people who LOVE Kanto and want to experience it with advanced features.. I have started adding new Pokemon's and stuff.
    I started this all today with the help of MrDs's and JPAN's patch and I am using G3HS and I have MEH too..

    *cough enough about that. My questions are :

    - Which tool is required to PLACE NEW ITEMS in locations and how to do it?
    - HOW do I add a new trainer class?
    - Which tool to use to edit trainers (fully) that is compatible with new moves/mons that we add?
    - Any tool to change people's dialoges?

    Note: the only knowledge I have about hacking is that it starts with H and ends with G. so please be a little LESS harsh to answer my stupidity.

    I have also a few ideas that I need comments on..(more like need your ideas) :
    - Would it be wise to add all the GenI-VI mons appear in wold? I mean it would feel SOO weird encountering 15 different Pokemon's in 1 grass patch.
    - What kind of STORY and POST-GAME stuff should be incorporated in this to give it a original, yet digestable new Pokemon's and stuff. In other words, what would you like to see as an addition in story and stuff for a Kanto Gen VI REMAKE.
    Click to expand...

    I would have to agree with slowpoke13 on the things he said.
    Also
    - HOW do I add a new trainer class?
    Use Unnamed Trainer Editor

    What kind of STORY and POST-GAME stuff should be incorporated in this to give it a original, yet digestable new Pokemon's and stuff. In other words, what would you like to see as an addition in story and stuff for a Kanto Gen VI REMAKE.

    Thats more up to you as the hacker. I don't play kanto that much as I prefer Johto.:P
    But look around at other hacks that do similar things. You may get an idea.
     
    The '???' said:
    - HOW do I add a new trainer class?
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    If you're only adding a few new trainer classes, it's extremely easy. If you're using Advance Trainer or Unnamed Trainer Editor, you can just pick one of the unused trainer classes from the dropdown menu (Such as Magma Leader, Magma Grunt...etc) and then manually change it to whatever you want in the other box that the name shows up. This will replace the unused trainer class with your new one.


    - What kind of STORY and POST-GAME stuff should be incorporated in this to give it a original, yet digestable new Pokemon's and stuff. In other words, what would you like to see as an addition in story and stuff for a Kanto Gen VI REMAKE.
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    Add some gyms to the Sevii islands. Implementing gyms and a few other events here and there will make the islands feel like their own region and extend the game.
     
    Alright guys, thanks so much. But I have a question :

    - How do I open my ROM (MrDS's and JPAN's patches APPLIED) in Advance Map and in Un=named trainer editor?

    I already tried to change the "BPRE" to "MrDS" in .ini of trainer editor, it opened but didn't show the info of pokemon's EXPECT the levels.. it was horrying.
    *I only know this coz this worked in G3HS*
     
    are you sure that would work? coz G3HS won't see the new moves and abilities then? (I DONT KNOW)

    Also, whenever I am currently replacing the sprites with NEW DS styled ones provided in the resource topic.. and most of the time it asks me to REPOINT the image, and I randomly select one in the given list. (Using G3HS)
    Am I doing something wrong or stuff? just asking.
     
    The '???' said:
    Also, whenever I am currently replacing the sprites with NEW DS styled ones provided in the resource topic.. and most of the time it asks me to REPOINT the image, and I randomly select one in the given list. (Using G3HS)
    Am I doing something wrong or stuff? just asking.
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    That's perfectly normal. If you don't repoint a sprite after inserting it, the game will just forget about the sprite and, say, you meet a newly inserted Turtwig for example, then your game will crash or just load a black sprite.
     
    GREAT! :D
    That means, my effort of updating 250 sprites (as of now) didn't go in vain :P

    Someone please answer that how can I make A-Map and Trainer-Editor work with the patched rom and its changes :/ really can't progress in ANYTHING until that's done (can't even try the scripting I learned yesterday)

    EDIT :
    Knight of Duty said:
    You need to manually change the MrDS in your ROM with BPRE . Open up hex editor and load it up and around line 0xac change MrDS to BPRE
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    I did thanks, still the Trainer-Editor is showing BLANK stuff everywhere! :/

    As for A-MAP, it now throws a NEW error.

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    EDIT 2 :
    I'm now using A-MAP 1.92 instead,.. it gives some errors, but works. However, can't find pokemons after Chimecho, I saw a post that HEX edits the a-map to allow roughly 60 more pokemons to appear in the A-map but doesn't help since I have a lot lol.. GALP HALP HALP GALP
     
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    The '???' said:
    Hi! Thanks a lot~

    AFTER a lot of research and STUFF and HEX!!
    I finally am able to make the Advanced Map work with NEW wild mons without problems!

    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Now, all I need is a tutorial to make Unnamed Trainer Editor to work too.. :D
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    Same way, ammend the ini to the new changes, it might've been the pokemon names?
    ~Eclipse
     
    I have literally no clue how to achieve that. Please give some steps.

    Anyone can make/help me with the .ini of Unnamed trainer editor? Please :D
     
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    The '???' said:
    Anyone can make/help me with the .ini of Unnamed trainer editor? Please :D
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    Not trying to make you feel bad or anything, but did you not notice this?

    MoveNames=0x247094
    NumberOfMoves=355
    ItemData=0x3DB028
    NumberOfItems=375
    PokemonNames=0x245EE0
    NumberOfPokemon=411

    ^ That's from Unnamed Trainer Editor's unedited ini, in case you didn't get it.

    1. Look at G3HS's ini.

    2. Copy paste necessary stuff to UTE's ini.

    3. ???

    4. Profit.

    I'll stop with the South Park jokes now good luck
     
    HidoranBlaze said:
    Not trying to make you feel bad or anything, but did you not notice this?

    MoveNames=0x247094
    NumberOfMoves=355
    ItemData=0x3DB028
    NumberOfItems=375
    PokemonNames=0x245EE0
    NumberOfPokemon=411

    ^ That's from Unnamed Trainer Editor's unedited ini, in case you didn't get it.

    1. Look at G3HS's ini.

    2. Copy paste necessary stuff to UTE's ini.

    3. ???

    4. Profit.

    I'll stop with the South Park jokes now good luck
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    DUUUUUUDE! that helped a lot! FINALLY I changed everything that I should (I think?), but still some trainer's (most actually) moves are still un-changable/see-able. Also held items, I can't change.
    Here's a screenshot :

    Spoiler:


    And here's ini details :
    Trainer Editor's INI
    Code: 
    [MrDS]
MoveNames=0x901800
NumberOfMoves=0x1FF
ItemData=0x3DB028
NumberOfItems=0x177
PokemonNames=0x7200ec
NumberOfPokemon=0x2F1
TrainerTable=0x23EAF0
NumberOfTrainers=0x2E6
ClassNamesLocation=0x23E558
NumberOfClassNames=0x6B
TrainerImageTable=0x23957C
NumberOfTrainerImages=147
TrainerPaletteTable=0x239A1C
ClassMoneyLocation=0x24F220
EncounterMusicExtraInfo="0,4,5,8,A,B,C,D~0x11D","1,2,9~0x11C","3,6,7,*~0x11B"
[/MrDS]

    G3HS's INI
    Code: 
    [0006]
name = MrDollSteak's Decap and Attack Rombase (5)
gamecode = BPRE
numberofpokes = 0x2f1
pokebasestats = 0x722144
pokebasestatslength = 0x1C
pokenames = 0x7200ec
pokenameslength = 0xB
typenames = 0x961B50
typenameslength = 0x7
numberoftypes = 24
items = 0x3DB028
numberofitems = 0x177
itemsdatalength = 0x2C
abilities = 0x950000
numberofabilities = 0x9C
abiltiesnamelength = 0xD
egggroups = Monster,Water1,Bug,Flying,Field,Fairy,Grass,Human-Like,Water3,Mineral,Amorphous,Water2,Ditto,Dragon,Undiscovered
leveluptypes = Medium-Fast,Erratic,Fluctuating,Medium-Slow,Fast,Slow
learnedmoves = 0x7273a4
learnedmoveslength = 0x2
attacknames = 0x901800
numberofattacks = 0x1FF
attacknamelength = 0xD
eggmovepointer1 = 0x045C50
eggmovepointer2 = 0x045CC8
eggmovelimit = 0x045CC4
tmhmcompatibility = 0x7377f8
tmhmcompatibilitylength = 8
tmlist = 0x45A80C
tmlistentrylength = 2
numberoftms = 50
numberofhms = 8
evolutiontable = 0x739568
evolutionsperpoke = 5
lengthofoneentry = 8
evolutionmethods = Breeding Only,Friendship,Friendship (Day),Friendship (Night),Level-Up,Trade,Trade (Hold Item),Stone,ATK > DEF,ATK = DEF,ATK < DEF,PID (Wurmple->Silcoon),PID (Wurmple->Cascoon),Spawn a Second,Create Spawn,Beauty
evomethodsproperties = None,None,None,None,Level,None,Item,Item,Level,Level,Level,Level,Level,Level,Level,None
evolutiontablepointers = 0x42F6C,0x42FBC,0x43138,0x4599C,0xCE8C4
offsetstochangetolslr0r60x1 = 0x42f9c,0x43182,0x43026,0x43008,0x43016,0x43050,0x4307A,0x430A8,0x430C8,0x430EC,0x430FC
offsetstochangetonewminus1 = 0x43116,0x4319e,0x459A2
theshedinjafix = 0xCE766
changetonewnumbertimes8 = 0x4598A,0x459C0,0x4598E,0x459C2
pokedex = 0x731224
lengthofpokedexentry = 0x24
nationaldexorder = 0x730c40
numofnondexpokesbetweencelebiandtreeko = 25
numofnondexpokesafterchimecho = 28
dextype = FRLG
jambo51learnedmovehack = False
movetutorcomp = 0x738f84
movetutorcomplen = 2
movetutorattacks = 0x459B60
mtattackslen = 2
mtattacksnum = 15
frontspritetable = 0x7280ac
backspritetable = 0x729840
frontpalettetable = 0x72afd4
shinypalettetable = 0x72c768
enemyytable = 0x72eac4
playerytable = 0x72defc
enemyaltitudetable = 0x72f68c
iconspritetable = 0x72fd84
iconpalettetable = 0x73094c
iconpalettes = 0x3D3740
numiconpalettes = 3
itemanimationtable = 0x740b14
itemanimationtableentlen = 5
hoenncryauxtable = 0x7419cc
footprints = 0x741d88
habitats = 0x452c4c
habitatpointers = 0x106888,0x1068C8,0x106990,0x1069F8,0x106A98
locationnames = 0x3F1CAC
locationstart = 0x58
locationend = 0xC4
locationtblfmt = 1
     
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