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4th Gen Giovanni's fate..?

In HeartGold/SoulSilver Did Giovanni Commit Suicide

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 25.7%

  • No

    Votes: 18 51.4%

  • I don't Care

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Who is Giovanni?

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
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When given crazy and not-so-crazy theories abotu canonical hidden messages, ask yourself this:

DO YOU THINK THAT SATOSHI TAJIRI-SENSEI WAS IMPLYING THIS TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND WANTS IT TO BE A PART OF POKEMON?

I don't think so. I don't think that Satoshi would put this in a game he is marketing to kids from 10 to 15. I also don't think that he would find this neccessary in a game that is reflecting his childhood bug hunting experiences in a larger form. Perhaps somebody close to him committed suicide when he was that age, but I highly doubt it. Nonetheless this is an interesting theory you have peiced together here! Just ask yourself that everytime you wonder if it is true.
 
I've seen this theory hundreds of times...

However, I'd alter Theory 1 and agree with that one.

Because, if he goes out of the Kanto side, he can use HM03 Surf, right?

Nidoking is capable of learning Surf. And, even if it isn't used in the battle, he's Giovanni, so he probably just taught it the technique to get out (he probably got in, deleted it, used a tm).
 
This thread doesn't belong here, but rather Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver as you specified that in the title and the content of the original post.
 
Maybe its one of those things with a double meaning. you know how kinda like in some movies they have kid and adult humor? maybe it could be something like that? but then again, some theories I've seen above are right, and I don't think anyone has ever died in pokemon before, although Cyrus may as well be (he's wandering around in the distortion world as far as we know.
 
I personally think he didn't. Since his secret area is at Tojoh Falls, the splash is probably just him jumping into the water and heading for the entrance of the cave.
 
I think he didn't, I mean if anything you'd think that they'd want to keep him in store so they can bring the character back for the future. Plus, it's not very Pokémon to just kill people off, suicide or not. So, I'm pretty sure he didn't.
 
Nobody dies in a kid game. Nuff said.
 
Giovani did not commit suicide he probably used surf and rode of on his Nidoking since Nidoking can learn surf
 
Merged this thread that was punted here with this pre-existing thread.

Have another alternate explanation btw: he went

~!*swimming*!~

or it was as mentioned before the radio seeing the noise occurs whn the transmission is mentioned again. -_- I guess only Giovanni knows for sure whatever went down, but imo it's likely not suicide.
 
He would make a new organization having as admins all the leaders from previous teams (magma, aqua, galactic..) and finally train his pokemons instead of hoping for a victory with a team of pokemon in lv 40-50. kinda like a Red.

Not like its gonna happen but it would be legit.
 
You know what Idk cause I don't have celebi but didn't you need celebi for the event,? Probably he saw celebi. Time traveling geo teleported or some kind of escape and plans to go in to the past thru celebi's portal and warn him self about everything so this doesent happen and he leads a new path for time rocket, he meets his son and pairs up with him to try and bring down the player of the game down?
 
the splash was mewtwo coming out of the water to kill him
 
If he didn't, they heavily implied it. D:

My heart stopped for a second when I heard that splash.
 
Its not a splash
its the radio
Since the noise starts
and the Team rocket
Dumb radio speech starts up
xP
 
Nintendork15 said:
Its not a splash
its the radio
Since the noise starts
and the Team rocket
Dumb radio speech starts up
xP
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It really sounded like a splash and I fliped out.

My GF and I were watching the cutscene and we both just looked at each other.
 
LOL. No.


He's the mastermind behind Almia's Gigaremo and Miniremo's corruption

He's also hiring Team Aqua and Magma to increase land mass


and also Team Galactic to increase the celestial space and stuff

He is also the reason why the Go-Rock Quads were evil

He's also the reason why Shadow Pokemon became shadow



he's working in disguise.
 
Silver.Nova said:
It really sounded like a splash and I fliped out.

My GF and I were watching the cutscene and we both just looked at each other.
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Yeah, I kind of flipped when I watched it too.

SO ANYWAY! I've finally come to the conclusion, that should DIMINISH your thoughts of it being static. I've done my research. And I've come prepared.

So, I believe that Giovanni jumped off the falls. First of all, the sound. Yes, debating on static and splash... which one is it? If you've played it, or watched the video, at least... you would've known by now that the sound PLAYED at the EXACT time the radio started speaking. So, how do you think the radio would be able to "talk" when static's going about? Second... do you know what would happen if you lose to Giovanni?

"Giovanni: Not being able to measure your own strengths shows that you are still but a child." -Leaves room-

Now, let's go back to how the story should go. When he leaves the room, there's a splash, right? But when you lose to him purposely, he exits the room WITHOUT a splashing sound. Then Celebi just teleports you back to Ilex Forest, and you'll be able to do the event again... and, there's no splashing/static sound. NOW YOU SEE, if that WAS a static sound, why didn't it SOUND when Giovanni LOST? I mean, it technically happened in the same time, just with different events! The fact that there was NO sound when he exited when you lost, makes it clear that it was INDEED A SPLASH. Now, I can't say for sure that he did suicide. But I'm sure, something fell on the water. Whether it be Giovanni, or just an item. I'm sure; it's supposed to be important. Why'd gamefreak do that?

For those to disprove me (Pokemon is a child's game blah!):

Remember when you got the GB sounds from the guy in Celadon? He says something about nostalgic feelings... obviously, if it was just kids playing HG/SS, they wouldn't have the nostalgic feeling cause they didn't grow up with GSC. Now, the fact that he mentions nostalgia means that it is also aimed for the veteran Poke-players. Yes; while it is not entirely for the veterans, it's still a heads up. Now. E rating... why is it "Everyone" "ESRB Ratings not rated for online interactions," it says. Technically, Celebi/Giovanni event is in-game. But. You need Wi-Fi to get Celebi, which, technically as well, makes it an online interaction. Now. Why Ethan/Lyra's reaction was bland... well like I said earlier. Although it is a heads up for veteran Poke-players, it's still a child's game. Children can play that part, too. So if you were a child, you wouldn't dawdle much about that fact. But if you were the veteran, having experience and stuff... you would have to speculate about that sound.

There goes my debate. Disprove me; I'm open. But I'll come back armed... well, unless you hit me on a spot. And I crumble to pieces... but I'll stick to my belief, unless you can counter mine.
 
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