Global Warming

Went said:
"Believe", you don't believe in science. Science relates to facts, and while the facts can be interpreted in different ways, the increase in Earth's temperature and its relation to certain gases is undeniable.

Of course, companies and politicians who want to keep the high-spending way of life instead of looking for less-toxic, cheaper, renewable energy sources (aka Oil companies, car companies, and their friends -only some of the most powerful lobbies in the world-) want to consider it a lie and something "you believe in", as if it were a religion or something, to have an excuse to ignore it and keep making money instead of investing on plans to improve their methods.
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Went said:


I'd add this image, also from Wikipedia:

[PokeCommunity.com] Global Warming


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

In other words, there was a "little warm period", then there was a "little ice age" and now there is another warm period that, in a single century, has got over anything the "little warm period" had. In other words, yes, we are coming off an ice age, that's true, but that the increase in temperature is unnaturally large and quick is also obvious.
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donavannj said:
Whether or not it's caused by our species, it doesn't change the fact that we're irresponsibly using limited resources such as oil and coal and are poisoning ourselves with the pollutants they put into the air. We get enough of such pollutants from the dominant meat sources for our species (large farm animals like pigs and cows).

The whole greenhouse gas effect pertains to the decreasing rates of heat escaping, not preventing heat from escaping altogether, just so you're aware.
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Landorus said:
Uh, no one ever said that heat isn't escaping. If heat wasn't escaping, night wouldn't be colder than day. Obviously heat is escaping, it's just the rate that heat is escaping is less than that of heat building up. That's what has always been said - all that article is doing is exploiting a well-known fact, leaving out important details, and incorrectly explaining events.

Also, here is a website that lists all the evidence and causes of climate change. Wait..that's weird. It seems to be NASA's government website.

Edit: Here is their "Causes" page where they clearly say that heat is still escaping, just more slowly. And that source is from 2007.
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Just focusing some points.

Most of what I wanted to say has been said already in these posts. The only thing I'd add to them is that the Earth itself releases infrared radiation to space all the time. The high concentration of greenhouse gases doesn't mean that there is like a 5 kilometers thick bubble made of concrete around the planet that lets nothing get out. Heat still escapes to space. But it's escaping at a slower rate.

So no, it's not a hoax. It's pretty damn real. Get over it.
 
All you have done is show that we are coming out of our current Ice Age, as evidenced by natural global warning. None of those fancy charts and graphs show a causation. Warming alone isn't inconclusive evidence unless it can be shown that said warming is man-made.
 
There is evidence. That graph wasn't suppose to be evidence for anthropogenic global warming. I thought you were saying that there was no evidence of significant global warming, anthropogenic or not. That graph shows that there is significant global warming.

If you want more extensive evidence, I suggest you go no further than NASA's article here: https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

This article answers almost any denial response you can think of: https://www.grist.org/article/series/skeptics
 
CO2 is not a harmful gas. It is a natural gas. CO2 is essential for life to occur on this planet. It's even in the air we breathe. Humans are carbon-based. We need CO2. It's natural and harmless.
 
No one is denying that. If there were no greenhouse gases the planet would freeze us to death for a start. We need a balance. Water is good for us, but it can still kill us if mistreated. The same with CO2.
 
FreakyLocz14 said:
CO2 is not a harmful gas. It is a natural gas. CO2 is essential for life to occur on this planet. It's even in the air we breathe. Humans are carbon-based. We need CO2. It's natural and harmless.
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Seriously? I think you're just trolling now.

CO2, of course it's natural and harmless at natural levels. It's a natural greenhouse gas that helps regulate our temperature - without it we'd be a giant frozen rock.

But, too much of it is bad. Just like too much water is bad. Or too much sugar. Or too much fat. Or too much oxygen. Or too much methane. Or too much nitrogen. Seriously, the list is endless.

Just because something isn't bad all the time, that doesn't mean it's never bad.
 
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m2287 said:
HOAX, the summer in the UK is still crap, the winter is crap, nothing is warmer here :(
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1. The UK is not the entire world. I'm pretty sure that it's just a small island off the coast of Europe (and a little bit of an even smaller island off the coast of it.)
2. Global warming does not mean "OMG THE TEMPERATURE IS GOING TO BE 40 DEGREES CELCIUS EVERYWHERE!!!1!!1!!" It's "The temperature of the entire planet as a whole will rise a few degrees, some places may not experience a noticeable rise, some may experience a huge rise (like the ice caps will).

Ignorance. The only way to rid the planet of it is to stab it in the face with facts. ^-^
 
Landorus said:
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1. The UK is not the entire world. I'm pretty sure that it's just a small island off the coast of Europe (and a little bit of an even smaller island off the coast of it.)
2. Global warming does not mean "OMG THE TEMPERATURE IS GOING TO BE 40 DEGREES CELCIUS EVERYWHERE!!!1!!1!!" It's "The temperature of the entire planet as a whole will rise a few degrees, some places may not experience a noticeable rise, some may experience a huge rise (like the ice caps will).

Ignorance. The only way to rid the planet of it is to stab it in the face with facts. ^-^
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About the Polar Ice Caps, I once saw on the show Brainiac (yes, they at least used to broadcast it in the US), that it would only take the global temperature rising by 3°C to completely melt the Greenland ice sheet, resulting in sea levels rising by 7 meters, which is almost 23 feet. I don't know about all of you, but this page on the melting Greenland ice sheet is rather convincing to me.
 
Who cares? I'm not educated enough on the issue to say one way or the other and I don't think it really matters. Whether it manifests in this way or some other way, pollution is going to be harmful to the environment and we should encourage stronger controls on it.
 
It matters because global warming is a bigger threat than just general un-environmentally friendliness. In 40 years it's predicted that 15-37% of our known animal and plant species will be extinct. In 90 years the temperature is predicted to be at temperatures that will have been unmatched for 3 million years. The sea level is also expected to rise by almost two metres in 90 years. So places that aren't two metres above beaches, will be underwater.

The damage to ecosystems is also likely to be irreversible, at least without an extensive amount of time (thousands of years) to build it back up. Especially for coral reefs.

Global warming requires a lot more action than usual environmentally friendliness. That's why it matters. :P
 
Live_Wire466 said:


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Which means that the planet is warming up.
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Hey there dewd, that's exactly what FreakyLocz14 said. But after Went pointed out that it was going higher than the last one, I made a post saying I didn't see that and said he was right. So I don't know what you're trying to tell me.

:P
 
Anders said:
Hey there dewd, that's exactly what FreakyLocz14 said. But after Went pointed out that it was going higher than the last one, I made a post saying I didn't see that and said he was right. So I don't know what you're trying to tell me.

:P
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This is rude; he probably didn't see the second post. You're acting like he's got something against you, or that he is making some arbitrary remark. Beyond that Global Warming has been denounced as a "hoax" in order for big corporations, that have ties with congressman, to protect their assets so that they can ignore their contribution to global warming and pollution, to make more money.
 
I firmly believe that global warming is a myth. Forget the Little Ice Age. We're in an ice age right now.
 
I think its a Hoax. It keeps getting colder here. CO2 is a natural gas anyway.
 
deoxys121 said:


How can you say we're in an ice age? The global temperature is rising greatly and there is now way to deny it. Just look at the graph below:

[PokeCommunity.com] Global Warming
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NASA recently announced global cooling coming up. We're in an ice age, and it's going to get even colder. This is all natural. We see periods of warming and cooling. Nothing to be alarmed about.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/
 
FreakyLocz14 said:
NASA recently announced global cooling coming up. We're in an ice age, and it's going to get even colder. This is all natural. We see periods of warming and cooling. Nothing to be alarmed about.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/
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I find it funny how you link to a completely random source saying NASA said something, yet there is no mention of this on NASA's website (in fact the say the complete opposite) and no one else is reporting this.

Seems fishy, doesn't it?
 
Landorus said:
I find it funny how you link to a completely random source saying NASA said something, yet there is no mention of this on NASA's website (in fact the say the complete opposite) and no one else is reporting this.

Seems fishy, doesn't it?
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hmmm.... Seems kinda fishy to me.
 
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