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Gofre's second attempt at a retro team.

El Gofre

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    This time, it's 1st gen Ash!
    OU, non-platinum
    The Line-Up:
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    In Detail:
    "image removed"@Lefties
    Calm
    252SpDef/252HP/6SpAtt
    Sleep Powder
    Leech Seed
    Grass Knot
    Sludge Bomb
    Standard Seeder ftw. Usual stuff really, grass knot to put larger dents in stuff like Gyara.

    "image removed"@Choice Specs
    Timid
    252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP
    Falmethrower
    Dragon Pulse
    Focus Blast
    Air Slash
    I like SpecZard. Air Slash over either HP, STAB is always nice and water types are dealth with by a lot of other things on this team.

    "image removed"@Lefties
    Bold
    252HP/252Def/6SpAtt
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Yawn
    Rapid Spin
    Zard isn't a fan of stealth rock, this guy solves that problem. Standard Utilitoise, simple enough eh?

    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*@Light Ball
    Naive
    104Att/152SpAtt/252Spd
    Thunderbolt/Thunder Punch
    Brick Break
    Grass Knot
    Substitute
    Yayyy for the legend that is pikachu. Light ball makes him a potent mixed sweeper. Thunder Punch over Volt Tackle- Chu dies easily enough to rapid spins, I don't wanna be helping them along. Need help deciding on STAB

    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*@Lefties
    Careful
    244HP/28Def/236SpDef
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Body Slam
    Earthquake
    RestTalkLax, special wall and status absorber extrordinaire.

    "image removed"@Choice Band
    Jolly
    252Att/252Spd/6HP
    Return
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Pursuit
    The obligatory physical sweeper, simple enough.

    So yeah, that's about it. Let me know what you think =]
     
    Snorlax : -

    Life Orb Gengar weak. Your only hope of taking it out is to hope for a speed tie with Tauros who wont OHKO anyway.

    Crunch >> EQ on lax plzz, which also helps with Sub Mind Mismagius.


    Blastoise : -

    Yawn is a horrid move, especially with sleep support (from Venusuar) use Roar.

    Gyarados smashes you to bits so you might aswell use Hidden power Electric on it too.


    No answer to Tyranitar is blarg. I sure hope this said "Ash" used a bulky ground or Fighter to cover that =].


    I may come back later for a better rate. Too "novelty" for my liking, but meh.

    :t109: :t194: <---God these smiles make me lol every time
     
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    No answer to Tyranitar is blarg.

    MY LINE. DON'T USE IT.

    I know it's a gimmick team, but having a huge TTar weakness isn't helping. I suggest removing Blastoise for Donphan, who can spin and counter TTar.

    Scarf Venusaur please; it can make a wonderful lead with a quick sleep and revenge killer. Thus I advise Leaf Storm on it.

    Use Crunch on Snorlax. Heatran does ass to you either way, so might as well prepare yourself for Gengar, who spanks this team. Crunch > EQ.
     
    I'm not sure if this team could hold it's own in OU.

    -This team is arguably gyara weak. Worse case scenario Gyara DDs, yu switch in Vena. Gyara Ice Fangs, vena will probably barely survive (idk) since it's EV spread carries no defesive bulk at all. Vena would GK/Sleep Powder which you shouldn't be dependent on for dealing with gyara. Anyway, Vena get's KOd and gyara moves on to the rest of your team I guess you can argue that your blastoise will survive yawn, but it can't really switch in and pose an immediate threat (Hell,you might have already slept someone..)

    - Your team lacks SR which will put a dent in gyara.

    That's all I'm seeing at the moment considering you're now aware of gengar.

    D_A beat me to it T_T, but I'll leave my post since my case scenario is true.
     
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    Oh dear god...
    You will need to make some serious changes if you don't want to be metagame weak.
    ~No Normal/Fighting Immunity
    ~No Normal resist
    ~No Dragon Resist
    ~Nothing terribly fast. Coupled with no priority, you will fall to anything that sets up.
    Crunch is necessary on Snorlax, otherwise Gengar has free reign.

    That Venusaur cannot lead. It gets hit hard by most leads and the rest Taunt it.
    Look, if you really want to run a "Ash Team" then you may have to throw in some Eeveelutions (Jolteon/Vappy), as you simply can't build a solid team from such a select group of Pokemon.

    Actually, Machamp can help against TTar, which is a serious problem. It's also 1st Gen.

    Props for trying, though.
     
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