Hax in the Hail (OU Hail Stall RMT). Hot muffin pics inside !

[Dark Azelf]

Spoiler:

This team has a tendancy to get haxed, hence the title lol. Those of you who go on shoddy will have seen me testing it.

Hail stall isnt something you see often and for a reason, because the metagame really isnt kind to it. Ive been wanting to make one for quite a while and let me tell you its damn hard to cover weaknesses and have decent synergy. Its a fun team to play with has been doing ok and after a revamp or two its alot better than it was initially.

Team Overview.


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Team in Depth
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Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers ** Oversized Lawnmower.
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP/84 Atk/174 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Wood Hammer
- Ice Shard

Obligatory hail lead because he is the only pokemon (bar Snover) who has the ability to set it up. Protect scouts what they want to do thus easing up on prediction, racks up hail damage and lets me heal with leech seed. Wood Hammer poops all over anything non resistant to it and helps with junk like Suicune. Ice Shard >> Blizzard because mence is an idiot and i NEED insurance against it. Im slower than Tyranitar to get the weather on my side. Also a fun fact is that he does negate most sash leads said sash.

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Nidoqueen (F) @ Leftovers ** Queen Victoria
Ability: Poison Point
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/196 Def/58 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Toxic Spikes
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Roar

I love this thing alot, i put it here to beat up Heracross, non-ice punch Lucario and most other fighters. Nidoqueen sets up one of my first layers of residual damage Toxic Spikes. Roar is for PHazing and is nice for racking up damage with all my spikes around, whilst EQ is for STAB. Fire Blast is a great move on Nido despite her mediocre sp.att, it strips around 40% from standard Celebi and hits Forry wanting to come in and spin my stuff away in addition to other steels such as idiot Scizor. Also absorbing foe Toxic spikes is a huge plus.

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Anti's hot sister Your Mom
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/80 SAtk/176 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Wish
- Toxic
- Flamethrower
- Protect

Yes its the fat pink blob, i havent used her in a long while so i thought i would. I know what you are thinking "D_A you noob, no S-Toss". Well i admit im the first to say how much it sucks without S-Toss, however by looking at my team i dont need it. I mean Aboma walls Raikou and so does Nido, whilst Empoleon is lol'd at by Aboma too. I need a way to hit Gengar because one frikkin destoyed an earlier version of this team and so did Azelf (i had wish + encore clefable in this slot before), so flamethrower is needed. Toxic is because Zapdos is a b to me and the Wish support is obligatory too, so in the end i have to use this set. Im using protect>>softboiled to rack up hail damage and because i hate getting pursuited.

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Froslass (F) @ Leftovers / Bright Powder / <Dark Resist Berry> ** Bad Pc Member.
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 6 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Spikes
- Protect
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Blizzard

Probably the most debatable member of my team, i mean im crazy to use this with Scizor running rampant lol. Froslass has a good few thing that it can do, one of them is it blocks Rapid Spin and the other is being able to set up Spikes too so its pretty useful. Ice Beam is for STAB and Spikes is for racking up even more damage with hail. Ice Beam and Spikes and are probably the most easy moves to explain on this set. Protect and Hidden power Ground were put on here by myself because Protect helps tremendously with Pursuit and is often a deciding factor if i keep her alive or not. If they Pursuit on my Protect i can just set up another layer of Spikes so i at least get something out of it. Hidden Power Ground is pretty much because predictable Heatran switch in is predictable and so i can revenge junk like Infernape and Lucario better. You get a cookie if you know who the Froslass nickname is in reference to lol

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Forretress (M) @ Leftovers ** Only one ball.
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/196 Def
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Gyro Ball
- Counter / Earthquake

One strange as heck set on the surface (and it gets wierder from here on out lol). Forry sets up the ever broken Stealth Rock and stops flying idiots from having their way and also spins for me to remove their residual junk. Gyro Ball is for STAB and Counter is a great move on forry, not only does it actually let me HURT sweepers like Metagross who think i am mere MM attack raise fodder, but its hilarious to absorb CB Stone Edges etc. Oh and its awesome for those Scizors who think for some reason they can SD up then X-Scissor etc me lolol ;x Earthquake is here for magnezone and what not whilst providing good coverage with Gyro.

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Poliwrath (M) @ Leftovers ** Tadpole = / = Cacturne sadly.
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP/52 Atk/110 Def/96 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Brick Break
- Toxic
- Haze / Waterfall / Ice Punch

This thing has been my MVP so far, it is so underrated. Firstly i looked at my team and though "Oh snap im Gyarados AND Tar weak, how can i deal with both?" so basically this does that for me. Poliwrath of course is one of THE best Tyranitar counters in the game being reistant to everything on standard tar sets bar EQ, but how can he hit Gyarados ? Hidden Power Electric of course, because it 2hko's sweeper dos with the given evs (only 22% still use a LO so im even safer lol). ^.^ Not only that but it resists everything bar Earthquake and (lol Bounce) on Dos sets. Brick Break is of course for STAB and Toxic wears down things. Last slot is a toss up, Haze is because in theory Curselax hurts, whilst Waterfall is for STAB and Ice Punch for dragon switches. Im currently using Haze though. Sp.Att evs give me 200 sp.att which isnt that bad.

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I know its far from perfect so i do need ALOT of help to smooth some edges over.

On a side note, i promise i will post an offensive team later but stall is so fun to build ;; lol. Also im sorry if there are any typos/ grammatical errors its 4am when i posted this so yah. >_<

 

[crystalvelox]

You get a cookie if you know who the Froslass nickname is in reference to lol

Froslass? The guy that always did ice teams and gave bad advice?

And I don't get the muffin.

For froslass, how about blizzard over ice beam? Or do you run into enough tyranitars that mess up hail?

 

[Dark Azelf]

And I don't get the muffin.

No one gets it. ^.^

And yeah it was supposed to say Blizzard, k ill put that in. Thanks for spotting that.

Froslass? The guy that always did ice teams and gave bad advice?

Maybe ? =x lol

 

[DonRoyale]

d00d, rule 34 on that muffin, nao

Froslass, oh God. Didn't he come back to the forums with like, over 9000 different usernames of different Ice-Types? He added me on MSN and constantly said "Where's Vance? Where's D_A" lolz >____________>

I like this team a lot. No apparent fixes, but hey, I'm just recently coming off an extended hiatus so what do I know :\

 

[Pokedra]

To be honest D_a after all that testing you did against Maxguage, Lala and me you kind of covered every threat ^__^

When I versed you, Zapdos tore your team to shreds but adding Blissey solves it. Froslass takes care of Mence, Forretress can take care of DDers like Kingdra and Gyarados.

If I find anything I'll come back but I couldn't find a major threat =/
Good team.

 

[Jake♫]

God, I failed epically to this team >.< That Poliwrath is a beast :D Anyways, even with Poliwrath, T-Tar can cause you problems. Kills your hail? Check? Use Stone Edge/EQ to kill Nido, Blissey, Aboma, and Frosslass? Check. You have to rely on that Poliwrath way too much as it is. Sure, this can be pretty situational, but either way, once Poliwrath is gone, it can rip you to shreds.

Other than that, it is a fantastic team which I can't beat ^^

 

[Dark Azelf]

God, I failed epically to this team >.< That Poliwrath is a beast :D Anyways, even with Poliwrath, T-Tar can cause you problems. Kills your hail? Check? Use Stone Edge/EQ to kill Nido, Blissey, Aboma, and Frosslass? Check. You have to rely on that Poliwrath way too much as it is. Sure, this can be pretty situational, but either way, once Poliwrath is gone, it can rip you to shreds.

Other than that, it is a fantastic team which I can't beat ^^

Nido resists Stone Edge though and i also have Forry and he can at least take a few hits from tar when worst comes to worst and the fact that i have Protect on my Pursuit weak members has helped alot in regards to Tar.

Also that it negates my hail doesnt really matter either (only froslass benefits), my team then becomes TSS stall lol

 

[Jake♫]

Nido resists Stone Edge though and i also have Forry and he can at least take a few hits from tar when worst comes to worst and the fact that i have Protect on my Pursuit weak members has helped alot in regards to Tar.

Also that it negates my hail doesnt really matter either (only froslass benefits), my team then becomes TSS stall lol

Very true XD Either way though, taking out 3 team members with ease isn't very good, so just keep the prediction good and you're set (Still though, it is totally situational :P)

 

[engage']

God, I failed epically to this team >.< That Poliwrath is a beast :D Anyways, even with Poliwrath, T-Tar can cause you problems. Kills your hail? Check? Use Stone Edge/EQ to kill Nido, Blissey, Aboma, and Frosslass? Check. You have to rely on that Poliwrath way too much as it is. Sure, this can be pretty situational, but either way, once Poliwrath is gone, it can rip you to shreds.

Other than that, it is a fantastic team which I can't beat ^^

I completely agree here.

Your only major threat is Tyranitar, Sandstorm ruins your hail, as Jake said, Stone Edge or EQ will take out at least half of your team, and is hell trying to take down. Blizzard is a good choice for Fross, can take out T-Tar.

If your Blissey has a good enough defense, it can take three hits from a T-Tar. (I've seen it.)

Queen + Toxic Spikes = win. And basically any Rapid Spinner could probably only take one hit from her and then be pwnt in the face and Toxic Spikes back out again. Takes hits well too. XD

Your Poliwrath is epic.

 

[Dark Azelf]

How is Tyranitar a problem ? >_____< Poliwrath is arguably one of its best counters in the game, the team doesnt even care about getting its Hail negated because only Aboma and froslass even care about it and you know, i can always switch back in aboma to make it hail again. In addition i have Forry who can at least take one hit from it and Gyro Ball its face in.

And the fact that i have Protect on my Pursuit weak pokes says "lol @ tar" even more ;/

Also that "once x counter or check is gone y pokemon sweeps" can be said about any team, this team has 2 checks which is more than enough.

This team =/= Tyranitar weak.

Blizzard is a good choice for Fross, can take out T-Tar.

No, it really cant.

Ice isnt super effective vs rock =x


EDIT : Yeah i cba with this junk, loses to fire punch dusknoir lol

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