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[Mr. Epic]

I am new to this so go easy on me. So I really been wanting to make a team of my favs that is also pro. I have just set up this and would like to know how I can improve it. I am not really good with the right choice for a balanced team so help please and thanks in advance :3

Azelf

Levitate
Naive
252 Spd, 252 Sp. Atk, 4 HP
Focus Sash
-Stealth Rock
-Taunt
-Psychic
-Explosion
[Description]

Snorlax

Thick Fat
Careful
168 HP, 120 Def, 220 Sp. Def
Leftovers
-Crunch
-Body Slam
-Curse
-Rest
[Description]

Weavile

Pressure
Jolly
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
Choice Band
-Night Slash
-Pursuit
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
[Description]

Lucario

Inner Focus
Adamant
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
Life Orb
-Extreme speed
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Swords Dance
[Description]

Alakazam

Synchronize
Timid
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Sp. Def
Choice Specs
-Psychic
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Trick
[Description]

Infernape

Blaze
Naive
252 Sp. Atk, 220 Spd, 36 Atk
Life Orb
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Hidden Power Ice
-Grass Knot
[Description]

 

[Postman]

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Electivire-
Don't use Electivire as a lead, or at all...
But if you really want to use him use this set, but still not as a lead.

Electivire @ Life orb/ Expert Belt
252 Atk, 80 SpA, 176 Speed
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake

Lucario-
Lucario is good, just add EVs; 252 Atk, 252 Speed.
By the way, your Lucario is all physical; has no special attacks.
But you could put HP Ice over Stone Edge to make it mixed and give it a Lonely nature.
(put Ice Punch if you have Platinum)


too lazy to go on... :D
I'll rate the rest later.

 

[Matt-O]

Besides Kanye's rant about EV's, on Lax, I recommend the Rest Talk set.
Snorlax@Lefties
Thick Fat
Careful Nature
EVs: 240 HP, 236 Sp.Def, 32 Def
Moves:
Rest
Sleep Talk
Crunch
Body Slam
Effective Special Wall and Status absorber. Much more effective than what you have now. Body Slam for STAB, Crunch for Gar, Rest for Recovery, Sleep Talk so you can attack in your sleep.

 

[Mr. Epic]

Once I get my DS back I may check and add EVs :<
@Kayne West: Thunderbolt is special :S and I really want to keep him because he was hard to get, who should I use as a lead?
@Matt-O: Rest only works for one turn and I have tried that set before but I find Curselax to be better for my team.

 

[DonRoyale]

Allow me, Mr. West.

I am new to this so go easy on me. So I really been wanting to make a team of my favs that is also pro. I have just set up this and would like to know how I can improve it. I am not really good with the right choice for a balanced team so help please and thanks in advance :3

Electivire @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
Lonely
EV's: 252 Attack, 176 Speed, 80 Special Attack
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake
Super effective lead

Electivire is not a lead. It is used in tandem with Pokémon that attract Electric attacks, such as Gyarados or Skarmory, to get Motor Drive boosts. It is a Pokémon that switches in on counters to other team members to lul at them and begin to wreak havoc. The physical set looks like a cool idea, but oh what to do when Skarmory shows up, shrugs off Thunderpunch, and Whirlwinds away your hard-earned Motor Drive boost, never to have it seen again purely because your opponent won't be stupid enough to let it happen again? Not much, so Thunderbolt throws a wrench in Skarmory, and will kill Gyarados who would otherwise Intimidate you to death.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
EV's: 168 HP, 120 Defense, 220 Special Defense
-Crunch
-Body Slam
-Curse
-Rest
Staler

Your EV spreads are missing, so I don't know how this was approved :# Anyway, EQ + Body Slam = Gengar and to a lesser extent Spiritomb lul2you, so pack Crunch to get the scare on Gengar at least. Otherwise, it's a good set.

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
EV's: 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
-Night Slash
-Pursuit
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
Physical Sweeper

Ignore Smogon's suggestion to drop Speed for HP. That suggestion was made when Flamethrower Azelf was actually used, which it isn't now, so just go with max Speed so you get ahead of other people who would otherwise mindlessly and ignorantly follow Smogon's outdated sets.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Adamant
EV's: 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
-Extreme speed
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance
Mixed Sweeper

I honestly don't see the mix in this, as all of its attacks are physical. Anyway, keep Life Orb or KO range is shortened.

Alakazam @ Choice Specs
Synchronize
Timid
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Special Defense
-Psychic
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Trick
Special Sweeper

Good poke is good, albeit standard and predicatable. Tricking Specs onto something is a lot of fun, something I've yet to try, so nice going with this.

Infernape @ Choice Scarf
Naive
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 220 Speed, 36 Attack
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Thunderpunch / HP Electric
-Grass Knot
My Starter Pokemon

Since you lack an effective counter to Gyarados and Tyranitar (if Luke dies), ScarfApe provides a slight solution. I say slight because I don't know whether or not this is a WiFi team. If it is, you're forced into Thunderpunch and will likely have to invest more EV's into Attack in order to OHKO Gyarados. Otherwise, go with HP Electric and keep the EV spread listed.

This team is a bit of a mess, no offense. Everything in here has no synergy whatsoever and has paper physical defense. With the exception of Electivire, Brick Break from opposing CB Weavile ruins you. Plus, anything with Earthquake also spells your doom.

Electivire needs Gyarados or Skarmory to keep its place. Otherwise, replace it with Suiczelf:

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Naive
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP
-Stealth Rock
-Taunt
-Psychic
-Explosion

>> Electivire as your lead.

You also need something that floats or flies as anything with Earthquake kills you. Scarfgar comes to mind:

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Timid
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP
-HP Ice
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt

>> Alakazam.

If you use Scarfgar, keep Infernape as NP Mixape.

Hmm. That's all I can think of for now. The members of this site with more experience under their belts, such as Vance and D_A, will likely provide a better rate on this team than I can, as they can see threats better than I can and will likely provide better solutions.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Once I get my DS back I may check and add EVs :<
@Kayne West: Thunderbolt is special :S and I really want to keep him because he was hard to get, who should I use as a lead?

Why the hell should it matter that he was "hard to get?" And Physical Vire's still walled by Poke's like Hippowdon, Weezing, Cressy, Dusknoir, etc. He can only 3HKO Hippo with Ice Punch even with max atk and a Life Orb, which IMHO is pretty sad.

@Matt-O: Rest only works for one turn and I have tried that set before but I find Curselax to be better for my team.

How is it better for your team...? The standard Choice Banded fighters (Gallade, Hera, Machamp, Lucario, etc.) still OHKO him even after a curse, he can still be 2HKO'd by special threats like Azelf, and most importantly, Sleep Talk-less Snorlax is utter setup fodder while he's resting. And no, Rest puts you to sleep for two turns.

 

[Postman]

Physical Electivire sucks. Mix Physical based Electivire doesn't suck as bad, but still sucks.

Rest lasts for two turns.

Gyarados rapes your team so I suggest replacing Weavile, I don't see it doing anything for you team, with Vaporeon and making your Snorlax Choice Band.


EDIT: Wow, beaten.

Ignore Smogon's suggestion to drop Speed for HP. That suggestion was made when Flamethrower Azelf was actually used, which it isn't now, so just go with max Speed so you get ahead of other people who would otherwise

That's also if Weavile is at full health, which is unlikely.

It is a Pokémon that switches in on counters to other team members to lul at them and begin to wreak havoc.

Even if it gets a boost, it's still weak.
75 BP Attacks?


(I suggest scraping the whole team and starting over. I don't see it getting to far.)

 

[Anti]

Why do you want to replace your Life Orbs for Infernape and Lucario? In both cases, it is absolutely essential to the extreme where they should not be used without a Life Orb.

The lineup seems really outdated to me. Electivire can only do something with a Motor Drive boost (which almost requires Gyarados) and a mixed sweeping set. Weavile is much the same as Electivire, hindered by having attacks with low base power and being walled very easily. NP Mixape is really only useful against stall, which is on the borderline of being totally obsolete. I would use Hidden Power Ice over Nasty Plot. CurseLax is also outdated, as it still can't take hits or dish them out effectively enough, including against special attackers, who are powerful enough to overpower Snorlax if you aren't careful.

I would replace Electivire and Weavile, as neither are doing anything to help this team. RestTalk Snorlax is more effective than CurseLax for wallig, but if you want more of a "special tank" feel, then you could use CBlax (which hits a lot harder than Weavile does). With Infernape, as I already mentioned, HP Ice >>> NP will give it much-needed coverage.

If you keep Electivire though, I will say that Thunderbolt/Ice Punch/Cross Chop/Earthquake is the WORST set it can run. Skarmory doesn't even switch in on Electivire to "wall" it (since it can't lol), and Thunderpunch 2HKOs it anyways. Skarmory is a rare sight these days anyways =/ You have to split your EVs, which either make Electivire slower or less powerful. Thunderbolt is really foolish unless you plan on using HP Ice and Flamethrower instead of EQ and Ice Punch (aka Mixvire, the only set that can do anything at all imo).

EDIT: Agreeing with postman (Kanye West) that you should probably just scrap the team and start over. It has the whole "early DP" feel to it, which isn't exactly good =p

Also...

'Why the hell should it matter that he was "hard to get?"'

I'm just curious, but why should it matter to you if he wants to keep it? It's not like Lucario is the problem with this team or anything >_>

 

[Mr. Epic]

Thank you DonRoyale for the amazing help, I did say I am new and go easy on me lol.
As you said to replace Weavile Kayne I was thinking of keeping Electivire as lead and then replacing it for Rotom-F or another form of Rotom as a floating or flying pokemon as DonRoyale said to do.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Thank you DonRoyale for the amazing help, I did say I am new and go easy on me lol.
As you said to replace Weavile Kayne I was thinking of keeping Electivire as lead and then replacing it for Rotom-F or another form of Rotom as a floating or flying pokemon as DonRoyale said to do.

WHY are you keeping him as a lead? What do you hope to achieve with a Lead Vire?

 

[BeachBoy]

Actually, I'm kinda surprised this was even approved in the first place. Seeing as it breaks our S&M rule of required description, Kyen. "Lead" or "Special sweeper" doesn't cut it.

I'll give you some time though, add some general description to each Pocket Monster and your RMT will be set. d(' 'd)

→ You MUST include description and general summary
In the past, we let Rate My Teams without any description slide, no longer is that the case. After every party member, tell us why it's in the team, how it works & contributes... just general summary. It's your team, you should know why you picked it and how it usually works.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

'Why the hell should it matter that he was "hard to get?"'

I'm just curious, but why should it matter to you if he wants to keep it? It's not like Lucario is the problem with this team or anything >_>

I was referring to the Electivire, and how he wanted to keep it on his team because "it was hard to get..." I meant that he shouldn't let that get in the way of making an effective team ._.

 

[Mr. Epic]

WHY are you keeping him as a lead? What do you hope to achieve with a Lead Vire?

Can't you see the Azelf?

Actually, I'm kinda surprised this was even approved in the first place. Seeing as it breaks our S&M rule of required description, Kyen. "Lead" or "Special sweeper" doesn't cut it.
I'll give you some time though, add some general description to each Pocket Monster and your RMT will be set. d(' 'd)

Okay will do!

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

I was thinking of keeping Electivire as lead

Alright, then what's this? I probably should have said, "why do you want to keep him as a lead," so you'd really know what I was referring to.

 

[Postman]

Change Thunder Punch on Infernape for HP Ice.
Thunder Punch really only hits Gyarados and it only 2HKOs. Grass Knot also 2HKOs it.
HP Ice for Dragons and so you can still hit Flying types.

 

[Mr. Epic]

Change Thunder Punch on Infernape for HP Ice.
Thunder Punch really only hits Gyarados and it only 2HKOs. Grass Knot also 2HKOs it.
HP Ice for Dragons and so you can still hit Flying types.

Yeah that is much better, thanks!

 

[Alex31]

Scarfgar could replace Alakazam, your're still weak to EQ.
Might want to put NP on that Infernape, a Grass Knot is lethal, but HP Lighting over Thunderpunch any day, if your maxing out SP Atk then whats Thunderpunch for, Skarmory can lol at you.
Snorlax curser is good,specially the Crunch.
Cant help but feel Azelf is wasted as a lead there, but meh, like has been said, you havnt really got any great potential with this team, its rather standard, I can see it being predicted quickly.

 

[Lalapizzame]

Scarfgar could replace Alakazam, your're still weak to EQ.
Might want to put NP on that Infernape, a Grass Knot is lethal, but HP Lighting over Thunderpunch any day, if your maxing out SP Atk then whats Thunderpunch for, Skarmory can lol at you.
Snorlax curser is good,specially the Crunch.
Cant help but feel Azelf is wasted as a lead there, but meh, like has been said, you havnt really got any great potential with this team, its rather standard, I can see it being predicted quickly.

He has an Azelf with Levitate lol. o.0

Considering how that's a Scarf Infernape, NP would be garbage, unless you want enemies to just kill you.

 

[Alex31]

He has an Azelf with Levitate lol. o.0

Considering how that's a Scarf Infernape, NP would be garbage, unless you want enemies to just kill you.

Yah, but thats Suicidezelf, its gone within mere seconds >_>.


Scarfed Infernape, meh.Get out something which resists it, or any wall and its useless.Infernape hasnt got a brilliant movepool, and it doesnt look like it could serve any point there, so I wouldnt recomend using Scarfnape, follows on from the prediction thing.
Mixape any day, but its your team.
Sorry for the confusion, im eating whilst typing lol.

 

[Mr. Epic]

Sorry for the confusion, im eating whilst typing lol.

O.o lol ok...
I did say I would try to make a team that can work in competitive but with my fave pkmn, like I could never have Blissey in the team :<
Suicelf gets the damage in before he goes down though ;)
I had Mixape and was advised Scarf would be better and no told no but then yes and no :S