I just saw the newest opening of Pokemon DP and...

DonRoyale said:
Realistically, I just don't understand the importance of Togekiss. She has (probably...hopefully) one more Contest before the Grand Festival. Why is she catching Togekiss, then? Who does it think it is? Glalie?
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Yeah, especially seeing how Togekiss is often associated with people like Cynthia or Palmer (Granted, Palmer is probably the only game character to actually own one in the anime, seeing how Cynthia's most likely going to stick with her DP team, but still.), thus making Dawn, a rookie who hadn't even gotten through her first Grand Festival yet, completely unrealistic. As I said before, it's like having Ash catch a Dragonite in Season 1.

Putting two and two together, one can theorize that Dawn's sticking around for a bit so that she can use Togekiss a bit, as well as Cyndaquil and Mamoswine, who haven't had much Contest experience.
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Well, of COURSE she'll stick around for a bit, seeing how it's going to take a while before the Grand Festival anyways.
 
Wow! I really like this opening. Even I say that whenever a new opening premiere. XD It was very nice. Everything was so fast and smooth. I almost felt like I was watching an intro to one of the Pokemon movies with Kyogre Groudon and Lugia firing their attacks. I like how Ash Dawn and Brock were singing to the song. Lots of spoilers too, but I came prepared so I don't mind.
 
**** yeah, Noctowl. Hopefully this means great things for that bird in the future. As for Dawn receiving Togekiss, allegedly, that's great for her. I guess Togekiss isn't as special as some previously thought, though I will wait to see how she actually gets it before I try to provoke people any further.
 
Jorah Rocks! said:
**** yeah, Noctowl. Hopefully this means great things for that bird in the future. As for Dawn receiving Togekiss, allegedly, that's great for her. I guess Togekiss isn't as special as some previously thought, though I will wait to see how she actually gets it before I try to provoke people any further.
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The problem is that it's already been implied that Togekiss is mainly used by elite trainers (IE, trainers who are part of the Elite 4, or members of the Battle Frontier.), now maybe if Togekiss was actually placed in a random trainer's hands after getting the National Dex that is neither an Elite 4 member nor a trainer at the Battle Frontier/Battle Zone, it would be slightly more forgiving.

And, provoke people? excuse me?! people who say something like that are more likely than not to be trolls.
 
weedle_mchairybug said:
Err, if by that you meant Larvitar, Vulpix, and Haunter, then yes. that might be it, otherwise, that means she actually did catch it.

And can you PLEASE change your signature?!
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Errrrr no. Why would I change it?
 
weedle_mchairybug said:
Err, if by that you meant Larvitar, Vulpix, and Haunter, then yes. that might be it, otherwise, that means she actually did catch it.

And can you PLEASE change your signature?!
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No, he means pokemon like gible who followed him... so he caught it....
But i agree on the sig changin... its disturbin...

Also... maybe cynthia will give cynthia an egg.... this opening is the 3rd in the series.... so i guess theres gonna be at least 50 episodes till it ends... thats plenty of time to evolve a pokemon... just look at mamoswine... it spent 20 episodes as swinub and 2 episodes as piloswine... use your facts people!!!
 
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Mew~ said:
No, he means pokemon like gible who followed him... so he caught it....
But i agree on the sig changin... its disturbin...

Also... maybe cynthia will give cynthia an egg.... this opening is the 3rd in the series.... so i guess theres gonna be at least 50 episodes till it ends... thats plenty of time to evolve a pokemon... just look at mamoswine... it spent 20 episodes as swinub and 2 episodes as piloswine... use your facts people!!!
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You mean "Cynthia will give Dawn an egg." Right?

BTW, there's a big difference between Togekiss and Piloswine. Before its evolution, it appeared in the openings as a Swinub, and it was only AFTER the evolution that it appeared as a Piloswine or a Mamoswine. In this case, we see Togekiss, and none of its prior evolutions, which implies that she does actually catch it as a Togekiss and doesn't merely raise it to become a Togekiss.
 
OMG!!!!! I can't wait I was smiling the whole way through it!!!!! its awesome and the tune is amazing.
I see the old pokemon freinds are returning can't wait althoguh some are missing(probably because there is way to many pokemon in it already lol)
way to exited now o3o
 
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weedle_mchairybug said:
You mean "Cynthia will give Dawn an egg." Right?

BTW, there's a big difference between Togekiss and Piloswine. Before its evolution, it appeared in the openings as a Swinub, and it was only AFTER the evolution that it appeared as a Piloswine or a Mamoswine. In this case, we see Togekiss, and none of its prior evolutions, which implies that she does actually catch it as a Togekiss and doesn't merely raise it to become a Togekiss.
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Yeah sorry i do mean dawn LOL
Yes its true they did that with swinub in high touch but if they were doing the same thing in this opening then there would be a grotle and monferno in the opening... I guess its just the animators being lazy... in high touch they forgot to remove gliscore from the opening.... And even if she does catch it as a togekiss, whats the hecks wrong with that? Maybe she trades with misty (im not being serious... XD) or zoey... It doesnt change anything, shes a fine cordinator perfectly capable of using strong pokemon like mamoswine (took her a while... but stilll)! If you dont want her to have a togekiss because you dont like her... thats not your choice to make :\ I htink its great she not has 6 pokemon in her team at once, may kept leaving her pokemon at pentalburg city... they were the perfect pokemon for kanto!!! GO DAWN... FTW!!!!!!!!!!! Just because mistys had a togetic doesnt mean dawn cant have togekiss anyway... mistys gone... bye-bye... she left her togetic anyway! Please excuse my spelling mistakes ^^" And if any of you are concidering thats not her togekiss in the opening... USE YOUR EYES!!! It came outta a pokeball with buneary!!! While all dawns other pokemon came out together!
 
it is epic =P i like the song and they finally made a GOOD opening tht makes ppl wanna watch it.
 
Well, if Ash had Gliscor, he would have TWO pokemon the same as Paul which would be strange, so maybe that's why it got booted. (;_;) So really adorable bat or HUGE turtle? I guess they like the turtle.

I, for one, did not want Chimchar to evolve. But when he did I'm now happy we got to Infernape. :D

And I was surprised by a Togekiss! If she got it as a baby it's such a quick time to evolve (well the party has two collective sooth bells) , and if she caught it as a Togekiss...I'm wondering just how she did it, it's fully evolved after all. But I'm by no means upset.
And yes Misty had a Togepi. It evolved and left to another dimension/kingdom. It's gone. Just like how all the other pokemon that are given away are gone excluding Charizard because it's just too kick ass for that.
A Togeblah appearance does NOT equal a Misty appearance, or a "cheated" one, because she doesn't own the whole goddamn species. She doesn't own, well, any.

Oh yes, and maybe I just missed his appearances because they were boring, but am I the only one who doesn't find Nando a...rival-ish person? Maybe it's because he's not a young boy.
Oh, and Conway is in the ranks of "the" rivals? That's pretty cool!
 
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weedle_mchairybug said:
Now, if Dawn does end up capture Togekiss, then I would be very hateful of DP by that point, not just because of the fact that the writers cheated us out of one of the possible Misty appearances -
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Oh, you. :)

Don't ever change. :)
 
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
This is great. Absolutely a great find. That Ash/Paul battle hinted at near the end will be a must-see. If they dub this over into English in it's unedited glory, and these spoilers turn out to be true, the anime will gain a lot more respect from me. Plus, if the art improves to the level in that video, I will become a true follower.
 
weedle_mchairybug said:
The problem is that it's already been implied that Togekiss is mainly used by elite trainers (IE, trainers who are part of the Elite 4, or members of the Battle Frontier.),
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Well I guess that's changed now so . . . yeah. Too bad.

And, provoke people? excuse me?! people who say something like that are more likely than not to be trolls.
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Really now.
 
Mew~ said:
No, he means pokemon like gible who followed him... so he caught it....
But i agree on the sig changin... its disturbin...
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Haha, what's so disturbing about it? (might want to learn to spell before commenting on things like these.)
 
Mew~ said:
Yeah sorry i do mean dawn LOL
Yes its true they did that with swinub in high touch but if they were doing the same thing in this opening then there would be a grotle and monferno in the opening... I guess its just the animators being lazy... in high touch they forgot to remove gliscore from the opening.... And even if she does catch it as a togekiss, whats the hecks wrong with that? Maybe she trades with misty (im not being serious... XD) or zoey... It doesnt change anything, shes a fine cordinator perfectly capable of using strong pokemon like mamoswine (took her a while... but stilll)! If you dont want her to have a togekiss because you dont like her... thats not your choice to make :\ I htink its great she not has 6 pokemon in her team at once, may kept leaving her pokemon at pentalburg city... they were the perfect pokemon for kanto!!! GO DAWN... FTW!!!!!!!!!!! Just because mistys had a togetic doesnt mean dawn cant have togekiss anyway... mistys gone... bye-bye... she left her togetic anyway! Please excuse my spelling mistakes ^^" And if any of you are concidering thats not her togekiss in the opening... USE YOUR EYES!!! It came outta a pokeball with buneary!!! While all dawns other pokemon came out together!
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It's not just the whole issue of my personal feelings towards Dawn or a Misty appearance. My main reason, and my biggest reason, not to mention, for hating the decision is because of the fact that it's highly unrealistic. It really doesn't matter how good she is at Coordinating, she still has a very long way to go before she could ever come close to a BF Brain, nevermind an Elite 4 member or the Champ. I mean, Ash did a fairly good job at being a Pokemon trainer for a guy who was starting out in Season 1, yet did he end up, oh, I don't know, capturing a Dragonite or something? No, and Togekiss in that respect is similar to a Dragonite, so her capturing it is highly unrealistic. Misty being cheated out of an appearance, while I am definitely upset, is barely even the reason for my distaste at the decision.
 
Vernikova Rules! said:
Oh, you. :)

Don't ever change. :)
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That's why I like weedle. The best idol for being Misty fan. :)

Mew~ said:
And even if she does catch it as a togekiss, whats the hecks wrong with that?
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Cause Misty had one and it's enough. We really don't need to see another one evolving into Togekiss. Or even if she catches it as Togekiss it's the same thing. hey Simple they make it common pokemon.
 
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Lornami P. said:
Well, if Ash had Gliscor, he would have TWO pokemon the same as Paul which would be strange, so maybe that's why it got booted. (;_;) So really adorable bat or HUGE turtle? I guess they like the turtle.
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Not to mention that Ash would have 3 ground-types.

I'm really interested in the upcoming league now, with the opening showing 4 of Ash's rivals. I hope Ash gets to face Barry, if Paul destroys Barry before the two get to meet I honestly would be very upset. :(
 
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