Idea: Tier 6?

[Nick]

I rather pay a penny per gallon of tier...

And.. what in God's name does that mean/have anything to do with the creation of a new Tier?

 

[Hiroshi Uwishicarwei]

To pay a penny to get one...? XD

 

[.Seth]

From my point of view, I think having a tier six would be a good idea. But, the only problem with that would be that the current system works better. Plus, the perks too...
The current system (although I doubt anyone but me even notices) has some rational thought into how many tiers there are.
For instance, the number 5 tends to be a bit systematic, meaning it tends to be a good number when using things like tiers. Also, the number 5 can divide numbers more easily than 6. The number 5 can go into numbers evenly that end with 0 or 5. Six (6) can only go into numbers than can be divided evenly by 3 AND 2. So, it's easier to divide things up (such as perks, for instance) to each tier.

I never said having a sixth tier was a bad thing. It's just 5 is a more logical number than 6. What I am saying is that if you'd like to have another "tier" of donatorship, maybe something along the "X Donator". Which is like having a status that can't be put with a number. Thinking of "X" mathematically, it's a variable, meaning it stands for a number, but we don't know what that number is. So, that way, the current system (5-tier), doesn't have to have a sixth "number" level, but it could have another level of donatorship that could be above that of a 5-tier.

 

[Working Class Hero]

I would like to see a Tier 6. Some benefits could be, bigger signature limits, bigger profile limits, name changes every 2 months. I don't care how neat it is. o.o

 

[Melody]

I honestly think that if there IS a Tier 6 put in place, it'll be a special rank only availible/given to those who have made a major donation amount (Like say...$100USD)
That being said, since there are so few members who have donated that much...there's just no need to have such a tier yet. (I think there's maybe one non-staff member who has donated $100, and the staff isnt going to let supporter perks exceed their own perks.)

 

[Nick]

To pay a penny to get one...? XD

Um,... k?

I would like to see a Tier 6. Some benefits could be, bigger signature limits, bigger profile limits, name changes every 2 months. I don't care how neat it is. o.o

Bigger signature limits wouldn't work. That would make it seem like there's an exception to those who pay money to the community in the rules, and that wouldn't really be fair the the majority of the members with... closed minds, so to speak?

I don't know what you mean by 'profile limits'. If it's regarding the profile picture, that was already increased by about 40x40 (I think.. something along those lines). I don't think they'd add that perk to another tier if they only allowed 40x40 pixels to be an increase in a profile picture.

Name changes are really controversial. 2 months is, like,.. absolutely nothing. If you change your name, you have to accept it no matter how badly you want it changed and it's already been lowered to 3 months for supporters. Changing it again for just a specific group when staff don't even have their own special limit isn't really fair to those who can't pay that much.

 

[Rukario]

here is my current thoughts on adding a tier 6:

It would mainly be for those that (have) donate(d) $50 or more to PC and would basically be tier 5 with a bit more pm, profile, avatar, and blog perks and an all new exclusive button image thingy to stand out from the 1-5 tier supporters. More of a thank you for your generous support than anything else.

thoughts?

 

[Working Class Hero]

here is my current thoughts on adding a tier 6:

It would mainly be for those that (have) donate(d) $50 or more to PC and would basically be tier 5 with a bit more pm, profile, avatar, and blog perks and an all new exclusive button image thingy to stand out from the 1-5 tier supporters. More of a thank you for your generous support than anything else.

thoughts?

I like it. Maybe, instead of it being called tier 6, it could be called something else. Different color names. Things like that as well. I don't know. ;3

 

[Nick]

here is my current thoughts on adding a tier 6:

It would mainly be for those that (have) donate(d) $50 or more to PC and would basically be tier 5 with a bit more pm, profile, avatar, and blog perks and an all new exclusive button image thingy to stand out from the 1-5 tier supporters. More of a thank you for your generous support than anything else.

thoughts?

Eh.. I'm going to have to be difficult right now. Only for the fact that 5 Tier supporters already have the same amount of PM space and avatar size that moderators have and it just wouldn't really work out for the majority of the people who really want (and need) more PM space or a larger avatar for obvious reasons. So, as long as you increase the PM space and avatar space, I'll be okay with it and I'm sure other moderators would as well, for the moderators if you do go through with this. The only reason I'm saying this is because, like Andy pointed out a while ago in a previous thread, moderators earned their spot on staff and if supporters can get more privileges in the User CP than moderators, then it wouldn't really be fair.

 

[Melody]

here is my current thoughts on adding a tier 6:

It would mainly be for those that (have) donate(d) $50 or more to PC and would basically be tier 5 with a bit more pm, profile, avatar, and blog perks and an all new exclusive button image thingy to stand out from the 1-5 tier supporters. More of a thank you for your generous support than anything else.

thoughts?

Certainly not a bad idea.
What PM/Profile/Avatar/Blog perks are you thinking of steve? More Image space? HTML access to blog? Access to the read receipt system? (Seriously it could be recoded so it's less annoying)

Aurapostle:
As for the fairness factor, Honestly you cant expect to have it all. Staff IS a volunteer thing you know. It cant hurt to allow a few extra privileges to those who help PC stay operational.
That being said, I can see why mods want more PM space. You probably handle untold amounts of PMs per day. Though I honestly dont expect tier 6s to get more than the mods get anyways. (And even if they did, It cant hurt to give mods and the rest of the staff a PM inbox boost too)

 

[Nick]

Certainly not a bad idea.
What PM/Profile/Avatar/Blog perks are you thinking of steve? More Image space? HTML access to blog? Access to the read receipt system? (Seriously it could be recoded so it's less annoying)

Aurapostle:
As for the fairness factor, Honestly you cant expect to have it all. Staff IS a volunteer thing you know. It cant hurt to allow a few extra privileges to those who help PC stay operational.
That being said, I can see why mods want more PM space. You probably handle untold amounts of PMs per day. Though I honestly dont expect tier 6s to get more than the mods get anyways. (And even if they did, It cant hurt to give mods and the rest of the staff a PM inbox boost too)

Being a supporter myself and someone who has donated for others (up to an amount of $150) I know full well that this keeps PC operational but as does staff. And if you've seen posts here that Andy has posted regarding the difference between staff and supporters, you'll see why I am saying that. Staff IS a volenteer thing, but it's also a position that's earned; not bought. And you have to admit that that's vitally important and can be considered an insult (what you just said) to those staff members who have been staff longer than five days like myself. Regardless, personally, I don't really care if their is more PM space. I was just using that as an example since I know other moderators who have more active sections get, as you said, untold amounts of Personal Messages. Never did I say I "wanted it all". I was simply pointing out some facts that were similar between 5 Tier supporters and moderators in terms of the User CP.

 

[Rukario]

Certainly not a bad idea.
What PM/Profile/Avatar/Blog perks are you thinking of steve? More Image space? HTML access to blog? Access to the read receipt system? (Seriously it could be recoded so it's less annoying)

Aurapostle:
As for the fairness factor, Honestly you cant expect to have it all. Staff IS a volunteer thing you know. It cant hurt to allow a few extra privileges to those who help PC stay operational.
That being said, I can see why mods want more PM space. You probably handle untold amounts of PMs per day. Though I honestly dont expect tier 6s to get more than the mods get anyways. (And even if they did, It cant hurt to give mods and the rest of the staff a PM inbox boost too)

Very true.. space is NOT an issues on this current server (we have tons)

well some things I've been thinking of is allowing more blocks / pages in the blog (HTML will NEVER be an option except for staff accessed acp), more album space/limits etc.

not sure about the read receipt thing.. I've not even bothered with it since we turned it off way back when.. It COULD be revisited if it's a wanted feature.

I'm sure we all, including the staff, can come up some neat stuff to offer.. maybe there is a custom plugin or hack we could offer to you or whatever.. point is, it won't be all that big yet will still show that we do appreciate your above and beyond support efforts.

 

[Willock]

Eh.. I'm going to have to be difficult right now. Only for the fact that 5 Tier supporters already have the same amount of PM space and avatar size that moderators have and it just wouldn't really work out for the majority of the people who really want (and need) more PM space or a larger avatar for obvious reasons. So, as long as you increase the PM space and avatar space, I'll be okay with it and I'm sure other moderators would as well, for the moderators if you do go through with this. The only reason I'm saying this is because, like Andy pointed out a while ago in a previous thread, moderators earned their spot on staff and if supporters can get more privileges in the User CP than moderators, then it wouldn't really be fair.

I agree- i mean, believe it or not, i have a great deal of respect for the staff here at PC. They are just as- if not more- important to the survival of the forum. Anything tier 6 gets, staff should get as well. I should imagine that if they dont that a lot of staff will feel 'robbed'- as Aurapostle said- they EARNED thier position rather than us supporters who bought it.

 

[Gerri Shin]

Here are my thoughts on the suggestions right now.

• The 180px² avatars are more than enough, however a slight raise in the KB allowed, might be a good option. Though I think that possibly the allowance of a 200px/ 1Mb limit on the Profile Pic could be an option as well.
• I agree that HTML is a no, that would be almost irresponsible since a good majority of the Staff cannot use HTML (only those with ACP privileges can.).
• I'm fine with the Album space I have right now, though not adverse to more if given.
• Extra PM space? If you need to clean out your PM box every week or month with a 1000 limit then you should probably just start using email, IMO. Granted we have the space, but in all seriousness, 1000 PMs a month and you're not staff? 0_o
• One perk that I'm not sure is possible, but I'll let Steve or someone in Red or Green answer, would be the allowance of more options in the Edit Profile customization page. I'd like to be able to add specific borders and/or radius corners to some of the elements in my profile/Blog. I think that would be a worthwhile addition if it's possible.

Well that's my take on the suggestions right now. If I think up any more I'll post again.

 

[jasonresno]

I think, weighing in on this issue a bit later, having more tiers really isn't a bad idea. If it gives people more incentive to donate--if only just to have a "Tier 6,7,8"--then it'll be worth it.

Let's be completely honest guys. Getting a perk or two did play into your donation. Maybe just a small part in the back of your head said: "Oh yeah, and getting that new usertitle will be cool too..".

But I'm of the mind that any more perks should be purely aesthetic. Maybe a new button or something or even just editing your Tier 5 button with a "Tier 6" and maybe a different color on it or something. I don't know because that's the staffs job to figure out but in my own personal opinion I see no reason it can't be implemented.

 

[Willock]

Well apparently my idea wasnt so bad after all!
and i agree that there should be some aesthetic changes for Tier 6. Maybe a colored usertitle?

 

[Nick]

Well apparently my idea wasnt so bad after all!
and i agree that there should be some aesthetic changes for Tier 6. Maybe a colored usertitle?

I told you pages ago if you thought of logical perks that it could work out some way.

Colored usertitle? No. That's an HTML thing and is limited to staff only.
It's one of the few perks, as a particular upper staff member has said in the past, that staff still have limited to them.

 

[Gerri Shin]

I'd prefer to just have the option of removing the space for a usertitle altogether...

I'll be honest, the perks did play a small role in my donations, but not a deciding factor.
I wouldn't feel right taking away one of the few staff perks like coloured usertitles, So I also have to give that idea a negative in my book.

One Idea I had, was possibly reducing the amount of time for name changes back to 2.5 months for those tier 6 and up (if more are created after 6). I admit now that I've said it aloud, it doesn't sound that great, but who knows.

 

[Guillermo]

On the note of usertitles, we've already discussed getting coloured usertitles in a thread, it didn't work out. But... what I was thinking is maybe, like Gerri Shin stated, having a higher KB increase for avatars or even profile pictures and possibly an increase in the amount of characters we can put in our usertitles.

 

[Nick]

On the note of usertitles, we've already discussed getting coloured usertitles in a thread, it didn't work out. But... what I was thinking is maybe, like Gerri Shin stated, having a higher KB increase for avatars or even profile pictures and possibly an increase in the amount of characters we can put in our usertitles.

The amount of characters in the user titles are the same for everyone without ACP access.