I understand what you're saying, tmbjr. I've seen sort of an infestation of newbies/n00bs here who don't really contribute to anything and have no respect for the veterans, and I'm sure that must be frustrating for people who have been here a long time, especially if fellow veterans leave; then what's a person's reason for coming if they've lost the respect they once garnered as well as many of their friends? I just hope not everyone feels like they need to leave, or else PC loses a bit of its identity with every vet who leaves, but yes, it must make many of the vets feel bad to see how the majority of new people here are...