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Is my first ev trained team good?

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    Hello, this is my very first post so sorry if it's in the wrong place etc :3

    I learned about ev training a few days ago and I've tried my best to ev train my first team and was wondering/hoping for some advice or tips:3 my team is as followers -

    Mawile ( hp/atk ev trained )
    - Play rough
    - Sucker punch
    - Swords dance
    - Iron head

    Metagross ( atk/spe ev trained )
    - Earthquake
    - Metor mash
    - Agility
    - Zen headbutt

    Sylveon ( hp/def ev trained )
    - Toxic
    - Protect
    - Moonblast
    - Wish

    Umbreon ( hp/spD ev trained )
    - Protect
    - Confuse ray
    - Toxic
    - wish

    Mienshai ( atk/spe ev trained )
    - Hi jump kick
    - U-turn
    - Stone edge
    - Hidden power ice

    Charizard ( spA/spe ev trained )
    - Fire blast
    - Air slash
    - Hidden power grass
    - Roost

    Any tips or advice on the movesets etc would be great, thanks :3
     
    Natures and items would be appreciated here.

    Mawile should use its Mega form (it must be holding Mawilite to be effective). The nature and EV spread should be Adamant and 124 HP/252 Atk/132 Spe respectively to outspeed Aegislash and Scizor.

    Agiligross isn't as effective as it used to be. Metagross is now best played as a bulky attacker:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Meteor Mash
    -Earthquake
    -Trick/Bullet Punch/Pursuit
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Iron Ball/Leftovers
    Ability: Clear Body

    or
    -Meteor Mash
    -Earthquake
    -Bullet Punch
    -Zen Headbutt/Pursuit
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Clear Body

    While Sylveon is better off with Hyper Voice + Pixilate, (a Pokebank-exclusive combination; Eevee with Hyper Voice must be transferred from B2/W2) Moonblast + Cute Charm is an acceptable alternative. You can also consider Shadow Ball as a coverage option over Toxic. The preferred nature is Bold, by the way.

    I wouldn't use Umbreon and Sylveon together, tbh, as one Wish user on the team is generally enough. I feel that you need some speed on the team, and Greninja is the Pokemon that can do that:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Dark Pulse
    -Extrasensory/Dark Pulse
    -U-turn/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Hasty/Timid
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Protean

    or
    -Spikes
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -U-turn/Extrasensory
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    Mienshao just doesn't cut it in OU; a lot of Pokemon do what it does better, like Lucario:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed/Bullet Punch
    -Crunch/Shadow Claw/Ice Punch
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Charizard's Mega forms are what make it good in OU right now. It's seriously lackluster without Charizardite X or Charizardite Y. A Dragon Pokemon like Goodra is better in its place; it synergizes well with Mawile and Metagross:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Bomb/Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Modest/Quiet/Sassy
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Specs/Leftovers/Assault Vest
    Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

    or
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
    -Toxic/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Calm/Sassy
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper
     
    You put this thread in the right place.

    Natures, Abilities, and items are important too, so include those as well.

    They all seem to be correctly EV trained to me. Thing is, you have Umbreon and Sylveon doing the exact same thing (you have both of them doing a Wish+Protect stall), and there's no point in that. Umbreon can't do much else, so its best to change Sylveon's set:

    -Sylveon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pixilate is preferred, but if you can't get that, its ok
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 4 Defense
    Moves: Calm Mind, Moon Blast/Hyper Voice (HV only with Pixilate), Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fire/Psyshock

    Also, swap Umbreon's Confuse Ray with Foul Play (or at least some sort of attack), otherwise it is absolute Taunt bait and set-up bait. Confusion is a bit of an unreliable status effect anyway.

    Mawile and Charizard shine in their mega forms, not their regular forms. So they need their Mega Stones. I'm assuming your Charizard will be a Mega Charizard Y. If that's the case, replace Hidden Power with Solar Beam. Since Mega Zard Y has Drought, the sun will be up when its in play (so no charge turn for Solar Beam), and Solar Beam is the superior option since it has double the power of Hidden Power. If you keep Roost on it, you'll need to swap Air Slash with either Dragon Pulse or Focus Blast. Otherwise a lotta stuff will wall it. If its a Mega Charizard X, then a totally different set is needed.
     
    You put this thread in the right place.

    Natures, Abilities, and items are important too, so include those as well.

    They all seem to be correctly EV trained to me. Thing is, you have Umbreon and Sylveon doing the exact same thing (you have both of them doing a Wish+Protect stall), and there's no point in that. Umbreon can't do much else, so its best to change Sylveon's set:

    -Sylveon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pixilate is preferred, but if you can't get that, its ok
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 4 Defense
    Moves: Calm Mind, Moon Blast/Hyper Voice (HV only with Pixilate), Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fire/Psyshock

    Also, swap Umbreon's Confuse Ray with Foul Play (or at least some sort of attack), otherwise it is absolute Taunt bait and set-up bait. Confusion is a bit of an unreliable status effect anyway.

    Mawile and Charizard shine in their mega forms, not their regular forms. So they need their Mega Stones. I'm assuming your Charizard will be a Mega Charizard Y. If that's the case, replace Hidden Power with Solar Beam. Since Mega Zard Y has Drought, the sun will be up when its in play (so no charge turn for Solar Beam), and Solar Beam is the superior option since it has double the power of Hidden Power. If you keep Roost on it, you'll need to swap Air Slash with either Dragon Pulse or Focus Blast. Otherwise a lotta stuff will wall it. If its a Mega Charizard X, then a totally different set is needed.
    I was assuming that Mawile was using Mawilite when I posted, but since a player can only use one Mega Evolution per battle, that was why I suggested Goodra in Charizard's place.
     
    You should consider replacing Umbreon with a Pokémon that has more HP, such as either Chansey, Blissey, or Vaporeon. They could definitely make better Wish users.

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 SDef / 8 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Seismic Toss
    - Wish
    - Thunder Wave / Toxic
    - Heal Bell

    Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 248 SDef / 8 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Wish
    - Thunder Wave / Toxic
    - Seismic Toss
    - Heal Bell

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 176 SAtk / 80 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Wish
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect
     
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