Is Using All Three Starters From a Specific Region "Cheating"?

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    So I wanted to have a Blaziken, Sceptile and Swampert on my new team, but my friend says it would be cheating since in retro spective, I'm only allowed to have one.

    But if I got my Torchic from HeartGold and got Mudkip and Treecko from breeding from LeafGreen, that's not cheating.

    So I wanted to ask if there's any rule prohibiting me from doing this.

    Please and thanks :).
     
    If you ask me, unless you used GameShark, ActionReplay, or the like, you've obtained those Pokemon through legitimate means, thus it really isn't cheating at all.
     
    Trading has existed as a game mechanic since the days of R/G. How can taking advantage of it possibly be perceived as cheating? o_0;
     
    He thinks so because in his words:

    "Starters are meant to be one per person, so technically, you should only be allowed to use one."

    It seems like trading them over means nothing to him and it still counts as cheating. XD
     
    He thinks so because in his words:

    "Starters are meant to be one per person, so technically, you should only be allowed to use one."

    It seems like trading them over means nothing to him and it still counts as cheating. XD

    Hmm...well I did the same thing in later playthroughs of Pokemon Sapphire and Emerald Versions (received Mudkip and caught a second Pokemon to satisfy the trade requirement, traded over to another person's Ruby, repeated the process a second time with Treecko, started a file with my preferred starter Torchic, caught 2 other wild Pokemon to trade for Mudkip and Treecko back from Ruby).

    It's not cheating in the unfairness sense (i.e., hacking for 31 IV-ed, 999-in-all-stats Pokemon)... The only times I'll acknowledge using Action Replay or GameShark as not cheating are either for backup purposes, multiple TMs and HMs ("retconned" in BW since we are now allowed infinite-use TMs, so you could say Game Freak made oversights in this implementation in previous Gens ;)), "event" Berries, event Pokemon, and shinies (to an extent - I mean, some shinies look awesome compared to the normal colors. You cannot use these for bragging rights or when considering yourself a "Shiny Pokemon Hunter", though.) All other uses I consider cheating, and as such are prohibited.

    Anyway, more on-topic, performing such a "trading of Starters" process kind of defeats the whole purpose of picking a Starter Pokemon. If you were meant to get all three at the beginning of the game, Game Freak would just either let you receive all of them at the beginning of your game or allow you to collect them along the way (like they were distributed among other Trainers you encounter in your adventure in Pokemon Yellow Version) to eliminate the whole trading hassle in the first place.

    Proceeding with only one Starter makes the game more of a challenge, IMO, and encourages the player to catch and train other Pokemon opposed from the Starters (the challenge is more evident in the Gyms, where whether you have an advantage or disadvantage against a certain Gym Leader can greatly depend on what Starter you chose, as it will usually be your highest leveled Pokemon at any given time aside from any Legendary Pokemon you managed to catch [i.e., Fire Starters tend to fare horribly at the first Rock-type Gyms]). Plus, your rival (and the first Gym in BW) is meant to possess an advantage over your starter Pokemon; trading for the other 2 Starters ruins and defeats said purpose.

    In reference to the "player is forced to catch and train other Pokemon" idea that I touched upon earlier, when I started with all 3 Hoenn starters in Sapphire and Emerald, they were pretty much the only Pokemon I used the whole playthrough before I first conquered the Elite 4, save for Kyogre/Rayquaza who I conveniently managed to encounter in the storyline.

    Trading for the other 2 Starters after you've beaten the Elite 4 and Champion for the first time is definitely OK, I would think. You've beaten the freaking Pokemon League! Surely you should be allowed something for that feat, right? (plus, you're supposed to continue your quest of "catching 'em all," which is impossible without trading for the other 2 Starter Pokemon. :cer_nod:)

    [S-HIGHLIGHT]So trading for the other starters isn't really traditional cheating per say (as actual Pokemon trades are legitimate by default), but IMHO it's technically cheating according to the game design, as the designers intend for you to actually make a choice at the start of your Pokemon journey, not just allowing you to get 2 other freebie starter Pokemon at first. :) [/S-HIGHLIGHT]

    I originally planned to start the third version of BW with all three starters, but I think for this Pokemon rebirth, I'll just start with my preferred starter Pokemon of Isshu, the Fire-type Pokemon Pokabu. Makes the game a bit more of a challenge (especially since the rival and the first Isshu Gym are dependent on the player's starter choice this time) :D
     
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    It's not cheating, you can compose your team of any Pokemon you like. Ash, for example, used all 3 starters in Kanto.
     
    It's not cheating, you can compose your team of any Pokemon you like. Ash, for example, used all 3 starters in Kanto.

    InB4 argument of anime =/= games.

    But you bring up a valid point, Pumpkin Fields. Ash wasn't (and still isn't, on occasion) restricted by starter choice (he should be made to follow TEH RULEZ!!!). At some point he used all of the region's starters (Kanto, Johto), two (Sinnoh) or just 1 (Hoenn). Then again, his situation was/is a VERY special case considering the events of Pokemon 4Ever: Voice of the Forest and whether he was destined to receive Pikachu in Kanto regardless.

    Plus, all of the starters appeared in eccentric situations (i.e., Bulbasaur being a forest guardian, Charmander being abandoned, Squirtle being part of a "Squirtle Squad") and wanted to go with Ash to accompany him on his journey (which definitely didn't happen in the original Red and Blue (and Green) Versions...

    Finally, Pikachu is available in the wild in multitudes, so it sort of doesn't count as a starter... (I still consider it a bona fide starter Pokemon though, and consider Kanto as the only region with four starters!)
     
    Using all 3 starters from a specific region isn't really cheating for me; it's just a way of making your journey easier, IMO.
     
    I did that in Sapphire once. It's not like it's a big deal. You can use whoever you want to use. It's your game, and it's only cheating if you hack for them.
     
    Not really. I used to do that in most of my Pokémon games, by trading, mind that, but never using any sort of cheating mechanisms, such as AS, and the like.
     
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