Is Windows XP Obselete?

your right ill just shut up i think that i will never get 7 i downloaded the upgrade advisor HOLY SH*** 40GBS FOR THE ENTIRE INSTALATION GO TO HELL WINDOWS ill forget this all happened im happy with my xp if your happy with your 7 good for you ill just just stick with my low resourses xp also my comp has never crashed on me 9 years and nothing.also the holy s*** moment was bcause i have a 320gb hd and i alredy used up 230gb so its kind of hard to fit 7 in all of that.also my poor experience with ie8 is not in security its legginess and pretty much everything in fact i have gotten 2 bad viruses in 9 years.
 
How would you know if its never crashed on you? 9 years ago you would have been 5, and the vast majority of 5-10 year olds aren't let anywhere near the computer.

And I bet you didn't know that XP is using 9 GB on your system, if it's properly updated, by itself. And it may also be worth noting that I have a 320 GB hard drive in my laptop with Vista installed, and I've been hovering around 95 GB of free space since January, and I got it about a year ago. The key is to know whether or not you're going to be installing any more applications/games or downloading any other huge files.

And, also, upgrading is a terrible way to go unless you absolutely cannot afford to lose certain licenses that you have on the older system, such as Office or some other expensive application.

And I didn't say it was security that was your particular issue with IE 8. I was also talking about lag. That has everything to do with the fact that it wasn't designed for XP, it just runs on it.
 
locoroco said:
o pls ie8 and ie9 and the biggest pieces of sh*** that could ever exist. second i never get viruses. third i dont care about 64 bit. your telling me windows 7 is more stable than xp hahahahahaha you make me laugh. fourth you probably took more than 5 hours to name all of those things and i never said win xp was better than seven i said that xp is not out of the race yet thats all ill consider it ut of the race once i see that microsoft and all of the os hacking fans including me stop making things for xp dont worry all of us os hacking fans will make win xp better than 7 and lastly why the heck did we even start talking about older computers. also i hate war games i just like call of duty bcause is the first 1 i had.
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Internet Explorer 9 is not out yet. You're making judgment on a product you could not possibly have used. As for Internet Explorer 8, it's perfectly safe to use if you're using a proper anti-virus, such as the free Microsoft Security Essentials.
 
I'm using windows XP right now. There's nothing wrong with it; my laptop is a vista and there's nothing wrong with it either. If you know how to use a PC correctly there really isn't a big deal.
 
im one of the exeptions. anyways im a big downloader i download pretty much everything that i think i might find usefull(someday). i dont have any licenses all of my program are shared in other words pirated so i dont have any probs with that but is just way to much memory. also for the 64bit 2 gb of ram as a minimum dam ill stick with xp for now i have been thinking for some time to upgrade but is just not possible and way to many things limit. me i love older games (2004-5-6) games and i really dont wanna lose them so i guess xp is the right choice and im proud to say it. and just like peopleperson said if you know how to use a comp it really doesnt make any difference so ill stick with xp.
 
locoroco said:
im one of the exeptions. anyways im a big downloader i download pretty much everything that i think i might find usefull(someday). i dont have any licenses all of my program are shared in other words pirated so i dont have any probs with that but is just way to much memory. also for the 64bit 2 gb of ram as a minimum dam ill stick with xp for now i have been thinking for some time to upgrade but is just not possible and way to many things limit. me i love older games (2004-5-6) games and i really dont wanna lose them so i guess xp is the right choice and im proud to say it. and just like peopleperson said if you know how to use a comp it really doesnt make any difference so ill stick with xp.
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2 GB minimum requirement for Windows 7 64-bit? This is news to me. The version I'm running at work is 64-bit, and it's on a system with 1 GB of RAM. :\
 
well thats wat it said in the program i dont know
 
locoroco said:
your right ill just shut up i think that i will never get 7 i downloaded the upgrade advisor HOLY SH*** 40GBS FOR THE ENTIRE INSTALATION GO TO HELL WINDOWS
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locoroco said:
anyways im a big downloader i download pretty much everything that i think i might find usefull(someday). i dont have any licenses all of my program are shared in other words pirated
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I think you just made a fool of yourself. And for the record, my 7 x64 Pro installation is just under 15GB. 32-bit would be substantially smaller. They suggest more room so there is space for all of your software, pagefile (which you're really going to need if you insist on 1 GB ram) Hiberfile, etc.

donavannj said:
2 GB minimum requirement for Windows 7 64-bit? This is news to me. The version I'm running at work is 64-bit, and it's on a system with 1 GB of RAM. :\
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x64 has a higher RAM limit because they assume that you will be using 64-bit programs. These put through twice as much information at once, so it's a safe assumption that you will need extra RAM. And many of the system programs are 64bit, hence the higher idle RAM usages on x64.

I still don't get why you went with such poor parts if you built the machine yourself. I'm not even sure where you managed to find 1GB DDR3 ram. You went with a newish platform (AM3) and paired it with a Sempron and a gig of ram. If you were so concerned about money, an AM2+ board with 2GB DDR2 would have been a better idea.

This argument clearly isn't getting anywhere and I'm worried it's going to start a flame debate if it isn't one already.

Summary: Windows XP is still a viable product for the time being, but it certainly has no future. Windows 7 is superior on newer machines and is preferable.
 
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twocows said:
Internet Explorer 9 is not out yet. You're making judgment on a product you could not possibly have used. As for Internet Explorer 8, it's perfectly safe to use if you're using a proper anti-virus, such as the free Microsoft Security Essentials.
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The official statement on IE9 is that XP is not being supported and that's all I need to know.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361485,00.asp

Perhaps you jumped to conclusions assuming I did not research this which I have >.o
 
alright but i mean 7 with xp mode is 40gb using x64.also html5 with h.264 streaming in youtube is going to suck that is probably another reason why i hate ie9 im a beta tester for html5 on youtube is not really that great and you have no choice but to stick with it.my mother board it supports am3 processors it has ddr2 ram sorry if i confused you this asrock motherboard is wierd.anyways ill stick wit xp and its outdated security (i dont get viruses anyways LOL)and its probably outdated everything bcause for my usage is more than enough win7 x64 not an option and win7 32bit not and option either. ill stick with it it still has potential. when every single 1 of my favorite webpages dont support xp ill move to 7 for now i dont think so.
 
locoroco said:
alright but i mean 7 with xp mode is 40gb using x64
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...You don't need XP mode. I have never used it and ran into very little compatibility trouble. So no, XP mode is not a part of Windows 7, or a requirement by any means. It's just a piece of software.

locoroco said:
.also html5 with h.264 streaming in youtube is going to suck
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You're the first person I've ever heard talk about HTML5 poorly. There's nothing sucky about it. Just another new technology that isn't being natively supported in XP. (You'll have open source solutions for this one, though. /eyeroll)

locoroco said:
when every single 1 of my favorite webpages dont support xp ill move to 7 for now i dont think so.
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Something tells me come 2014 it'll be meer months before XP is so insecure due to lack of support that it won't be a matter of support, it'll be a matter of you have the nerve to use XP in anything remotely dangerous and you get a nice BSOD.
 
PkMnTrainer Yellow said:
The official statement on IE9 is that XP is not being supported and that's all I need to know.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361485,00.asp

Perhaps you jumped to conclusions assuming I did not research this which I have >.o
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I wasn't quoting your post, I was quoting locoroco's post. Given that he's on XP and it's not out yet, there's no possible way he could know that "it's the biggest piece of ****."

locoroco said:
alright but i mean 7 with xp mode is 40gb using x64.also html5 with h.264 streaming in youtube is going to suck that is probably another reason why i hate ie9 im a beta tester for html5 on youtube is not really that great and you have no choice but to stick with it.my mother board it supports am3 processors it has ddr2 ram sorry if i confused you this asrock motherboard is wierd.anyways ill stick wit xp and its outdated security (i dont get viruses anyways LOL)and its probably outdated everything bcause for my usage is more than enough win7 x64 not an option and win7 32bit not and option either. ill stick with it it still has potential. when every single 1 of my favorite webpages dont support xp ill move to 7 for now i dont think so.
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Anyone that judges a product by its beta version does not deserve to be a beta tester. The whole point of beta testing is to point out what you don't like and provide feedback on it so they can change it before the final release. If there is something you don't like about it, tell them. HTML 5 on YouTube is a necessary step; people should not have to install extra proprietary software to do things that should be standardized. YouTube already uses H.264 for most rendering anyway, they're just working out the bugs in their player interface.
 
I do not think that Window XP is Obsolete as I still use it and there are certain advantages of it. The following are the reasons,

1. You can still run older apps easily.
2. Easily installed.
3. You don't need any fancy Firewall.
4. You can have true DOS not cmd DOS.
5. You don't need any fancy virus checkers as 80% of virus's now are made for Win2k/XP/Vista.
6. You don't need constant daily updates for features they have cocked up.
 
jazzrocking said:
I do not think that Window XP is Obsolete as I still use it and there are certain advantages of it. The following are the reasons,

1. You can still run older apps easily.
2. Easily installed.
3. You don't need any fancy Firewall.
4. You can have true DOS not cmd DOS.
5. You don't need any fancy virus checkers as 80% of virus's now are made for Win2k/XP/Vista.
6. You don't need constant daily updates for features they have cocked up.
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1. Older apps also work well in Windows 7 and Windows Vista, too.
2. Windows 7 and Windows Vista have even easier installs.
3. Yes, you do. Windows XP is still relevant to those who wish to expose vulnerabilities in systems, since it's still widely used.
4. XP and 2000 both had an emulated DOS environment. Last one to run on top of true DOS was Windows 98.
5. That statement is just contradictory to itself, and proves that you do need an Antivirus program.
6. Thing is, they're not daily updates, they're weekly updates, and most of those updates are for XP, not Vista or 7, since they're covering security vulnerabilities in the operating system.
 
peopleperson said:
I'm using windows XP right now. There's nothing wrong with it; my laptop is a vista and there's nothing wrong with it either. If you know how to use a PC correctly there really isn't a big deal.
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Yeah... but... if that was how simple reality was Windows 3.1 / 95 would still be popular.

They're not. o.o

twocows said:
I wasn't quoting your post, I was quoting locoroco's post. Given that he's on XP and it's not out yet, there's no possible way he could know that "it's the biggest piece of ****."
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Oh I'm sorry. My bad. I must've have payed a bit too little attention to the person making the argument. How embarrassing.

jazzrocking said:
1. You can still run older apps easily.
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My windows 7 machine can run software and games that pre-date XP. This argument is propaganda. =/

jazzrocking said:
2. Easily installed.
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No. It's not. In fact XP installs are quite painful in comparison to newer Operating Systems, majorly due to the fact they also require a reformat.

jazzrocking said:
3. You don't need any fancy Firewall.
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There is no reason XP needs a firewall any less than Vista or 7. In fact, due to security vulnerabilities it needs it more if anything.

jazzrocking said:
4. You can have true DOS not cmd DOS.
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XP doesn't have true DOS

jazzrocking said:
5. You don't need any fancy virus checkers as 80% of virus's now are made for Win2k/XP/Vista.
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jazzrocking said:
6. You don't need constant daily updates for features they have cocked up.
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Spoiler:

Updates are weekly, and furthermore many people LIKE new things, instead of being on a life support of vulnerability fixes that don't really do anything noticeable like XP is.
 
XP has the chance in my eyes, to be perfectly usable when vista itself is obsolete. (In a way i'm saying that there is a chance that XP will not be obsolete when Vista is.) Turns out it's still pretty popular.
 
Para-Dox said:
XP has the chance in my eyes, to be perfectly usable when vista itself is obsolete. (In a way i'm saying that there is a chance that XP will not be obsolete when Vista is.) Turns out it's still pretty popular.
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I think that that's very unrealistic and very improbable.
 
Para-Dox said:
:p You're very right. Mabye XP will only go on untill next year, where microsoft could release a 10th anniversary editon for XP.
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That, would be sudden and out of the blue considering no plans for anything like that have been announced.
 
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