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Kid's newest RMT...bigger and better...

Artemis

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    All right You battling experts out there, here is another RMT by me, The Kid, I worked hard on this one for a few days, but I'm looking forward to your predicaments on to what you have to say or improve on this team for myself. So go right on ahead and do what you do best…lol…

    Thank you by the way!

    Lead/Physical Wall:
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    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Impish Nature; 252 HP/ 6 Atk/ 252 Def
    Ability: Torrent
    - Roar
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock

    My new lead as well as physical wall on the team. Probably the best choice giving me a free slot for my Jirachi on the team. Waterfall and Earthquake for coverage along with STAB while Roar takes advantage of my set up Stealth Rock. Basically a pretty neat combination thanks to the help of D_A.

    Physical Sweeper:
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    Scizor @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature; 32 HP/ 252 Atk/ 224 Spe
    Ability: Technician
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Punch
    - X-Scissor
    - Brick Break

    Scizor with Life Orb, Swords Dance, and Technician…when I saw this I was like…HOLY SMOKES…lol…plus being a steel type it gives my team a lot of resistances as well! I chose Double Hit over Night Slash or X-scissor because with a few SD and having the technician ability I can cover more neutral attacks with a lot of power in it as well…but I'm open for a changes on that move.

    Special Sweeper:
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    Gengar @ Life Orb
    Timid Nature; 6 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
    Ability: Levitate
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast

    A great special sweeper for this team giving me three immunities with such a powerful special attack and speed base as well. A complete revenge killer for a ton of Pokemon weak against Gengar's great move set and coverage too. Plus, it can add in as a switch in team member to negate attacks that are super effective to my other team members while it doesn't affect Gengar at all.

    Special Wall:
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    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature; 4 HP/ 252 Def/ 252 SpD
    Ability: Natural Cure
    - Wish
    - Softboiled
    - Toxic
    - Seismic Toss

    Blissey is a great special wall for this team who can absorb in a lot of special attacks while wearing down the opponent with toxic. For steel types that I suspect might show up on the next turn, I would plan to use flamethrower on it, while the 80 EVs in the special attack gives it a little power. Blissey can also cover for pokemon like Gengar and Scizor, since most people would go in with a special attack for Scizor and some might use an attack such as shadow ball on Gengar, which has no effect on Blissey. Thanks to some extra help, I also decided to go in with wish over softboiled for to give in more support to the other team members along with itself.

    Physical Sweeper2/Coverage Killer:
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    Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
    Jolly Nature; 6 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe
    Ability: Serene Grace
    - Iron Head
    - Fire Punch
    - Thunder Punch
    - Ice Punch

    After getting rid of my lead aerodactyl and replacing it with my Swampert, I basically gained a free slot. Jirachi was suggested to be used for a few weaknesses given on my team, which I found quite suitable to use as well. Not too bad, gives coverage, and outspeeds tons of pokemon on the OU battle field as well with the Choice Scarf.

    Mixed Sweeper:
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    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Rash Nature; 80 Atk/ 252 SpA/ 176 Spe
    Ability: Intimidate
    - Fire Blast
    - Draco Meteor
    - Roost
    - Brick Break

    A great addition to the team, having coverage over those with phys. Def and Sp. Def as well. Brick break for pokemon such as Tyranitar, Blissey, and others, while Fire Blast for coverage and Draco Meteor for a powerful STAB. I've used it before and I haven't had much of a serious problem.


    ***Basically the team supports one another. I haven't seen too much trouble against other pokemon, as I built this team with support and strength. I'm open for many improvements as I see fit, along with great strategy tips as well when using this team in battle.
     
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    Blisseys evs add up to over 510, Go : - 252 def / 176 sp.def / 80 sp.att. In additon use Seismic Toss in that last slot because it covers most special threats and because it is its best attack.



    Also i dont get what Aero does on this team since its not an all out sweeper team. You could just as easilly shove SR on swampert (In the last moveslot, or over waterfall if you still want Roar too) and lead with that. Then you have a free pokemon slot.

    In which case i would look for a Gyarados and Scizor counter/check because those shred you pretty badly, as does DD Mence..So use this >> Aero to keep them all in check.

    Jirachi@Choice Scarf
    252 ATT / 252 speed / 6 hp
    Jolly Nature
    - Iron head
    - Fire Punch
    - Thunderpunch
    - Ice Punch

    Outspeeds and pretty much OHKO's all the aformentioned threats. Serene Grace is pretty sweet on this too lol

    No one uses Jolly max speed DD Mence so you are pretty safe (the only mence verison capable of doing anything to you after a dd), you speed tie anyways with it after a dd so meh.
     
    Blisseys evs add up to over 510, Go : - 252 def / 176 sp.def / 80 sp.att. In additon use Seismic Toss in that last slot because it covers most special threats and because it is its best attack.



    Also i dont get what Aero does on this team since its not an all out sweeper team. You could just as easilly shove SR on swampert (In the last moveslot, or over waterfall if you still want Roar too) and lead with that. Then you have a free pokemon slot.

    In which case i would look for a Gyarados and Scizor counter/check because those shred you pretty badly, as does DD Mence..So use this >> Aero to keep them all in check.

    Jirachi@Choice Scarf
    252 ATT / 252 speed / 6 hp
    Jolly Nature
    - Iron head
    - Fire Punch
    - Thunderpunch
    - Ice Punch

    Outspeeds and pretty much OHKO's all the aformentioned threats. Serene Grace is pretty sweet on this too lol

    No one uses Jolly max speed DD Mence so you are pretty safe (the only mence verison capable of doing anything to you after a dd), you speed tie anyways with it after a dd so meh.

    Hmm, okay so I did it again with the over EV spread thing...lol...thanks for pointing that out...and I'm not to keen on using legendaries but this time I'll make an exception because in order to be my best out there I gotta play hard ball, so I'll take you advice on replacing aerodactyl and moving swampert as my lead!...

    EDIT: Oh yes, and what is the best choice for Scizor between Double Hit/ Night Slash/ X-Scissor ???
     
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    x-scissor is probably the best choice for scizor due to stab

    and i reccomend a lead that can handle taunters and trick pokes
    as azelf my taunter would negate roar and stealth rock and is immune to earthquake. find something that can handle an azelf
     
    x-scissor is probably the best choice for scizor due to stab

    and i reccomend a lead that can handle taunters and trick pokes
    as azelf my taunter would negate roar and stealth rock and is immune to earthquake. find something that can handle an azelf

    Waterfall negates sash on the taunt then scizor can switch in on SR and BP it.

    Pretty much beaten with smart play =o
     
    yeah but by then azelf would have exploded and kod swampert
    i suggest getting a faster lead
    Uh, switch in Gengar to take the hit? He's not overly bothered by Stealth Rock, besides, Swampert can come in later and SR - One of the advantages of a bulky Rocker. (No Puns, please.)

    As for Scizor, X-Scissor is a more solid choice. It's still resisted by Steels. If I didn't get Bullet Punch as an effective way at by breaking Subs, I'd say it's viable, but you get more damage out of X-Scissor (120 BP vs 105 BP) and it has perfect accuracy, as opposed to Double-Hit's 90% (which is amplified, as there is two hits.) It also lets you take Cresselia, among other things.

    Oh, and with Gengar, I personally would prefer to run Life Orb > Choice Specs as although you have decent coverage, all of the moves are easily switched in on - HP Ice is the only one that nothing is immune to. Gengar shouldn't be taking hits, anyway.
     
    Hmm... This team has great typing coverage, no double weaknesses! :) Anyways, Gengar could use Life Orb instead, as Archer said, though both are fine. I suggest Ice Beam over Flamethrower since Seismic Toss deals with Steels that resist Toxic. Though, I like TWave more over Toxic, but since the team is more offensive base, so never mind that! I suggest X-Scissor on Scizor other than those other moves, except Roost would fit nicely too... Blissey COULD use Wish support for Scizor instead of Roost, so you could Wish, then switch in Scizor on a Fighting move aiming for Blissey. Then, Wish would heal the damage done, and heal the other damage recoil from LO if you sweeped earlier. Other than those... You will do fine in the metagame I think! :) BTW, you are getting good at team building! ;)
     
    Waterfall negates sash on the taunt then scizor can switch in on SR and BP it.

    Pretty much beaten with smart play =o

    Got it, I have to go with Smart Play...something I'm trying to practice on more!

    yeah but by then azelf would have exploded and kod swampert
    i suggest getting a faster lead

    but as said before by D_A, if I use smart choices then I can easily beat leads such as Azelf.

    Uh, switch in Gengar to take the hit? He's not overly bothered by Stealth Rock, besides, Swampert can come in later and SR - One of the advantages of a bulky Rocker. (No Puns, please.)

    As for Scizor, X-Scissor is a more solid choice. It's still resisted by Steels. If I didn't get Bullet Punch as an effective way at by breaking Subs, I'd say it's viable, but you get more damage out of X-Scissor (120 BP vs 105 BP) and it has perfect accuracy, as opposed to Double-Hit's 90% (which is amplified, as there is two hits.) It also lets you take Cresselia, among other things.

    Oh, and with Gengar, I personally would prefer to run Life Orb > Choice Specs as although you have decent coverage, all of the moves are easily switched in on - HP Ice is the only one that nothing is immune to. Gengar shouldn't be taking hits, anyway.

    Hmm, I see your point with the Life Orb for Gengar, plus it allows my team to move more freely. And I'll go with X-scissor, it covers up a lot of things that I didn't even think about.

    Hmm... This team has great typing coverage, no double weaknesses! :) Anyways, Gengar could use Life Orb instead, as Archer said, though both are fine. I suggest Ice Beam over Flamethrower since Seismic Toss deals with Steels that resist Toxic. Though, I like TWave more over Toxic, but since the team is more offensive base, so never mind that! I suggest X-Scissor on Scizor other than those other moves, except Roost would fit nicely too... Blissey COULD use Wish support for Scizor instead of Roost, so you could Wish, then switch in Scizor on a Fighting move aiming for Blissey. Then, Wish would heal the damage done, and heal the other damage recoil from LO if you sweeped earlier. Other than those... You will do fine in the metagame I think! :) BTW, you are getting good at team building! ;)

    Okay...and thank you for the compliment...I'll have to ask around a bit about BLissey more first...and I've decided to go with X-scissor for Scizor.

    EDIT: What would be a good moveset for my Blissey on this team...any good ideas? oh, I have done some changes on the team that were suggested as well!
     
    Everything is fine, though, you could go 64 HP/ 252 Atk/ 192 Spe on Scizor making you last longer with LO, although, it might not outspeed threats. *Waits for D_A to prove me wrong*

    uh I think D_A might dissaprove of that...lol...because if Scizor cannot outspeed some pokemon he'll be quite DOOMED...
     
    Swampert lead is asking to be set up on rly, Roaring on the first turn is pointless, then opposing Pokemon uses eg stat boosting move, and then it delivers a horrible blow to Swampert.
    I use Swampert late game for a great wall when all the grass Pokemon.

    What I would do, is change the order a little, take your Scarfed Jirachi for a lead, and use that imo.
     
    Nah, the only threat is Tar, and you can probably OHKO or 2HKO him with Bullet Punch. You can always use Brick Break...

    OH YEAH! I forgot I had brick break...

    EDIT: should I really use swampert for late game and put in Jirachi as my lead???
     
    I thin kI will keep the idea with Swampert as a lead for now...because I have a pretty good strategy worked up with that...

    still having a little trouble though getting stable on Blissey's moveset...
     
    I thin kI will keep the idea with Swampert as a lead for now...because I have a pretty good strategy worked up with that...

    still having a little trouble though getting stable on Blissey's moveset...
    You're basically trying to choose between standard Blissey and WishBliss. WishBliss can't actually do much to Heatran, which the majority of your team can't deal with very well (Swampert's not bad, just not sure-fire), although you can PP stall it. I say this because your team could do well with Wish Support. Swampert, Scizor and Jirachi can all reap the benefits

    Wish / Softboiled / Flamethrower / Toxic is great, should you choose to run it with your current EV Spread....
     
    You're basically trying to choose between standard Blissey and WishBliss. WishBliss can't actually do much to Heatran, which the majority of your team can't deal with very well (Swampert's not bad, just not sure-fire), although you can PP stall it. I say this because your team could do well with Wish Support. Swampert, Scizor and Jirachi can all reap the benefits

    Wish / Softboiled / Flamethrower / Toxic is great, should you choose to run it with your current EV Spread....

    Thank you, You just gave me a really good idea for Blissey...

    I still stand for suggestions to you all...so far so good, I think...All my changes have been made above in my original post.
     
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