Kind of Ash Team, only with Skarm

STAB gives that move an extra 50% power. Return does 151 damage in one turn, while Solarbeam does 120 damage in two turns. It simply murder to put that on Snorlax, considering his low Special Attack and Lack of STAB and Sunny Day.
Btw, Return only does the damage if the pokemon likes you at max. That means you didn't kill it too many times and stuff like that. In NB, Return does the max of 102 damage, ingame it may vary, but it's way better that Solarbeam anyway.
I'm not good at EVs, but the main thing I'm wondering is how you got this 252/252/7 spread.
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Must have made a mistake while typing. I was copying the EVs and in the middle of it, I saw a mistake and changed the EVs, and the first stayed the same. Dunno. Anyway, the point still stands, the EVs need fixing. I put the 252/252/4 EV build in lack of something better. And you people aren't helping...
 
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STAB gives that move an extra 50% power. Return does 151 damage in one turn, while Solarbeam does 120 damage in two turns. It simply murder to put that on Snorlax, considering his low Special Attack and Lack of STAB and Sunny Day.
Btw, Return only does the damage if the pokemon likes you at max. That means you didn't kill it too many times and stuff like that. In NB, Return does the max of 102 damage, ingame it may vary, but it's way better that Solarbeam anyway.


Must have made a mistake while typing. I was copying the EVs and in the middle of it, I saw a mistake and changed the EVs, and the first stayed the same. Dunno. Anyway, the point still stands, the EVs need fixing. I put the 252/252/4 EV build in lack of something better. And you people aren't helping...
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I'm trying to help, its just you want to stay with your old team. Since you won't accept any advice, I won't give anymore.
 
YoMama said:
I'm trying to help, its just you want to stay with your old team. Since you won't accept any advice, I won't give anymore.
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I just said I won't change Bellyzard. In rest, you didn't give any reasonable advice except comment on that. And on my EVs, which you didn't fix, because you're no better at EVs than me, from what I saw (I'm not saying it in a bad way :P). If you can't say something really helpfull, don't post in the respective thread anymore (I'm not talking only about this one, you tend to do that in general).
 
I was just proving Bellyzard is proved to be unsuccessful in comparison to SDZard.

Just curious, what do you consider "helpful"? Just wondering. If you can't accept any help, then you don't have to post here and you can convince yourself that your team's invincible. I was suggesting the standard SDZard. Bellyzard with Substitute? You'll cut you HP by 3/4 with both of those moves. Relaxed Nature? I thought it was common sense that Charizard needs Speed. What's the point of a Relaxed Nature? Probably one Rock Slide and its toast anyway. It will break the Substitute and you won't have enough HP left to make another one.

I'm helping by convincing you that Bellyzard just won't work well. At least with SDZard it only really takes one or two Sword Dance's and you can score with Aeriel Ace or Earthquake. Don't you see how I'm trying to help? If you elimate the only real weakness on your team, which is Bellyzard with a Relaxed Nature, then your team will only need some minor adjustments and you're on your way.

If you don't find this helpful, do complain to me that it isn't helpful because I'm trying to help and you just won't admit the fact that you messed up in a few places.
 
FOR CHRIST SAKE, I DON'T CARE ABOUT BELLYZARD!!!!
He may be weak, there may be more powerfull sets, but I wanted to try something no one else uses now. Charizard won't survive two SD because one Rock Slide will kill him anyway, he is 4x weak to rock and his defenses suck. And you only offered advice for one pokemon, you stated the same thing in about 5 or 6 posts, or even more. Charizard is only the lead in my team, he is not my entire team. Too bad AB and Sync are gone, and I dunno where the rest are, to show you how a team is rated and fixed. You only talk about people not accepting your advices, but you won't change your way either no matter what anyone else says. And this is getting way off topic, much like any thread you post in, so I'll finish, and won't answer too any more of your comments.
 
Fine. I tried, but whatever floats your boat. Keep the Bellyzard. Fine.
 
i think the last poke is lapras...
 
Where's heracross?


Oki, so I made my own Ash team, and I forgot the last poke and used Skarm instead. I need all the EV's and the natures fixed. I only made it out of fun, so I didn't even had second thoughts about them.

Charizard(M) @ Salac Berry
Blaze
Jolly[+Sp,-SpAtt]
EVs: 12 hp,252 Att, 240 Sp
Aerial Ace
Belly Drum
Earthquake
Substitute

Dont start with him please.He wont work unless you clear out their zapdos' and bulky waters

Venusaur(M) @ Leftovers
Overgrow
[+SpDef,-Att]
EVs : 210 HP / 88 Def / 60 Spd / 80 SpA / 72 SpD
Hidden Power[Fire]
Leech Seed
Sleep powder
razor leaf


Thats my favourite set.Pulled the EVs from smogon and they work pretty well
If u do want your set, slap sleep powder over HP grass and keep it careful with max Hp EVs.

Blastoise(M) @ Leftovers
Torrent
Bold (+Def,-Att)
EVs: 212 HP / 184 Def / 96 SAtk / 16 SDef
Ice Beam
mirror coat
Rest
Surf

Ok i guess...consider rapid spin over mirror coat since u have no defense against spikes.

Pikachu(M) @ Light Ball
Static
Timid (-Att, +Spd)
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtt / 252 Spd
Thunderbolt
HP Grass
Surf
Substitute

Alrighty then

Snorlax(M) @ Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
EVs: 160 HP / 72 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
Curse
Rest
Return
Shadow Ball

Make him your starter.

Skarmory(M) @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish (-SpAtt, +Def)
EVs: 196hp, 48 Att, 252Def, 16 Sp
Drill Peck
Rest
Roar
Spikes

K
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Don't care for it.
 
Finally, someone who actually know what they're saying. I do think the last poke was Lapras. He got Heracross only much later, when he switched the starters for the GSC ones (Totodile & CO).
Anyway, does Bellyzard need so much speed? I mean, in order to put the sub up and BD, he needs to be a tad slower than the opponent, unless he wants to be creamed...The Salac will activate then and he'll get the speed boost.
I didn't like Sleep Powder on Venusaur because of the stupid sleep clause, if you only get one poke, why even bother, the other one will, just switch and cream you, but meh, I'll go with it, and see what happens :P.
I'm trying to go without a spinner...Worked so far...Mirror coat killed a Zapdos, returning his own Thunderbolt :P. And with Blastoise's low Sp.Att, he can't really do anything else.

Thanks a million for the EVs and natures.
 
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