Kingdra is a glorified hoover (because it sucks) ololol

[Pokedra]

Kingdra is not an inferior Gyarados Vance!(OU RMT)
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Written By Pokedra

☆ BACKGROUND INFO
I've been laddering on Shoddy a little bit and I felt I need more teams to choose from as I only have two teams for OU that I use. My Mesprit lead team and my Aerodactyl lead team. Rip into this team and tell me what you think.

Also I tried a new format as my old format is too basic.

☆ AT A GLANCE
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☆ THE TEAM
Lead

Metagross@ Leftovers
Ability : Clear Body
EV : 252 HP / 236 Atk / 12 Def / 8 Spe
Nature : Adamant

• Stealth Rock - Simple move which everyone should get.
• Meteor Mash - Lackbuster attacking type but the move hurts alot if not resisted.
• Bullet Punch - Useful for coming in and picking off weakened enemies if need.
• Explosion - When Metagross is about to die or when I'm not sure I can take the other Pokemon out.

Physical Sweeper

Salamence@ Life Orb
Ability : Intimidate
EV : 232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature : Naive

• Dragon Dance - Boosts Spe and Atk. One of my favourite moves.
• Outrage - With one DD, anything that doesn't resist this is taking one huge hit from it.
• Earthquake - Powerful move that will hurt Electvire,Tyranitar and Metagross.
• Fire Blast - When Skarms and Bronzong want to come and a Life Orbed Fire Blast is enough to smack them down.

Special Sweeper

Azelf@ Choice Specs
Ability : Levitate
EV : 36 Atk / 252 SpA / 220 Spe
Nature : Naive

• Psychic - Main STAB attack may not be too effective against anything but it hurts if not resisted.
• Flamethrower - Takes care of Scizor, Metagross and Skarms.
• Grass Knot - Damages Tyranitar pretty bad and it also hits hard on Swampert.
• Explosion - When Blissey and Snorlax want to come in and play and get blown up.

Status Absrober

Machamp@ Leftovers
Ability : Guts
EV : 108 HP/ 144 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Nature : Adamant

• Brick Break - Guts boosts this move. Simple and nice STAB which doesn't lower defenses like Close Combat and Dynamic Punch has horrible accuracy.
• Stone Edge - Gyarados, Salamence both get pounded by this as well as Zapdos.
• Rest - When "Bodybuilder" here is tired and needs a snooze.
• Sleep Talk - Fires off random attacks powered by Guts.

Special Sweeper

Starmie@ Life Orb
Ability : Natural Cure
EV : 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature : Modest

• Hydro Pump - Risker then Surf but the power pays off alot in the current metagame.
• Thunderbolt - Hits Gyarados for nice damage as well as Vaporeon.
• Ice Beam - Gives Starmie the Boltbeam combo, Ice Beam takes care of most Dragons.
• Recover - Heal off the damage from Life Orb and any other damage taken.

Sponge

Blissey@ Leftovers
Ability : Natural Cure
EV : 80 HP/ 252 Def / 176 SpD
Nature : Calm

• Aromatherapy - Gets rid of all status effects on my team.
• Thunder Wave - Spreads status around and lets her go first.
• Seismic Toss - The only way for this Blissey to hurt something.
• Softboiled - Heal off the damage.

☆ CONCLUSION
The team is very fast and hits hards but is horrible defensively. They cover each other fairly and my Blissey provides support and Metagross sets up the rocks. Rate please! And Vance, Kingdra is not an inferior Gyarados. They are different Pokemon :P

 

[Dark Azelf]

Problem #1 "LOL Pursuit LOL" Thats half your team which dies to it aka Azelf, Star, Bliss.

Metagross

I like Brick Break in the last slot for dual screen garbage and it also hits Heatran and Magnezone etc, but thats up to you.

I also like giving this sp.def evs but again its up to you.

Salamence

Fire Fang >>>Fire Blast.

55.33% - 65.09% <--- Your Life Orb Fire Blast vs standard 252 hp / 92 sp.def Sassy Bronzong.

76.63% - 90.24% <--- Your Dragon Dance LO Fire Fang vs standard 252 HP / 80 DEF Neutral Bronzong.

Fire Fang wins here.

101.98% - 120.06% <---Your Dragon Dance LO Fire Fang vs 252 hp / 252 def + Nature forry.

You OHKO Forry with both, but Fire Fang wins here because it gains more net damage vs everything else in the game due to the DD LO boost. ^_^

Skarm gets ohko'd by fire blast, however takes like ~70% from DD LO Fire Fang which means its useless, but again " Fire Fang wins here because it gains more net damage vs everything else in the game due to the DD LO boost".

Also just a note, Skarm and forry arnt even in the top 20.

Conclusion : - Fire Blast = major Suck on DD Mence.

As for the nature sure outrunning random scarfers is ok i guess but the power loss from adamant is noticable and you fail to OHKO alot of counters.

I prefer Adamant @ 80 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED, but meh.

Azelf

As much as i like specs azelf, its just honestly too risky and gives Heatran, Tar, Scizor a free switch in pretty much depending on what you are locked into. Id use u-turn tbh somewhere or at least Hidden Power Fighting >> Grass Knot.

Infernape

Use 64 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 192 SPEED @Naive

Naive and 192 speed outpaces scarf + speed nature base 100's (+ Speed DD Mence). 64 Att evs OHKO's Calm bliss with SR up iirc.

Starmie

Timid >> Modest.

Blissey

Umm, Modest nature...wtf lern 2 nature @____@ lol XP !

Calm please.





"If Gyarados gets in a DD you are 6-0'd" (no counter or check)

Scizor weak (Infernape takes like 80% from an SD BP lol)

Lucario weak (Mence loses due to LO recoil and SR with an SD Extremespeed)

Tar weak (Nothing can switch in)


First weak could be solved by putting a bulky offensive cune >> Starmie (Because LO Gyarados OHKO's starfail after a dd)

Suicune@Leftovers
172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power Electric
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump

2nd 2 weaks could be solved by putting this >> Meta

Jirachi@Choice Scarf
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Punch
- Iron Head
- Ice Punch

Revenge kills stuff.

Last weak could be solved by putting this >> Infernape

Machamp@Leftovers
108 HP / 144 ATT / 252 DEF / 4 Speed
Adamant Nature
- DynamicPunch
- Stone Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Then you wouldnt need aroma set up fodder move on bliss and you can put flamethrower there or ice beam or you could even benefit from wish support here imo.


Jirachi
Machamp
Cune
Mence
Azelf
Bliss


Something like this seems much more solid.

Azelf tends to lure in stuff like blissey and then you can just blow up on them and sweep with cune.

In the same vein cune lures in bulky waters and you can destroy them with it and then sweep with Mence easier.

I win \o/

 

[randomspot555]

Starmie as a sweeper (252/252/6 spread) isn't going to have time to use Recover, and if it does, won't Recover enough to survive a hit. But if you REALLY don't want another offensive attack there, then you can choose a screen, Thunder Wave, or Confuse Ray.

 

[Barney.]

For Infernape (If you chose to keep it)

If you go with D_As EV spread and nature (Which you should)...Then Thunderpunch >>> Grass knot..

Tyranitar (as you stated) goes down to close combat..So do other rock or steel types...And you said that grass knot deals with bulky waters...Thunderpunch does this much better IMO..

You could also use U-Turn if you wanted.

And don't worry about the constant defenses drops from CC..as a revenge killer..it's going to be switching out alot.

Also this will help you with Gyara.

 

[Pokedra]

Oops! Wrong nature for Blissey. I wasn't concetrating that much when making her.
I''ll replace Starmie with Suicine probably. I'm going to try using this team on SHoddy and bit more and then I make some changes.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Tyranitar (as you stated) goes down to close combat..So do other rock or steel types...And you said that grass knot deals with bulky waters...Thunderpunch does this much better IMO..

Considering Suicune, Swampert, Milotic, and Slowbro are all utterly massacred by a 100-120BP Grass Knot, I'm inclined to disagree with you here (Thunderpunch hits weaker on Vaporeon than Close Combat, so it's really only for Tentacruel)

 

[Pokedra]

The title was changed by D_A! The noo..umm....genius

Considering Suicune, Swampert, Milotic, and Slowbro are all utterly massacred by a 100-120BP Grass Knot, I'm inclined to disagree with you here (Thunderpunch hits weaker on Vaporeon than Close Combat, so it's really only for Tentacruel)

Finally we agree on something XD..jokes.
I played a few battles with this team on Shoddy and I found Infernape really doesn't do well I'll replace him for Machamp :)

And D_A you did not win..change the title back at once or Anti if you did it!

 

[Archer]

Finally we agree on something XD..jokes.
I played a few battles with this team on Shoddy and I found Infernape really doesn't do well I'll replace him for Machamp :)

And D_A you did not win..change the title back at once or Anti if you did it!

lol, D_A owned you and you know it. :D

Starmie and Azelf are effectively doing the same thing, So I'd suggest running bulky WishVappy over Starmie and consider running a NP set on Azelf.

 

[Pokedra]

I know and I'm sick of him changing my thread title so I'm going to SPAM his profile with useless VM's.

EDIT : I spammed his profile with an awesome troll/noob rant^_^

 

[SkyPioneer]

You seem to have made a mistake with your Machamp.
First and foremost, you have spelt "Absorber" incorrectly.
Secondly, Rest does not activate Guts.
Yeah.

 

[Dark Azelf]

You seem to have made a mistake with your Machamp.
First and foremost, you have spelt "Absorber" incorrectly.
Secondly, Rest does not activate Guts.
Yeah.

Im pretty sure it DOES activate Guts, because i had a Heracross do 45% to a mence with Megahorn whilst asleep lol

 

[Max™]

ok if anything, BB on metagross so for walls dood

THEN you can try out cross chop, but if your REALLY fussy about accuracy, stick to brick break. or the set D_A just told you

 

[.]

Rest does activate Guts, SkyPioneer. I think you were a tad confused about ResTalk activating Facade.

 

[Pokedra]

Nah I'm good with BP and MM because they help alot and Meteor Mash owns Lax and Bliss anyway. This team is okay but I like my other team better. I feel like playing more Ubers now so I'm going to be making a new team for it soon.