4th Gen Legends - Real or not?

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Nacon said:
I can totally see that... like how Dratinis were once thought to be legendary.... check the dexes on that, you'll see what I mean......

that also makes me really wonder about the starter pokemon... we only see 'em as starters or against in game trainers throughout the gameplay... and it's mentioned that they live in certain parts of the world.... how come we never see 'em in the wild?
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Were Dratini thought to be legendary? Then than makes me doubt a lot. Really, some have no unusual powers.

Starters, if they were rare, they wouldn't be given to starting trainers. It's just that they aren't in your region. But it's most likely just a mechanic from the game rather than a real fact.

Nacon said:
you never know... what's revered as a God in one place could just be another simpleton in another.
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That made me laugh a lot. Anyway, I believe that's true. Deoxys is more powerful than most "world creators" from Earth, and who knows if it's just a weak Pokémon in space?
 
yo... Shiny Umbreon... makes me wonder...... it's like the whole Superman complex... the yellow Sun gave the son of Krypton his powers.... probably like how a common-cold-equivalent found its way to Earth and become Deoxys... lol...


oh about the Dratini thing:
https://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/147
check out the list of its dex from all the poke-games.
 
Kyogre created the sea, Lugia rules the sea, and Manaphy is just there being the prince maybe a long ancestorial connection to mew. which in turn links mewtwo into it because of the cloning stuff making it also related to all pokemon. Therefore, Mewtwo, mew, kyogre, lugia, and manaphy all have relation to being ruler of the sea. Of course that would not be possible if Palkia wasn't there to create space.

Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos are said to be The three things that guard or whatever from lugia. Why, and how when lugia lives in the sea. Were they meaning to protect from an evil force?
 
Lunux said:
Kyogre created the sea, Lugia rules the sea, and Manaphy is just there being the prince maybe a long ancestorial connection to mew. which in turn links mewtwo into it because of the cloning stuff making it also related to all pokemon. Therefore, Mewtwo, mew, kyogre, lugia, and manaphy all have relation to being ruler of the sea. Of course that would not be possible if Palkia wasn't there to create space.

Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos are said to be The three things that guard or whatever from lugia. Why, and how when lugia lives in the sea. Were they meaning to protect from an evil force?
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you totally lost me with your linking theory... mind going more in depth?
 
Midnight Winged said:
I dont gettit. Anyways, how are the birds related at ALL to Lugia? Does groudon have a connection to Ho-Oh?
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that's what I want to know..... I don't get how the bird trio is tied into that.... I mean.... there is no mention of it, and the birds are rare, but other trainers do use 'em...
 
Nacon said:
oh about the Dratini thing:
https://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/147
check out the list of its dex from all the poke-games.
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It said "mythical", not "legendary", but it's almost the same. Legendaries are not seen everyday either.
Lunux said:
Kyogre created the sea, Lugia rules the sea, and Manaphy is just there being the prince maybe a long ancestorial connection to mew. which in turn links mewtwo into it because of the cloning stuff making it also related to all pokemon. Therefore, Mewtwo, mew, kyogre, lugia, and manaphy all have relation to being ruler of the sea. Of course that would not be possible if Palkia wasn't there to create space.

Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos are said to be The three things that guard or whatever from lugia. Why, and how when lugia lives in the sea. Were they meaning to protect from an evil force?
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It seems everything is now related to the sea, lol.
 
Hmmm, let me connect the dots here. Who was created to keep Kyogre and Groudon in check? Rayquaza. Who was created to keep Palkia and Dialga in check? The Three Musketeers (MEsprti, Azlef, Uxie). So in legendaries, it almost looks like there are social classes.
 
Midnight Winged said:
Hmmm, let me connect the dots here. Who was created to keep Kyogre and Groudon in check? Rayquaza. Who was created to keep Palkia and Dialga in check? The Three Musketeers (MEsprti, Azlef, Uxie). So in legendaries, it almost looks like there are social classes.
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Except that Rayquaza is stronger than Kyogre and Groudon, supposedly. But the pixies are just more in number rather than stronger.
 
So its almost like a social class, the highest legendaries are Mew and Arceus, Mewtwo was created and Mew took it out, keeping it in check, Rayquaza and the pixies are almost like order keppers, but Mew was dragged out for Mewtwo, in one of the movies, Rayquaza attacks Deoxys because it disrupts the earth, and Celebi helps out the planet, Jirachi is just a cool Poke, the birds and the regis are just rare species, but Regiggigas was made to keep the Regis in check, which is why they are needed to call him, Giratina is just a lost creature, and Darkrai and Cresselia are opposites that fight for power, but dont need supervision.
 
But we're a bit led by the books about Arceus and such. They don't have to be literal either. For example, its thousand arms. The egg that came to save the world from chaos isn't necessarily the first thing created.
 
As said before, Arceus could have plural forms of being, it could be a thousand armed person one mintue and its current form the next, or the arms are figurative and sare considered to be Pokemon.
 
I don't if this will be off topic but I don't think it is, but if humans and pokemon are to live together, than should there be a pokemon that allowed the creation of the relationships? Or would that be Ho-Oh? But it just says that Ho-Oh refuses to come back to earth till there's perfect peace among people and pokemon so that shouldn't mean that he'd be the pokemon in charge of creating the relationships possible between humans and pokemon that was passed down into being a natural thing.

Will anyone even understand this? LOL!
 
Yeah, but it just gets you wondering if there's a seperate god for pokemon than what "being" in the the pokemon world is represented as the creater of humans. That could just be GOD but just saying I wonder how would the pokemon world represent the human "GOD". Maybe that'll be a 5th gen if they make one or not but who knows.
 
Shiny Umbreon said:
Not sure if Ho-oh is really as divine. It's the guardian of Raikou, Entei and Suicune, but I think I've heard nothing else, at least in the canon.
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seriously... there's so much more to Ho-Oh than it seems!... hmmm....
 
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