4th Gen Legends - Real or not?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I still don't get why you guys feel or think that all the legends tie into a global think in the pokemon universe....

I still really feel that these legends are regional.
 
I still don't get why you guys feel or think that all the legends tie into a global think in the pokemon universe....

I still really feel that these legends are regional.
Well, that's not applicable in some cases. How can Kyogre create only part of the sea (the one in Hoenn). If he made the sea, who made the rest of the sea?

That's just an example. But I agree that in some cases, Pokémon can't take care of all the world.
 
Good point.

But does this mean that, if nobody in Kanto mentions Kyogre, it's not true that it really made the sea?

So Kyogre and Groudon's powers are most likely just imaginary.

if you want to get scientific about it.....

Kyogre and Groudon are a physical depiction of the constant changes in the land and sea.
Erosion makes oceans seem bigger at the expense of land, and land has constant eruptions and tectonic movements that alter the land masses. In my opinion, because of their powers and abillities, people (of the Hoenn region) feel that they are godlike.

Groudon, like I said, represents changes in landmass, his abillity causes Sunny Day to go into effect, and we all know that hot sunlight evaporates water. Its moveset and abillities go to show that it can impact the land... but even a Diglett impacts the changes in land with the tunnels it digs...

Kyogre represents changes in oceanfront, and his abillity causes it to Rain constantly. We all know how rain redistrubutes moisture and creates puddles in the land. Its moveset even goes to show that it impacts changes in the water, but all it really does in terms of the water is shift it around... but even a Magikarp shifts the water when it splashes.

Groudon and Kyogre are a check and balance to eachother, and as a result, depict the cycle of land mass changes and oceanfront changes.

Rayquaza, I know I have to mention him to get this to work, is a powerful depiction of the constantness of SKY.... not matter how much it rains, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes... no matter how these things change the surface, the SKY still looks the same. Rayquaza is a powerful pokemon that depicts the constant steadiness of the sky. When it battled with Deoxys, it was battling an extraterrestial being, and that is similar to how our planet's atmosphere burns down meteors, and even deflects them. Its moveset revolves around elemental aspects of the sky. And besides... even if it is raining, if one was to go further up, ABOVE the clouds, the skies are clear.

I mean, in the literal sense... what are Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza? They are an Armadillo, a Whale, and a Chinese Dragon (the snake like, flying appearance versus the Medieval Europe Lizard like appearance similar to Salamence). These creatures themselves are capable of things out of the typical. I know that comparing a Chinese Dragon in terms of realism fails because it is a mythological creature, but an Armadillo... it's a very durable animal that can survive in various conditions, and a Whale, well... it's a mammal that lives at sea, it is vast in terms of its appetite, and it constatly travels all over the world.


Mythology and Religion create explanations to things that we don't quite understand until science comes into effect and these pokes are so powerful that the ancestors felt they were godlike.... and we definitely saw that when they battled, the way it impacted that part of the world.



In the real world, some religions feel that certain animals are depictions of things, sacred, and possess holy abillities..... like Cats in Egypt being guardians of the underworld... Cows possessing the womb of life... and so on... and yet, once again, these were regional beliefs.... in one part of the world, we're slicing up cows to make meats, in another part, we pray to them... hmm....
 
if you want to get scientific about it.....

Kyogre and Groudon are a physical depiction of the constant changes in the land and sea.
Erosion makes oceans seem bigger at the expense of land, and land has constant eruptions and tectonic movements that alter the land masses. In my opinion, because of their powers and abillities, people (of the Hoenn region) feel that they are godlike.

Groudon, like I said, represents changes in landmass, his abillity causes Sunny Day to go into effect, and we all know that hot sunlight evaporates water. Its moveset and abillities go to show that it can impact the land... but even a Diglett impacts the changes in land with the tunnels it digs...

Kyogre represents changes in oceanfront, and his abillity causes it to Rain constantly. We all know how rain redistrubutes moisture and creates puddles in the land. Its moveset even goes to show that it impacts changes in the water, but all it really does in terms of the water is shift it around... but even a Magikarp shifts the water when it splashes.

Groudon and Kyogre are a check and balance to eachother, and as a result, depict the cycle of land mass changes and oceanfront changes.

Rayquaza, I know I have to mention him to get this to work, is a powerful depiction of the constantness of SKY.... not matter how much it rains, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes... no matter how these things change the surface, the SKY still looks the same. Rayquaza is a powerful pokemon that depicts the constant steadiness of the sky. When it battled with Deoxys, it was battling an extraterrestial being, and that is similar to how our planet's atmosphere burns down meteors, and even deflects them. Its moveset revolves around elemental aspects of the sky. And besides... even if it is raining, if one was to go further up, ABOVE the clouds, the skies are clear.

I mean, in the literal sense... what are Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza? They are an Armadillo, a Whale, and a Chinese Dragon (the snake like, flying appearance versus the Medieval Europe Lizard like appearance similar to Salamence). These creatures themselves are capable of things out of the typical. I know that comparing a Chinese Dragon in terms of realism fails because it is a mythological creature, but an Armadillo... it's a very durable animal that can survive in various conditions, and a Whale, well... it's a mammal that lives at sea, it is vast in terms of its appetite, and it constatly travels all over the world.


Mythology and Religion create explanations to things that we don't quite understand until science comes into effect and these pokes are so powerful that the ancestors felt they were godlike.... and we definitely saw that when they battled, the way it impacted that part of the world.



In the real world, some religions feel that certain animals are depictions of things, sacred, and possess holy abillities..... like Cats in Egypt being guardians of the underworld... Cows possessing the womb of life... and so on... and yet, once again, these were regional beliefs.... in one part of the world, we're slicing up cows to make meats, in another part, we pray to them... hmm....
That'd be okay if we had seen cats or cows do something special in the real world. They don't summon rain or sunlight, right?
 
That'd be okay if we had seen cats or cows do something special in the real world. They don't summon rain or sunlight, right?

yea... last time I checked....none of my 3 cats did much of ANYTHING.. except puke, purr, vomit, eat and sleep....

I figured I'd use those as examples to support the region- based mythology theory.
 
yea... last time I checked....none of my 3 cats did much of ANYTHING.. except puke, purr, vomit, eat and sleep....

I figured I'd use those as examples to support the region- based mythology theory.
OK. I agree with that. Probably Sandslash doesn't get that much attention in Kanto but Groudon is a god-like beast in Hoenn. Except that Groudon does have some sort of power.

But I'm thinking about Latias. It could supposedly become invisible and everything, but it's just a special something (what was it? down?). Maybe Kyogre and Groudon do have some power (they're big and powerful, at least) and people have started to exaggerate about it and treat them as what the legends say they are.
 
OK. I agree with that. Probably Sandslash doesn't get that much attention in Kanto but Groudon is a god-like beast in Hoenn. Except that Groudon does have some sort of power.

But I'm thinking about Latias. It could supposedly become invisible and everything, but it's just a special something (what was it? down?). Maybe Kyogre and Groudon do have some power (they're big and powerful, at least) and people have started to exaggerate about it and treat them as what the legends say they are.

yea very true... because legends are founded on some truth... time does have a tendency to distort things.

think about in our world, how Achilles was such a great, seemingly invincible warrior.
 
a great warrior, the Hero of the Trojan war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles

"Achilles has the attributes of being the most handsome of the heroes assembled at Troy,[1] as well as the quickest. Central to his myth is his relationship with Patroclus, characterized in different sources as either deep friendship or passionate love.

Later legends (beginning with a poem by Statius in the first century AD) state that Achilles was invulnerable on all of his body except for his heel. These legends state that Achilles was killed in battle by an arrow to the heel, and so an Achilles' heel has come to mean a person's only weakness. Achilles' death came in retribution for a sacrilege he had previously committed, his decapitation of Troilus upon an altar-omphalos of Apollo."


Greek Mythology.... some of my favorite... lol.
 
a great warrior, the Hero of the Trojan war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles

"Achilles has the attributes of being the most handsome of the heroes assembled at Troy,[1] as well as the quickest. Central to his myth is his relationship with Patroclus, characterized in different sources as either deep friendship or passionate love.

Later legends (beginning with a poem by Statius in the first century AD) state that Achilles was invulnerable on all of his body except for his heel. These legends state that Achilles was killed in battle by an arrow to the heel, and so an Achilles' heel has come to mean a person's only weakness. Achilles' death came in retribution for a sacrilege he had previously committed, his decapitation of Troilus upon an altar-omphalos of Apollo."


Greek Mythology.... some of my favorite... lol.
Lol, I knew about him. Just that I couldn't identify the name in English. At first, I thought it was an animal or something. XD
 
Okay, then should we accept that Kygore and Groudon (and Rayquaza maybe) have some sort of scientifically-provable power that everyone in Hoenn think is some sort of divine powers? And I guess this can be true for some others, too.
 
Okay, then should we accept that Kygore and Groudon (and Rayquaza maybe) have some sort of scientifically-provable power that everyone in Hoenn think is some sort of divine powers? And I guess this can be true for some others, too.

you know what... yea... I agree with that..

These 3 pokes have power and strength that can impact the land and water while I still feel strongly that Rayquaza depicts the constantness of the skies.

besides... the word Divine does not necessarily mean "godlike"... it can
also mean "of superhuman or surpassing excellence"... that's what the dictionary states.

these pokemon are significantly powerful, more powerful than humans and a capable of free-thought, or at least not giving into human requests.
 
well here is my idea on arceus and its plates... well, arceus apparently created the universe with its thousand arms. maybe arceus had a thousand arms, maybe it was more powerful, and maybe it had enough power to create the universe, but it was too powerful. it had to stop itself from becoming too powerful, because power leads to evilness (i think) and so it took its power and transferred them into plates, which enchanted them. one plate for every type, one plate for every thing that he created. so it might have, at one point, been every type, much stronger, and much more powerful. as for mew and arceus, maybe mew created arceus at the same time arceus created the universe. it would have been like this: mew creates arceus as arceus creates mew, along with the universe. thats just what i think...
 
"Power leads to evil"? That's true for humanity only, I think.

I'm not sure if Arceus and Mew can exist in the same theory, but, really, Arceus making the world? There's no such thing. I know its power it's now divided in plates but it's just something that will never happen, in my opinion.
 
Palkia, Dialga, and the 3 Spirits would go into space and make a real Pokemon world. Day by day, children/adults/seniors would go to the Pokemon Island to start a pokemon journey.
 
Mmmm......I think Arceus' plates have some significance...as if it's power was shattered...

Pokemon Diamond, I don't understand. Your post makes no sense at all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top