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[Goldeneyes]

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Gyarados@ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EV: 76 Hp/252 Atk/180 Spe
Nature: Adamant

- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake




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Salamence@ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EV: 220 Hp/196 Def/12 Atk/80 Spe
Nature: Jolly

- Dragon Claw
- Brick Break
- Dragon Dance
- Roost



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Spiritomb@ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EV: 252 Hp/140 Atk/116 SpD

- Taunt
- Sucker Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split





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Snorlax@ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EV: 244 Hp/236 SpD/28 Atk
Nature: Careful

- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Body Slam
- Earthquake




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Metagross@ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EV: 252 Hp/164 Atk/96 Def
Nature: Impish

- Reflect
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch




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Starmie@ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EV: 216 Spe/172 Hp/120 SpA
Nature: Timid

- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Recover

 

[Dark Azelf]

Do you really need T-Bolt on both Starmie AND Weezing ? They both do the same thing really, aka counter Gyarados.

I would replace T-Bold on Starmie and use Ice Beam, as Garchomp and dragons hurt. Alternately, you could use Hidden power Ice on Weezing >> Bolt. It allows Weezing to combat Dragon Much easier.

However, some concern, heatran REALLY is a pain. I think you want a MUCH more reliable sp.wall >> Zong to help deal with this.

Although then t-tar is a pain without Zong, so try Mach punch Breloom =D and make the dude bulky so you can switch it in easier etc.

Something like

Breloom@Toxic Orb
236 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Speed
Adamant Nature
- Seed Bomb
- Protect
- Mach Punch
- Spore


Dont lead with gengar either, its auto fail vs Pursuit from weavile etc. Id much sooner lead with gyarados OR the Mach punch Breloom, as Protect makes it a handy scouting tool and then you can watch that smile fade from fail scarf gars face as it tries to Hypnosis you =D.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Azelf can quite possibly destroy this team, but I so have to check base speeds. It can inflict quite a good amount of damage on your team with Psychic, Flamethrower, Shadow Ball and Thunderbolt. If it's a Nasty Plotter, your going to have serious problems, but you should probably be able to deal with a Choice Specs variant.
6/10, needs a good Azelf counter.

 

[Sora_8920]

Mm, no real Special Wall. And Bronzong is Azelf weak. plus, it has no recovery. T_T

Try Blissey, or else Azelf > your team.

Blissey @ Lefties 40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.ATK and Aromatherapy / Ice Beam / Thunder Wave, Toxic, or some other attack (probably Seismic Toss) / Softboiled is the set.

 

[Anti]

If I get ONE MORE FATAL ERROR...

To summarize what I tried to post earlier, run Snorlax/Blissey >>> Gengar who is not helping you a whole lot (what a shocker). That way you'll have a special walling core of sorts.

 

[Archer]

If I get ONE MORE FATAL ERROR...

To summarize what I tried to post earlier, run Snorlax/Blissey >>> Gengar who is not helping you a whole lot (what a shocker). That way you'll have a special walling core of sorts.

Gengar is the Spec Sweeper, so removing that would make the team even more easily walled. Which is a problem, as the team lacks a mixed sweeper, already.

I would suggest Blissey/Snorlax over Bronzong, as it wont be taking many special hits. The only problem there, is the lack of a dragon resist.

 

[ABYAY]

As D_A suggested, you could go with the Anti-Starter set on Breloom, which is explained above. Lead with it, Protect to make Poison activate, shut down Scarf-nosis-Gar if it appears, and scout for attacks. Weavile fails to Mach Punch, as well as Tyranitar, and anything else you can Spore.

A defensive Metagross, or r0flect g00se, could deal with Outrages, set up Reflects, and Meteor Mash or even Ice Punch them into oblivion if you opt to use it.

Metagross@Leftovers
Impish nature
252HP/164atk/96def

Reflect
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Ice Punch/Thunderpunch/Something good (lol)

I got this set from Dark_Azelf I believe a while back, and it's pretty impressive. 350 Defense with 363 HP is plenty to take on a Banded Outrage or other Dragon move with ease. Use Reflect if they're locked into using it, or if you have Ice Punch, smack that Dragon out of the way for the match. This COULD be used over Gyarados, but leaves you walled easier; then again, most people fear Explosion... At this point, you could opt for a wall like Blissey or Snorlax.

 

[Goldeneyes]

I'm just playing with the Breloom set until I decide to use that set.

 

[Core-3X]

Maybe that you can make Gyarados more Bulky by maxing his HP. With Taunt, he can really be annoying. The other pokemon are looking good. It's quite a standard team, so it should have much resistance agaist most teams, but you should look out for thema-teams like Sandstorm etc.

 

[Dark Azelf]

OK, what have you done to breloom now 0_o

No Mach punch on Breloom is just DD Taunt t-tar, just goes OLOL at ALL your team. Jolly on Breloom is garbage, it falters anyways to the pokemon who are around its jolly speed mark. Use the set i posted, it benefits your team greatly.

 

[DeoTheDemolisher]

The team is good but its so boring to battle people who use these pokemon. The team is standard and wont be catching anyone off guard. Try making something that is different and fun to battle with new ideas and such. As for the team you have here its weak to this little thing called Deoxys-S it would kill gyrodose in one thunderbolt. OHKO Gengar. OHKO Starmie if its not EV in spl def. OHKO breloom with ice beam or physhic. 2OHKO snorlax with super power. maybe OHKO Weezing in one shot. Trust me Deoxys-S is becoming very populer all of the sudden. When countering Deoxys-S dont use something to try and out speed it ..pick something more on the defensive side.

 

[Dark Azelf]

The team is good but its so boring to battle people who use these pokemon. The team is standard and wont be catching anyone off guard. Try making something that is different and fun to battle with new ideas and such. As for the team you have here its weak to this little thing called Deoxys-S it would kill gyrodose in one thunderbolt. OHKO Gengar. OHKO Starmie if its not EV in spl def. OHKO breloom with ice beam or physhic. 2OHKO snorlax with super power. maybe OHKO Weezing in one shot. Trust me Deoxys-S is becoming very populer all of the sudden. When countering Deoxys-S dont use something to try and out speed it ..pick something more on the defensive side.

No one cares how standard his team is, its in the rules that YOU DO NOT STATE that. Its moot, so stop it. now.


I tend not to worry about D-E, as long as you predict, aka, Lax to take its sp.att's and Rest on the turn it uses Super Power,it forces it to switch out and go away.

On predicted Super Powers, he can get Star or what ever to take those aswell and then go to lax for the following sp.atts.

Whilst it CAN hit all his team for SE, i dont see it as much of a threat..really.

 

[Anti]

Gengar is the Spec Sweeper, so removing that would make the team even more easily walled. Which is a problem, as the team lacks a mixed sweeper, already.

No, Starmie already takes care of the physical walls that would then "wall" his team, as well as spinning away Spikes and Stealth Rock that Skarmory and friends set up. The only thing Gengar does for this team is provides a death fodder and hit Dusknoir for supereffective damage. As for mixed sweepers, I never run them and I've had plenty of success. No mixed sweeper doesn't mean you're easily walled (not to say that's what you were implying).

As for the team, oh man does Tyranitar tear you apart. Breloom isn't the greatest Tyranitar counter, but I suggest using it and putting in Mach Punch, or DDing versions are going to sweep you and CB versions are going to massively dent your team.

This team is also weak to Gengar, Mismagius, Azelf, and (I've always wanted to say this) Alakazam. Snorlax can't really hurt Azelf, so it can set up and do a number on you. By that I mean sweep your entire team. Choice Specs Alakazam has the power to blow past most of your team with a boosted Psychic (basically everything except Snorlax and maybe Starmie, who are drilled by its other moves while they fail to KO it). Gengar basically can 6-0 you unlesas your Gengar wins the speed tie, and I think we all agree that it is not a good way to try to deal with the most used special sweeper in the game. Mismagius has more trouble totally sweeping you with Gengar around, but you're playing with fire.

Spiritomb is an all-in-one solution to this problem, so I would use it >>> Gengar. Your team has A LOT more stability defensively.

BTW Snorlax has too many EVs by about 30. You might wanna check that out.

 

[Syaoran]

D-E runs over this team pretty hard. Even if Superpower is predicted (while you switch to Gyara or Starmie), you will be forced to switch again so entry hazards will take their toll on your pokes (Starmie can't stay to Rapid Spin since it fears T-bolt). You need a pokemon that can handle it, I don't see Breloom or Weezing being very useful here - maybe change one of them, since you already need a way of dealing with Mixmence, or even SpecsMence (Snorlax won't enjoy switching on repeated hits). ScarfGross could work for nice revenge killing but that's totally up to you.

If you intend to keep breloom, give him Leech Seed and drop Protect.

 

[Goldeneyes]

The thing I worry about is my special sweeping. It is not very powerful and I will have trouble breaking physical walls. My walling and my physical sweeping is pretty solid but my special sweeping is not.

 

[Archer]

The thing I worry about is my special sweeping. It is not very powerful and I will have trouble breaking physical walls. My walling and my physical sweeping is pretty solid but my special sweeping is not.

Most Physical Walls are going to have trouble walling all 3 Physical Sweepers, and Starmie should be able to deal with the ones who can. I am more concerned for your teams inability to take Physical Hits. I would take that defensive Gross set Abyay mentioned.

 

[Goldeneyes]

I have taken that set.
I am worried that I can't have a fighting resist.
Spiritomb can safely switch in on every fighting move but maybe not the move that follows up.
Can someone provide a solution!

 

[Anti]

Weezing is probably the best pure fighting resist around. Gliscor does the same thing but it is a better physical wall IMO, and either one would do a whole lot of good over that fail Breloom, who still does absolutely ntohing for your team at all.

I would keep Spiritomb, as it beats the sweepers Snorlax can't on the special side. It's going to need Sucker Punch to reliably counter stuff like Azelf and Gengar though. I learned that the hard way from Ooka lol.

Where is the physical walling though? Reflect Metagross is good, but it's going to have a lot of trouble switching in on a lot of stuff. Salamence does good against all of its main weaknesses (fire, ground, and while fighting isn't a weakness, fighters roll the thing over). Bulky DDmence could go over Breloom rather than Weezing or Gliscor. It is a pretty nice fighting resist that would help you out quite a bit. Gyarados provides a temporary solution but switching in on repeated fighting attackers is going to hurt its ability to sweep. BTW, give that Gyarados Life Orb or Wacan Berry or something. Leftovers makes it more durable, but generally LO is more useful.

Seriously though, that Breloom just has to go. No matter how bland the Sub/Spore Puncher might seem, it's A LOT more effective. I'd honestly just get rid of it.

 

[Goldeneyes]

What about DD-tar?
Taking Breloom out leaves the team much more vulnerable to him.