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Many pokedexes?

Nath74K

Nath74K

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    On the japanese video, when they show the pokedex, we can see there is the Alola Pokedex and the Melemele Pokedex.

    What do you think it means? A Pokedex per Island? A post-game region? Anything else?
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    Nath74K said:
    On the japanese video, when they show the pokedex, we can see there is the Alola Pokedex and the Melemele Pokedex.

    What do you think it means? A Pokedex per Island? A post-game region? Anything else?
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    Hmm, it most likely every island as there's five sections (most likely corresponding to the four big islands and some other place (artificial island?). Since the reveal of the first island I've wondered if the island itself is actually Alola. Perhaps Alola is the big island (like how Hawaii state is named after the big island) and the small islands have their own names. This thought came to me as the Sevii islands all had their own names.
     
    I actually didn't notice that, but I would say the 5th slot is the National Pokedex. Each island has its own and then the National.

    But we can't count out that there may be a few other islands. On the 3D map, you can tell that in the very top right corner, there is a small island covered by clouds. And then when we get the in game region map, that island is being blocked, along with possibly a southern island.

    1 island wasn't used in the map, and that was the long island. Which could be under the clouds to the south.
     
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    I'm kinda agreeing with Icy. If we look at the Pokedex in X/Y we had the three regional Dexes shown first in a list, with the National Dex at the bottom, and it appears this will likely be the case for S/M as well.
     
    You're right, I actually forgot about the three dexes for Kalos!
    With 4 different Dexes, I hope it means there will be a whole lot of Pokémon to catch, and a lot of new ones!
     
    It's almost certainly one dex per island (orange) and the national dex (red). I think that's a good way to do it. But it makes me wonder if we're meant to "complete" each island before moving on to the next or if they intent for us to have a lot of back-and-forth as new areas open up.
     
    I agree with Hakamaru, it could be that there are different Pokédexes for each island and that Rotom is like the central one who helps you with updating your pokédex. Lillie can also do this
     
    Nath74K said:
    You're right, I actually forgot about the three dexes for Kalos!
    With 4 different Dexes, I hope it means there will be a whole lot of Pokémon to catch, and a lot of new ones!
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    If 3 sections of Kalos had a total of 450+ Pokemon, I could imagine the 4 islands of Alola amounting to an even larger combined regional Dex.
     
    The top one is probably the national dex and the remaining four are probably for each individual island. That would be my guess.

    It looks like it'll form a rainbow pattern when it's complete. (I think the logo part of the pokedex has a rainbow symbol next to Rotom)
     
    I saw that the red section contains the katakana for Alola (アローラ地方) so maybe Alola is the name of the starting island and then the other islands have different names. Like with XY's Pokedex menu I expect the last slot to be the National Dex.
     
    Red Bar (top): Alola Zukan (Picture Encyclopedia; Japanese term for "PokéDex")
    Orange Bar: Meremere Zukan
    3 empty bars
    Yellow Bar (bottom): Zukan Evaluation

    So basically, the top one is the entire Alola Dex, and the 4 subsequent bars represent each island, most likely, with "Meremere" being the name of one of them. The top bar (Alola Dex) will likely just be the four bellow combined--notice how those are indented, indicating they are "sub-sections" of the main Alola Dex.

    The yellow bar is for Dex Evaluation, so it confirms you can do it straight from the Dex itself (I wonder if this means doing it on PC will no longer be an option?). I wonder who will evaluate your Dex: Kukui who you contact via PokéSkype on the Dex, or if the Rotom itself will evaluate?
     
    Personally I think, the the one on top might be the regional Pokédex of Alola as a whole, given that it has katakana for Alola region in it, and there are 4 sub-sections alluding to the islands of which Pokémon are hailing from, just like how Kalos Dex is divided into 3 categories and all.

    This makes me think if Alola Dex's numbering will possibly follow the numbering of Meremere Zukan first and then following the rest of 3 Zukan lists later on, like, let's say if Meremere Zukan have 150 species in it, then the first species on the second Zukan list will be treated like No. 151 in Alola Dex, or so I think. If so, this might be tad bit convenient to have semi-National Dex on the get-go.
     
    Something kind of strange just occurred to me. If we're to assume that the Alola pokedex will only contain 200 pokemon (as the 1% seemed to suggest, even though it could just give you 1% with just one pokemon regardless of how many pokemon are in the pokedex) then it makes the QR picture seem kind of strange.

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    Maybe this is just me but I wouldn't really expect to see past starter Pokemon appearing in a region that only had 200 Pokemon....at least not during the story. Yet the QR code feature seems to casually have a Serperior popping up. (It doesn't seem like this Serperior is special in the way the Kanto starters were in Kalos)

    Unless the QR catching feature is going to be post-game? Seems kinda odd to reveal it so early in that case....

    Also I'm surprised nobody has brought up how notable it is that you'll presumably be able to just catch a fully evolved starter now.
     
    If I remember, the Kalos Dex's three sections had around 150 Pokemon each and that amounted for a total of around 457. If we have four sections with 150 Pokemon each, it'll probably be double the number of total Pokemon we had in the Kalos Dex.
     
    I went back to Pokemon Y and checked to see if they other dexes were hinted at before you unlocked them. For the most part, it showed no blanks, but it did have the symbol at the top.

    Looking at this, it doesn't really make sense for one of the Dexes to be called Alola, as there was no Kalos Dex. It went from the 3 sections to national.

    I am also doubting the one listed Alola would be counting the starters with central, unless it was all of them combined. Yellow, could be a sub category of Alola, make 4 dexes. If that is the case, and there is about 150 again, that is 600 pokemon. If 200, that is 800. I am also betting the larger islands will have more like I said, so we are looking at 600 to 800 total pokemon. If they go for at least 150.
     
    IcyIce said:
    I went back to Pokemon Y and checked to see if they other dexes were hinted at before you unlocked them. For the most part, it showed no blanks, but it did have the symbol at the top.

    Looking at this, it doesn't really make sense for one of the Dexes to be called Alola, as there was no Kalos Dex. It went from the 3 sections to national.

    I am also doubting the one listed Alola would be counting the starters with central, unless it was all of them combined. Yellow, could be a sub category of Alola, make 4 dexes. If that is the case, and there is about 150 again, that is 600 pokemon. If 200, that is 800. I am also betting the larger islands will have more like I said, so we are looking at 600 to 800 total pokemon. If they go for at least 150.
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    Alola could be the big island like Hawaii's big island being called Hawaii, with the Oahu based on having the second dex. The starters could be considered native to the big island hence it's appearance in that dex.

    That 600 and 800 is assuming they're all the same size. One could be 151, another 100, 138, and 118 or so (I forget the official numbers). Perhaps as references to the numbers introduced in the first four gens. Or 156 or so since Kalos' dex numbers were already a shoutout to Kanto's.
     
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire said:
    Alola could be the big island like Hawaii's big island being called Hawaii, with the Oahu based on having the second dex. The starters could be considered native to the big island hence it's appearance in that dex.

    That 600 and 800 is assuming they're all the same size. One could be 151, another 100, 138, and 118 or so (I forget the official numbers). Perhaps as references to the numbers introduced in the first four gens. Or 156 or so since Kalos' dex numbers were already a shoutout to Kanto's.
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    This is true. But I wouldn't think they would name one based on the island and then the others named after colors. But it isn't impossible. But yeah I thinking that there will be different numbers. If we have four islands, I would say something like this.

    Big Island = 230
    Starter Island = 120
    Pool Island = 160
    West Island = 140

    Those are just rough estimates. The starting island is the smalled and then the big island is about double in size. So Big Island would probably have doubled the amount of starting island. Agian this are just rough estimates. I doubt they are going to reduce the amount of pokemon in the regional dex. I am not sure they have ever done that other than in Unova, which was done on purpose.

    200 seems a bit of a jump from 457. But it slowly goes up with each generation. Sinnoh had 210 in Pt, Unova had 300 in BW2, and Kalos had 457
     
    IcyIce said:
    This is true. But I wouldn't think they would name one based on the island and then the others named after colors. But it isn't impossible. But yeah I thinking that there will be different numbers. If we have four islands, I would say something like this.

    Big Island = 230
    Starter Island = 120
    Pool Island = 160
    West Island = 140

    Those are just rough estimates. The starting island is the smalled and then the big island is about double in size. So Big Island would probably have doubled the amount of starting island. Agian this are just rough estimates. I doubt they are going to reduce the amount of pokemon in the regional dex. I am not sure they have ever done that other than in Unova, which was done on purpose.

    200 seems a bit of a jump from 457. But it slowly goes up with each generation. Sinnoh had 210 in Pt, Unova had 300 in BW2, and Kalos had 457
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    600 is also a jump from 457 though. I can see 500, but not 600 (though XY did jump greatly from B2W2's 300). If each dex were even then 125 for each island. Perhaps 100 for starter and 150 for Big, 125 for the other two.

    Hoenn's dex is smaller than Johto's at 202 compared to 251 irc. So the number has dropped in the Odd generations, at least the first pairs. However the drops have been of 50-60 thus far. DP's dex also had less than Hoenn did.
     
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