Map Hack Of Week!!!

[SharpPoint]

It doesn't seem disorganized to me. And I think the caps are there to be clear about things.

He hasn't shown any hint of not continuing it. If it's just future advice that you are giving out, then I apologize for taking it wrong.

Everyone needs to stop complaining so much. Apparently none of you read the, "Remember this is for fun!" rule. So what if you have to PM him to vote? Don't anyone say that it's harder that way. It's the same amount of clicks. It's one extra damn click. So sorry you guys can't raise your post count for a vote. And his voting system is the best that Map of the Week has ever had. It makes you go though each of the maps rather than voting for whatever one jumps out at you first. And trust me, a majority of the votes in the old Map of the Week threads were just, "I vote for blahblahblah because the shape is good and the combination of tiles and palettes go well together." All of your arguments against this thread are just pointless, save for the one about the time spent on making the map.

On a lighter note...

Spoiler:

I don't agree with most of what you said. I understand making some points clear by using caps but he went a little bit too far. And yes, technically speaking, it is harder to PM vote instead of posting. The box for posting is right at the bottom yet to PM him you'd have to click his name to view his profile, click send message, then give the PM a title, then type the votes. By posting, you save time and money. (Lulz, it takes power for every minute a comp/laptop is on) That way, it's better for the environment! So actually no, none of my arguments are 'pointless'. If they had no point, I wouldn't have said it. You are just saying they are pointless because you don't agree with them. So sad...

Edit: I am not saying is harder to vote through PM. So don't say that.

 

[sasquatchd00d]

As SharpPoint said, it's easier to manipulate the votes that way, because we, as normal/supporter members, can't view the votes submitted by PM. I do agree his rating system is pretty well thought-out, though.

Oh and by the way, we may be complaining, but a little complaining is good every once in a while. It's actually another form of criticism if taken correctly.

Also, we never said it was harder to PM him the votes, but, it leaves room for manipulation of the vote count, which, would be biased.

You call the ability (not that s/he would, but we don't know) to manipulate votes good? I still say publicly announcing the votes is better, because everyone can track them, and such there are more witnesses to the votes.

Another thing, what the hell does the "Remember, this is for fun!" rule have to do with the voting system?

Yes, the votes may be manipulated. Although in the older threads, the votes could also be manipulated to an extent, whereas the validity of votes was at the discretion on the topic creator. Seeing them does help, I agree there, but it's not really needed. This was approved by destinedjagold and if Alice or Vrai thinks that there could be the possibility of vote manipulation they could just make him make the votes public.

I agree with your criticism point too. I may have gone too far with the complaints. Maybe it's just my frustration with all the complaining over in HeartGold/SoulSilver that put me over the top.

It was said that some people are too lazy to PM. Lazy people look for the easy route.

No, no, no. Of course not! That would be ludicrous. I was merely stating that to vote you have to go through every map is better than previous threads.

I was talking about the complaining. Have fun with it, don't complain. It's not like this is Hack of the Year... right?

I don't agree with most of what you said. I understand making some points clear by using caps but he went a little bit too far. And yes, technically speaking, it is harder to PM vote instead of posting. The box for posting is right at the bottom yet to PM him you'd have to click his name to view his profile, click send message, then give the PM a title, then type the votes. By posting, you save time and money. (Lulz, it takes power for every minute a comp/laptop is on) That way, it's better for the environment! So actually no, none of my arguments are 'pointless'. If they had no point, I wouldn't have said it. You are just saying they are pointless because you don't agree with them.

If you click "Go Advanced" like I do every time, that's one click. Or you can click the user name and then click one more time on "Send a Private Message to...". That's two clicks. There's no navigating to their profile. And yes, "pointless," was an exaggeration. Sorry about that.

So sad...

I didn't mind your post until this. Why insult me?

Edit: I am not saying is harder to vote through PM. So don't say that.

Didn't see this before. Commence strike-through.

 

[.Seth]

Yes, the votes may be manipulated. Although in the older threads, the votes could also be manipulated to an extent, whereas the validity of votes was at the discretion on the topic creator. Seeing them does help, I agree there, but it's not really needed. This was approved by destinedjagold and if Alice or Vrai thinks that there could be the possibility of vote manipulation they could just make him make the votes public.

I agree with your criticism point too. I may have gone too far with the complaints. Maybe it's just my frustration with all the complaining over in HeartGold/SoulSilver that put me over the top.

It was said that some people are too lazy to PM. Lazy people look for the easy route.

No, no, no. Of course not! That would be ludicrous. I was merely stating that to vote you have to go through every map is better than previous threads.

I was talking about the complaining. Have fun with it, don't complain. It's not like this is Hack of the Year... right?

While you are right that in any voting system that we know off, the votes can be maniupulated, some, more than others.

It could be HG/SS getting to you, but I think you did go a bit too far, in my opinion. No harm done, though. I understand how you feel. (Believe me, we all can do regretful things when we're in bad moods. *nod nod*)

Lazy people do take the easy route, but sometimes, there's no point in taking the harder, longer path.

Ah, I see what you mean now. Excuse me for that.

I agree. You should just have fun with it, but, it doesn't hurt to mention when something's wrong. And no, it isn't Hack of the Year, but it is still a competition.

Also, I do think making the votes public would yield more votes, thus leading to less, overall bias.

Anyways, I might be in the mood for making a map for this tomorrow, so I might try my luck again. But, only one vote is bad. No second opinion, nothing. But, it's not the OP's or our fault.

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

Wind, this place has a larger diversity of maps, instead of a pre-made selection of maps. Yours was already biased from the start. This wasn't.

Now go away.

Still, I REALLY don't see why we should PM it! I'm not being lazy or anything, but it's EXACTLY the same to post it here, and it's easier for everyone to see the votes all put together here. >_>

 

[sasquatchd00d]

I'll ask him to change the votes to be posted in the thread. I'll see him Monday if he isn't online by then. I don't think he'll say no.

 

[Vrai]

Well, as much as we know that votes could possibly have the ability to be manipulated through PM, I do quite like the idea of voting through PM better. That way, after having several people vote, other voters cannot see what the first ones said. Reading through other peoples' comments could possibly make your vote different than what it would have been before ("hey, that guy noticed a tile error.. where is it, anyways? *scrunches eyes* oh! there it is! *takes one point off*"). Besides that, generally, if a map is in the lead, people have a tendency to vote for that one more (remember Shian's HotW? Yeah, he won by like thirteen votes because after the first five people voted for it, everyone else did) than the other maps which could deserve it just as well.

In my opinion, there are a number of advantages by using PMs to vote in; and if you are all worried about the possibility of manipulation, you can always send them to me as well. That way, if some trouble arises over that topic, I can step in and at least try to solve it. :D

..but voting on the thread would probably work fine too.

 

[sab]

I have to at least try, so here is my entry:

Spoiler:

also I don't think he would manipulate the results, but any thing to stop this arguing.

 

[sasquatchd00d]

Hmm, I think that the maps eligible for voting should be edited into the first post. It will get rather irksome going through the whole thread to see what maps we can vote for.

 

[manomow]

Wow. I know what you mean but wo....

 

[.Seth]

Alright to all of you who feel that "Private Messaging" your votes to me is a easy way for me to "manipulate" them.

Give me one good reason why i would do that, what would I gain from it? I haven't entered a map so I would gain nothing by manipulating the votes.

And if your going to complain about the PM voting system, how about you actually do it before you complain that it's to hard for you to click and take a little time to have a fairly judged out competition, if you don't like how I'm running this...just simply don't come here and complain, your just like the people who on youtube complain that the music sucks, if you dislike it why listen to it?
Your basically doing what they do by complaining about something you don't like, if you think this thread sucks, than p*** off.

1. Well, it is. :|
2. We never said that we think you would, we just said it's possible.
3. Telling people to "piss off" is just furthering the argument.
4. We just mentioned it might be better to post our votes rather than PMing them. We never said you had to do it that way, we just thought it'd be better. Oh by the way, that's called a suggestion. Get your facts right. :|

I'm not going to respond to whatever you say. And you know what? I'd love to run something like this, if given the chance.

 

[SharpPoint]

1. Well, it is. :|
2. We never said that we think you would, we just said it's possible.
3. Telling people to "piss off" is just furthering the argument.
4. We just mentioned it might be better to post our votes rather than PMing them. We never said you had to do it that way, we just thought it'd be better. Oh by the way, that's called a suggestion. Get your facts right. :|

I'm not going to respond to whatever you say. And you know what? I'd love to run something like this, if given the chance.

I was about to reply to his comment, but then I realized why? It's no use replying to someone who reacts like that. I hope you do get the chance to do something like. You look like you have what it takes to run this. Let's just slowly let this thread die off.

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

OH NO GUYS COME ON.

DON'T LET THIS THREAD TURN INTO A PIECE OF CRAP AS WELL! ;_;

It's his only proper thread, just get over it and vote by PM, Vrai has some really good points about it there.

 

[Q-Bone]

I might as well have a go. Image is in attachment.

 

[Nash Bandicoot]

I suppose i will give it a shot.

 

[Crimson Stardust]

My entry:

 

[sab]

My entry:

Sorry, but if I recall right voting stoped on the 18th.

 

[Crimson Stardust]

LoL..did not notvice that..xD..sorry for the mistake..

 

[Logan]

Well, seeing as the user has been banned. I see no need to keep this open, guys map of the week may be coming back =D.

Closed~