Mewtwo vs. Goku

Who would win: Goku or Mewtwo?

  • Mewtwo would kick butt.

    Votes: 33 62.3%

  • Goku owns this fight.

    Votes: 17 32.1%

  • Neither would win, they're both indestructable.

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Total voters
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He could just kill Goku sortta like Freeza did with Krillin.
 
Krillin was much weaker and easy to attack at that moment. Also mewtwo cant have unlimited psychic power its immpossible cause I watched the movie last night. They made him to have a pure mind not perfect meaning he could never lose his thought and focus never clouded. :pirate:
 
LittleFascistPanties16 said:
SINCE WHEN DID MEWTWO HAVE AN UNLIMITED MIND? WHERE THE HECK DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION??!?!?!?! TELL ME!

I said it a million times before... now you are just lying and you know it. You still haven't told me how he has unlimited Psychic power
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I'm not lying andI know where I got that info. It's really quite obvious. Mewtwo wanted something. He got it. He wished to lift a trainer into the air and toss him into a pond. It happened. he wanted to remove a wall to reveal a stadium. It happened. he wanted a powerful storm that no ship could survive,and he got it. he wnated to stop a bus form losing contorl, and he got it. he wante dto wipe the memory of Team Rocket and not eh scientists, and he got it. He wanted to levatate hudnreds of tauros into teh air, and he got it. he wanted to blow up teh lab and Giovanni's bse, and he got it. he wanted to create a new lab, and he got it. He got everything he ever wanted using his psychic powers, and if that isn't a sign that he can do anythign he wants, then I don't know what is.

And teh reason why Mewtwo couldn't beat Mew is becasue he also has his own impenetrable psychic barrier, plus Mewtwo used his powers to remove any unfair advantages in battle, so basically he reduced himself resulting in fighitng evenly with mew. he would have beaten him eventually, but the battle got called off, so Mew was lucky there.

LittleFascistPanties16 said:
Do you think that Frieza could possibly do that to Goku or Krillin now?
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And that is not the point he was making.THe point he was making was mewtwo could do that to goku jsut liek freiza did at that time. It doesn't matter what the circumstance between freiza and Krillin are now. :\
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
I'm not lying andI know where I got that info. It's really quite obvious. Mewtwo wanted something. He got it. He wished to lift a trainer into the air and toss him into a pond. It happened. he wanted to remove a wall to reveal a stadium. It happened. he wanted a powerful storm that no ship could survive,and he got it. he wnated to stop a bus form losing contorl, and he got it. he wante dto wipe the memory of Team Rocket and not eh scientists, and he got it. He wanted to levatate hudnreds of tauros into teh air, and he got it. he wanted to blow up teh lab and Giovanni's bse, and he got it. he wanted to create a new lab, and he got it. He got everything he ever wanted using his psychic powers, and if that isn't a sign that he can do anythign he wants, then I don't know what is.

And teh reason why Mewtwo couldn't beat Mew is becasue he also has his own impenetrable psychic barrier, plus Mewtwo used his powers to remove any unfair advantages in battle, so basically he reduced himself resulting in fighitng evenly with mew. he would have beaten him eventually, but the battle got called off, so Mew was lucky there.


And that is not the point he was making.THe point he was making was mewtwo could do that to goku jsut liek freiza did at that time. It doesn't matter what the circumstance between freiza and Krillin are now. :\
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Mewtwo/Mew's barrier is not impenatratable. Psychic power is based on the mind, and every mind has limits, dur.

And everything you said about 'mewtwo gets what he wants' That was all simple, easy stuff to do psychic-wise. That wouldn't hold true when comparing him to Goku. Almost everything you said was either stationary, or had no real power to exert against Mewtwo's own powers.

Mewtwo could not do that to Goku just as Frieza did it to Krillin. That was the point of the post.

Frieza could do that to Krillin because Krillin was weak at the time. If Frieza tried to do it to Krillin now, he would easily fail.

Likewise with Mewtwo to Goku. Mewtwo could do it to Goku, if Goku was weaker, but Goku is not as weak as you imply.
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
so let me get this straight: you say a pokemon style battle is not fiar but then you make it a DBZ style battle? And what makes you think Mewtwo would just sit there and take those attacks? LEvel 1: Goku uses kaoken, Mewtwo uses Psych up. Goku throws a spirit bomb, Mewto catches it using his psychic power and throws it back. If goku avoids it, he punches at mewtwo. Mewtwo throw up a powerful psychic barrier and goku breaks his hand. Then mewtwo will use Psychic and torment GOku until he dies.

LEvel three.Mewtwo puts up psychic barrier and watches as Goku foolishly warps around throwing Kamehameha's at him, to no avail. Mewtwo uses Disable, and Goku can no longer move or use warp kamehameha. It doesn't matter where he is at this point, Because It's a telekenetic attack that won't miss due to the oppponent's speed. Mewtwo does that little trick he did to the gyarados trainer in teh first movie and laughs as he continuously bashes him into teh ground, until goku can no longer move anymore, even without the disable Mewtwo throws a pyschis blast,and Goku manages an instant transmission. Goku Transforms into suepr saiyan four, but starts losing energy faster than he already was. Mewtwo does another psychic throw. goku shoots his 10X kamehameha. Mewtwo rediverts teh energy using psychic energy and sends it harmlessly into space. goku changes back due to the loss of energy. with Goku's energy drained, mewtwo easily strangles Goku to deah using another psychic toss.

At least in these fights Goku was given the chance to fight back, unlike what you did with mewtwo. Teh major thing between Goku and Mewtwo is that Mewtwo has impossible defensive capabilities, and since he performs his moves off brain power and not really any form of energy he never tires physically from it, although he may feel a little stressed mentally. While Goku has to be careful with his physical energy lest he runs out and becomes weaker than a sick dog.
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did you hear what i said? i said that there was different outcomes so i didnt say goku would win automacticly, what i meant was that was that mewtwo still had a chance of winning as well and the way i explained it was just some of the ways 4 goku 2 finsih him off.
 
None the less, he is still weaker than Mewtwo. :P And if moving a lake underground is easy, Then I'm teh King of spain. and it may not be unlimited, but the limit is then so high no one from any universe can breach it. And the same goes for Mew, making it where essentially their sheild is indestructable.
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
None the less, he is still weaker than Mewtwo. :P And if moving a lake underground is easy, Then I'm teh King of spain. and it may not be unlimited, but the limit is then so high no one from any universe can breach it. And the same goes for Mew, making it where essentially their sheild is indestructable.
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And when Cell broke away Earth to make the battle ring for that world championship thing, you don't think that is any easier? He broke apart obviously hard material.. probably granite, and he assembled it into a perfect arena. He did it with almost no effort at all, and he was defeated by Goku's son!

Now Goku is far stronger, and you still bring a pity argument like that?
 
It's one thing to destroy things psychically, metwo did it all the time. Btu do you think Cell could psychically move a large lake the size of a small ocean and put it underground without even touching the lake bed? i don't think so. Comparing the moving abilities of Cell to Mewtwo is like comapring the current of a stream to a river.
And Gohan was stronger than Goku at the time, so of course he beat Cell instead of Goku.
And dont' you think Mewtwo is constantly improving too? Being a POkemon, he does level up. He wasn't born at level 100.
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
It's one thing to destroy things psychically, metwo did it all the time. Btu do you think Cell could psychically move a large lake the size of a small ocean and put it underground without even touching the lake bed? i don't think so. Comparing the moving abilities of Cell to Mewtwo is like comapring the current of a stream to a river.
And Gohan was stronger than Goku at the time, so of course he beat Cell instead of Goku.
And dont' you think Mewtwo is constantly improving too? Being a POkemon, he does level up. He wasn't born at level 100.
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Cell didn't destroy things. He cut apart the blocks himself and molded the arena himself. Mewtwo's powers almost match his... In fact... Gohan(for that moment) was only a tiny bit stronger than his father. Because we saw in earlier attempts, that Goku was very close to defeating him.
Gohan(at that time) is no match for our current Goku. Now Goku could easily kill Cell.

About the level thing. It doesent hold that well for you. Mewtwo was born at level 70.

Goku was born at level one. Goku's potential growth is far greater than Mewtwo's.
 
Actually I think Mewtwo was born at lvl 5, and grew form there. After all, just because in the Unknown Dungeon it's lvl 70 it doesn't mean it was always that way.
 
Mullet said:
Cell cannot die for he is already dead moveing a whole chunk of land is much eaiser than moving a small portion of land to make an arena, there also are no levels in DBZ.
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Cell is not dead.

Cutting apart hard Earth and perfectly assembling an arena is not easier than moving a portion of water.

And he was the one who brought up the level factor, not me.
 
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