Mewtwo vs. Goku

[Pogiforce-14]

You're talking about goku liek he's a pokemon now. And goku had been growing for three generations now, so his potential for growth has pretty mcuh run out. ANd this is teh movie mewtwo we're taling about, not the unknown cave mewtwo that most peopel can beat. And any way, metwo wasn't born in that cave, so who's to say he was born at 70?

Level marks the pokemon's experience. Becauses he was jsut born , he was merely level 1, and yet capable of blowing up a lab and killing everyone in it. He's been steadily leveling up since then. He even told Giovanni,a nd i quote " I warn you my powers are far stronger than when we first met." Judging by teh time between the movies, I think that would puthim around level 50. so that makes him only half his potential strength.

 

[Mullet]

No matter what you say Cell is dead Gohan killed him he was decinigrated!

You were the one that said Goku stared growing at level one not Poji.

 

[Skrin]

Ugh, like I and others said, goku would win. Here's one thing:



Whose 2 say mewtwo wasn't also altered in that he started out at a high level??XD but anyways, look at it this way: Goku has a bunch of options, while mewtwo has just about Zero.XD Look:


Goku:

Kaioken
Spirit bomb
Kamehameha
Super Kamehameha
SS1
SS2
SS3
SS4
Vegito
Gotgeta


Mewtwo:
Weak barrier
Psychic powers that just match Cell's.



Now, I think the answer is clear who'd win.XD

 

[Pogiforce-14]

Ugh, like I and others said, goku would win. Here's one thing:



Whose 2 say mewtwo wasn't also altered in that he started out at a high level??XD but anyways, look at it this way: Goku has a bunch of options, while mewtwo has just about Zero.XD Look:


Goku:

Kaioken
Spirit bomb
Kamehameha
Super Kamehameha
SS1
SS2
SS3
SS4
Vegito
Gotgeta


Mewtwo:
Weak barrier
Psychic powers that just match Cell's.



Now, I think the answer is clear who'd win.XD

And more say mewtwo would win.

Goku's instant transmission = Mewtwo's teleport
Kaoken = psyche up
kamehameha= psychic
spirit bomb= shadow ball
super kameha me ha= something only Gohan can do.

SSj1-4= mewtwo powering up.
Vegito and Gogeta= Requires Vegeta toperform and therefore doesn't coutn in this fight.

And as I said, mlevelrefers to experience. You aren't born with experience, although they are in the video game. Experience is somethign you earn, not born with.

 

[Skrin]

BWAHAHAHA!!

You ACTUALLY compare those attacks 2 each other??


Spirit bombs way stronger than a stupid little shadow ball



Teleport takes about a fraction of a second to activate, more than enough time to instant transmission and beat the heck out of whoever tryed that.



Kamehameha could plow right through a psychic attack, or at least the attacks would neutralize each other.XD



And you actually think Mewtwo would be able 2 be powered up 2 equal the power level of SS4 goku????


Goku wins, hands down.XD


Mewtwo would have a slim chance of winning, however, if Chibi Goku fought him, and that's the one from GT. However, he'd probably be able to beat the old-school Chibi Goku.XD

 

[Brittany]

You musn't forget about Goku's insane power and speed either! That makes him the victor hands down.

 

[Makoto]

hmmmm........ the classic battle, brain vs. brawn, to the extreme..... after thinking about it for a while, i came up with this:

psychic powers need the mind, right? well even mewtwo has a reaction time to stuff, yet even though goku has one too, it's like a thousandth of a second, meaning goku could punch mewtwo silly before he even had a chance to decide what attack to do....and once mewtwo was hurt enough, if it was too bad then mewtwo couldn't concentrate hard enough to use recover(he'd be preoccupied with the immense pain).... then on, the battle would be easy for goku.... unless mewtwo DID somehow manage to use recover....

 

[Pogiforce-14]

i can't belive how wrong you are. Mewtwo had been in extreme pain before, if youv'e seen teh cpature device giovanni used onhim. Yet Mewtwo still used his powers to overwhelm teh device and break free. Shadowball can be compared to spirit bomb, because mewtwo is uber and could create a shadow ball to destroy a great deal of the planet if he wished. Also because it's in his mind, it's instantaneous, faster than goku could ever move. That is also why his teleport is faster than instant transmission, because all he has to do is think it and it's in an instant. Goku has to put two fingers to his head before he can teleport anywhere.
Mewtwo has an incredibly developed and speedy mind, and can easily put up a barrier before goku could even think of doing anything.

 

[Brittany]

i can't belive how wrong you are. Mewtwo had been in extreme pain before, if youv'e seen teh cpature device giovanni used onhim. Yet Mewtwo still used his powers to overwhelm teh device and break free. Shadowball can be compared to spirit bomb, because mewtwo is uber and could create a shadow ball to destroy a great deal of the planet if he wished. Also because it's in his mind, it's instantaneous, faster than goku could ever move. That is also why his teleport is faster than instant transmission, because all he has to do is think it and it's in an instant. Goku has to put two fingers to his head before he can teleport anywhere.
Mewtwo has an incredibly developed and speedy mind, and can easily put up a barrier before goku could even think of doing anything.

all of that is speculation, you don't have anything to back what you just said
*ignores*

 

[Ryoutarou]

Ok, I'm a uber anime fan but even I know that this is anime, most anime's dont apply logic especially these two...

 

[Pogiforce-14]

all of that is speculation, you don't have anything to back what you just said
*ignores*

But it's all right there, why Teleport is faster than Instant Transmission, why Mewtwo's powers would be faster, why pain wouldn't disable him, and all that good stuff. It seems to me your just trying to deny the good reasoning nehind why mewtwo would be better, as you keep calling it lies and false hoods when we give plenty of reasons as to why. :\

 

[Brittany]

But it's all right there, why Teleport is faster than Instant Transmission, why Mewtwo's powers would be faster, why pain wouldn't disable him, and all that good stuff. It seems to me your just trying to deny the good reasoning nehind why mewtwo would be better, as you keep calling it lies and false hoods when we give plenty of reasons as to why. :\

You didn't give reasons, you gave opinions. No backed information. For all we know, you could be lying with every statement you made because there is nothing to prove that what you said is valid.

 

[Pogiforce-14]

You didn't give reasons, you gave opinions. No backed information. For all we know, you could be lying with every statement you made because there is nothing to prove that what you said is valid.

they are reasons. For example, why Teleport is faster tahn instant transmission. Teleport comes straight fomr teh mind, while for the instant transmission starts out as a thought process from teh mind that allows teh hand to move tothe forehead, then he msut concentrate on where he wants to go. mewtwo's process of doing it is obviously shorter, and since he ahd teh higher developed mind, it's much faster for him to perform. And teh same goes for why mewtwo can put up a barrier faster than goku can attack. teh nerve impulse msut to to teh body, adn as fast as goku moves, it still requires time. mewtwo's barrier, since it's of psychic power, would go up the very instant the nerve impulse is made. Again, making it faster tha goku. All in all as long as Mewtwo is using psychic abilities instead od physical ones, he can out perform Goku easily.

 

[Ryoutarou]

they are reasons. For example, why Teleport is faster tahn instant transmission. Teleport comes straight fomr teh mind, while for the instant transmission starts out as a thought process from teh mind that allows teh hand to move tothe forehead, then he msut concentrate on where he wants to go. mewtwo's process of doing it is obviously shorter, and since he ahd teh higher developed mind, it's much faster for him to perform. And teh same goes for why mewtwo can put up a barrier faster than goku can attack. teh nerve impulse msut to to teh body, adn as fast as goku moves, it still requires time. mewtwo's barrier, since it's of psychic power, would go up the very instant the nerve impulse is made. Again, making it faster tha goku. All in all as long as Mewtwo is using psychic abilities instead od physical ones, he can out perform Goku easily.

He is right about it. Brittany , you havent been giving good reasons why goku would win either have you?

 

[Pogiforce-14]

Yeah, you ahven't exactly been giving good supportive reasons either, have you LFP? :\

 

[Brittany]

He is right about it. Brittany , you havent been giving good reasons why goku would win either have you?

How many times do I have to say it? He pwns because of fighting power and speed.

The psychic/energy powers pretty much cancel out each other(Goku's are prolly stronger because we have actually seen their destructive force. Mewtwo exerts effort and doesn't seem to cause nearly as much damage)


I have gone into more detail about it, but I'm not going to restate it all. This isn't worth my time right now, there are more important things at the moment.

 

[Pogiforce-14]

That looks more like opinion than anythign I ever posted. :\ Mewtwo hs a great deal of power too, don't you forget. and Psychic powers have been known to do more than jsut destroy things,giving him a wider variety of thigns to do to goku rather than vice versa. And the reason why mewtwo doesn't act all violent is because he isn't fighting someone that requires that much energy, and frankly doesn't need to exert himself. Besides, Mewtwo doesn't exactly want to destroy his own base, does he? :P That is the only reason why mewtwo doesn't show his true power. Ihad already told you before, it was obvious by his body language he wasn't really trying.

 

[Brittany]

That looks more like opinion than anythign I ever posted. :\ Mewtwo hs a great deal of power too, don't you forget. and Psychic powers have been known to do more than jsut destroy things,giving him a wider variety of thigns to do to goku rather than vice versa. And the reason why mewtwo doesn't act all violent is because he isn't fighting someone that requires that much energy, and frankly doesn't need to exert himself. Besides, Mewtwo doesn't exactly want to destroy his own base, does he? :P That is the only reason why mewtwo doesn't show his true power. Ihad already told you before, it was obvious by his body language he wasn't really trying.

What part of that was opinoin?

The only thing I said was that Psychic/energy powers pretty much cancel eachother out.

 

[Pogiforce-14]

And basically what I'msaying is that being it's posychic energy, it doesn't ahve to take a physical form and can still bypass Goku's attacks and go straigh to him.

 

[Brittany]

And basically what I'msaying is that being it's posychic energy, it doesn't ahve to take a physical form and can still bypass Goku's attacks and go straigh to him.

No it can't. Psychic attacks take physical form. If they didn't, then Mewtwo would just be attacking Goku's mind, which doesen't matter, because, Goku's strength for this fight lies within his strength and speed.